thundernuts Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, N4ZZY said: hopefully Allvin and management understands that. I’m sure they do. The real question may be - Does Aquaman want to pay the $5 million bonus? Historically, ownership has shown that they are willing to pay, and overpay, in order to try and reach, or go over, the cap ceiling. Given that the Canucks continue to flounder, Covid financial losses, no playoff revenue, that sellouts are a thing of the past, his divorce and abuse allegations, etc., perhaps he would rather just ditch the contract instead of paying that bonus in the hopes of getting an extra 3rd round draft pick (or whatever the extra return may be). In the end, it may be the only option to trade Myers, but if a trade comes along that allows the Canucks to deal him prior to the bonus payout, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled the trigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, thundernuts said: I’m sure they do. The real question may be - Does Aquaman want to pay the $5 million bonus? Historically, ownership has shown that they are willing to pay, and overpay, in order to try and reach, or go over, the cap ceiling. Given that the Canucks continue to flounder, Covid financial losses, no playoff revenue, that sellouts are a thing of the past, his divorce and abuse allegations, etc., perhaps he would rather just ditch the contract instead of paying that bonus in the hopes of getting an extra 3rd round draft pick (or whatever the extra return may be). In the end, it may be the only option to trade Myers, but if a trade comes along that allows the Canucks to deal him prior to the bonus payout, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled the trigger. Fingers crossed our owner is (now) keeping his snout out of hockey ops. If he is directing JR to add sugar to Myers to move him in order to save the bonus money, then we are doomed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulCap Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 10 hours ago, combover said: Toronto - hey so what about Myers vancouver - sold, he’s on the plane. Click. can we interest you in oel too? 2 for 1 deal Myers/oel gone would be addition by subtraction. They are both getting worse, are bottom d at best and i'd rather see abby guys get a real shot to develop. Brisbois looked steady earlier this season and they could evaluate others like juulsen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, Alflives said: Fingers crossed our owner is (now) keeping his snout out of hockey ops. If he is directing JR to add sugar to Myers to move him in order to save the bonus money, then we are doomed. Guess we do have that extra 1st round pick... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, T.Demko said: Guess we do have that extra 1st round pick... If they use that extra first round pick as fodder to lose a contract, I'm out as a fan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, rekker said: If they use that extra first round pick as fodder to lose a contract, I'm out as a fan. It was nice knowing you my man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, T.Demko said: It was nice knowing you my man I'm rioting on the way out, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, rekker said: If they use that extra first round pick as fodder to lose a contract, I'm out as a fan. What if that first was used as the sugar to dumperoo OEL? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: What if that first was used as the sugar to dumperoo OEL? Nope. Can't go there. I want my dessert at the end of this season. I want two picks on draft day to look forward to. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Fingers crossed our owner is (now) keeping his snout out of hockey ops. If he is directing JR to add sugar to Myers to move him in order to save the bonus money, then we are doomed. Spoiler alert: he’s isn’t keeping his snout out of hockey ops, and never will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, rekker said: Nope. Can't go there. I want my dessert at the end of this season. I want two picks on draft day to look forward to. I prefer 3! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, kodos said: Spoiler alert: he’s isn’t keeping his snout out of hockey ops, and never will. He did allow the return for Bo to be futures. He might be listening (now) to JR, especially after his not allowing the coaching change to happen last summer and the mess that caused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Alflives said: What if that first was used as the sugar to dumperoo OEL? Even if we freed up his cap, we don't have anyone to replace him, unless Wolanin can make the jump. We could go the UFA route, but we might end up with another OEL. They better save the Isle 1st or fans may actually riot, myself included. We're probably going to have to ride out OELs contract, which isn't the worst one to have to do that with. I still have hope for a fairly large resurgence from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: What if that first was used as the sugar to dumperoo OEL? I'd personally rather they stop trying to buy their way out of mistakes and just let it ride. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, OldFaithfulCap said: can we interest you in oel too? 2 for 1 deal Myers/oel gone would be addition by subtraction. They are both getting worse, are bottom d at best and i'd rather see abby guys get a real shot to develop. Brisbois looked steady earlier this season and they could evaluate others like juulsen. Agreed we should be in full liquidation mode. Play the youth see what we have and build from there. losing now means winning in the future winning now means losing for the future. the current plan and roster is a proven failure and it will only continue to fail. would an epic victory to move out Myers OEL miller garland boeser schenn and more load up on picks and prospects further more grab a few bad contracts and more picks. i remember when Sweeney sold off in Boston everyone thought he was nuts loading up on picks mean while dim jim was adding 30 year old ufas and trading picks… we now know who was nuts. we could do what Boston did that year he have the pieces to move and seems to have worked out pretty good for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, T.Demko said: Guess we do have that extra 1st round pick... Our current management group isn't that stupid. (I hope). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, rekker said: I'm rioting on the way out, lol. Give em hell! Also please feel free to bring the 8 million dollar man with you on the way out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, steviewonder20 said: Our current management group isn't that stupid. (I hope). Hope is a dangerous thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Alflives said: What if that first was used as the sugar to dumperoo OEL? Alf, hypothetical question. Would you be ok to use our 2 1sts to dumparoo bonzai Myers, OEL and Garland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, combover said: Agreed we should be in full liquidation mode. Play the youth see what we have and build from there. losing now means winning in the future winning now means losing for the future. the current plan and roster is a proven failure and it will only continue to fail. would an epic victory to move out Myers OEL miller garland boeser schenn and more load up on picks and prospects further more grab a few bad contracts and more picks. i remember when Sweeney sold off in Boston everyone thought he was nuts loading up on picks mean while dim jim was adding 30 year old ufas and trading picks… we now know who was nuts. we could do what Boston did that year he have the pieces to move and seems to have worked out pretty good for them. Not liquidation mode specifically, we had a lot of talent, but we need to redistribute our lineup. We don't have the right mix here, but we do have enough core talent to compete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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