mll Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, deus.ex.makina said: Boeser, Dickinson and a 2nd for Fiala Boeser for Fiala straight up is not equal. Fiala > Boeser imho. Boeser + 2nd for Fiala is a bit too much. so Boeser + Dickinson as a dump and 2nd as a sweetener for Fiala could work ? Boeser could play in front of his familiy and friends. Doesn't really make sense for the Wild and it's not realistic cap wise. Their dead cap following the Parise/Suter buyouts increase by 8M to reach 13M next season and will stay on the books for another 2 seasons after that at 15M. There's definitely no spot or cap space for Dickinson. If they had the cap space they would just retain Fiala. He has a lower qualifying offer and has been the more productive player while so often getting the short shrift in terms of linemates. His C all season has been journeyman Gaudreau (was a 13th F for Pittsburgh last season). They've finally got him a talented linemate this January in Boldy and their chemistry has been something else. Guerin was asked and mocked the idea of going after local players. He even complained about a country club atmosphere when he took over where he felt some players wanted to be in Minnesota for family reasons over hockey reasons. Russo adds that ownership couldn't care less and isn't even from Minnesota. Their fan favourites have been from all over the world. Edited February 23, 2022 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, deus.ex.makina said: Boeser, Dickinson and a 2nd for Fiala Boeser for Fiala straight up is not equal. Fiala > Boeser imho. Boeser + 2nd for Fiala is a bit too much. so Boeser + Dickinson as a dump and 2nd as a sweetener for Fiala could work ? Boeser could play in front of his familiy and friends. But why would minny trade Fiala? Hes a damn good player with even more upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RWJC Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Lets hope this translates into a 6x6 contract 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Easy to say, but he has had the chance to put ink to paper on a contract extension for a long time now and hasn’t chosen to. He could end trade rumours immediately by signing a contract that makes him too good of a deal to trade. If he wants to maximize his earnings, that is fair too… it is just his choice to have to deal with the trade chatter and possibility of moving on. It is a little annoying when players seem to suggest this is all external and out of their control. Really it is only Garland who can even act a little aggrieved. He just signed a contract and is playing at a level that makes it a good deal. If he gets traded that is just because of a change in management that he had no control over. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Provost said: Easy to say, but he has had the chance to put ink to paper on a contract extension for a long time now and hasn’t chosen to. I hear what you're saying - there could've been an opportunity to figure out something for an extension; but at the same time I'm not worried since many GM's around the league have stated they're not making moves (including re-signing guys) like they used to because everything about the cap during the COVID era is so unpredictable, and this club has been in a 'transitional' stage for several months now (even if the actual date of JB's firing was later there's no way a BB extension was first and foremost on JB's mind when things were really bad there for several months) - there likely wouldn't have been any 'big' signings/trades/extensions during that period anyway. I'm quite convinced, with the recent media comments from JR, that Boeser's days as a Canuck are numbered - moving him maximizes a return (he's still regarded as a very good scorer, he's young, the right team could easily offer him a new lengthy contract), addresses the 'cap flexibility' that JR keeps mentioning, and allows Allvin to address the 'speed' issue on the forward group to an extent. To me, despite what's being said on these forums, it's 50/50 who will be moved first - Miller or Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Provost said: Easy to say, but he has had the chance to put ink to paper on a contract extension for a long time now and hasn’t chosen to. He could end trade rumours immediately by signing a contract that makes him too good of a deal to trade. If he wants to maximize his earnings, that is fair too… it is just his choice to have to deal with the trade chatter and possibility of moving on. It is a little annoying when players seem to suggest this is all external and out of their control. Really it is only Garland who can even act a little aggrieved. He just signed a contract and is playing at a level that makes it a good deal. If he gets traded that is just because of a change in management that he had no control over. Has JR even offered a contract to Boeser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, BPA said: Has JR even offered a contract to Boeser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Saw a rumor Wild want hoglander judd was key to him being drafted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, combover said: Saw a rumor Wild want hoglander judd was key to him being drafted . from the province? Hoglander for calen Addison, please, pretty please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: from the province? Hoglander for calen Addison, please, pretty please It was In The province https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/two-trade-possibilities-brock-boeser-nils-hoglander/wcm/eae43ec6-a3e1-4bef-97de-0469a3f93f04/amp/ addison was the name but it might be more of a story than a rumor Edited February 24, 2022 by combover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: from the province? Hoglander for calen Addison, please, pretty please why do we want a 5'10 D in return? Undersized imo and would be silly to give up on a skilled player like Hoglander already, would be like when we traded McCann and now he is gonna be a near 30G scorer in Seattle this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: why do we want a 5'10 D in return? Undersized imo and would be silly to give up on a skilled player like Hoglander already, would be like when we traded McCann and now he is gonna be a near 30G scorer in Seattle this season We don’t need more small puck movers we need big physical two way D men. Would make no sense but he’s a Pens pick so maybe Rutherford values him higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, combover said: It was In The province https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/two-trade-possibilities-brock-boeser-nils-hoglander/wcm/eae43ec6-a3e1-4bef-97de-0469a3f93f04/amp/ addison was the name but it might be more of a story than a rumor Yes. How the logic goes, as far as I can tell, is that Brackett helped draft Hoglander and Allvin/Rutherford drafted Addison, so that must mean that they want to trade them for each other. Faulty logic aside...........I really hope it's true!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: why do we want a 5'10 D in return? Undersized imo and would be silly to give up on a skilled player like Hoglander already, would be like when we traded McCann and now he is gonna be a near 30G scorer in Seattle this season McCann was selected by the Vancouver Canucks in the first round (24th overall) of the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, McCann has previously played for the Canucks, Florida Panthers and Pittsburgh Penguins. Was also property of the Toronto Maple Leafs and then picked in expansion by the Seattle Kraken. No offense meant but can we please get over this guy. it’s been 7 years and we weren’t the only team that’s passed on him. he’s almost 26, having a great season and kudos to him, but not many prospects are held onto that long in the same organization to prove they are a top 6 guy in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, DeNiro said: We don’t need more small puck movers we need big physical two way D men. Would make no sense but he’s a Pens pick so maybe Rutherford values him higher. He's on the small side, but apparently gritty and as good defensively as he is offensively. I think he would be a good addition, but I agree they have to keep a few D with size around too (Oh where did you go, Nikita Tryamkin....)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Canucks Curse said: from the province? Hoglander for calen Addison, please, pretty please We arent trading Hoglander. He has so much more upside its ridiculous. Addison would be excellent though, but would rather trade Boeser for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 hours ago, RWJC said: Lets hope this translates into a 6x6 contract You really want to sign the slowest forward in the league to 6 yrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: We arent trading Hoglander. He has so much more upside its ridiculous. Addison would be excellent though, but would rather trade Boeser for him. I hope your right about Hogs Love that kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 59 minutes ago, RWJC said: McCann was selected by the Vancouver Canucks in the first round (24th overall) of the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, McCann has previously played for the Canucks, Florida Panthers and Pittsburgh Penguins. Was also property of the Toronto Maple Leafs and then picked in expansion by the Seattle Kraken. No offense meant but can we please get over this guy. it’s been 7 years and we weren’t the only team that’s passed on him. he’s almost 26, having a great season and kudos to him, but not many prospects are held onto that long in the same organization to prove they are a top 6 guy in the NHL. Way to overreact...Guess I can't mention Markstrom and how he was once available for free and he turned into a #1 with Vancouver and now a Vezina candidate with Calgary...but please, cry me a river some more why don't you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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