-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EB43 Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2022 For Chychrun 1 for 1. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Guess Canucks will be sending draft picks + Ferland for the ever popular Future Considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Why would this make sense? Doesn't he have real value on LTIR? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I think they've been trying to move that salary/cap hit since Ferland stopped playing. JB and JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, gurn said: I think they've been trying to move that salary/cap hit since Ferland stopped playing. JB and JR. sure but it can't be in isolation, someone else off the roster would have to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 What does this accomplish for us? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: What does this accomplish for us? Potentially gets us out of LTIR where you can possibly bank cap space and/or use that cap space to pay bonuses so you don't carry them over to next year. As a bonus, it's actually helpful (and with only this year left of commitment/risk) to any teams already planning on operating in LTIR (Vegas?). 3 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, AngryElf said: Why would this make sense? Doesn't he have real value on LTIR? No Edited October 3, 2022 by Biff Tannen Was going to explain why, but aGENT already did 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said: No It does to a team already planning on operating in LTIR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 This is no ordinary contract... it was uninsurable when JB signed it so it's not just a tiny sum. It's $2,750,000 in real cash and 3.5 million in cap. Tough sell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, aGENT said: It does to a team already planning on operating in LTIR. I get there are some clever workarounds but I think it's a stretch to say it has value. No one is going to pay to take the contract, it just might not cost quite so much to get rid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Hello Arizona! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, aGENT said: Potentially gets us out of LTIR where you can possibly bank cap space and/or use that cap space to pay bonuses so you don't carry them over to next year. As a bonus, it's actually helpful (and with only this year left of commitment/risk) to any teams already planning on operating in LTIR (Vegas?). sure but who goes with him? even if someone wants Ferland we then need to shed a roster player to be cap complaint don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Canuck You said: Hello Arizona! Not insured. They won't be interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, aGENT said: Potentially gets us out of LTIR where you can possibly bank cap space and/or use that cap space to pay bonuses so you don't carry them over to next year. As a bonus, it's actually helpful (and with only this year left of commitment/risk) to any teams already planning on operating in LTIR (Vegas?). Are we not over the cap as it stands though? Wouldn't trading his contract indicate that we need to move other cap out as well? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, JM_ said: sure but who goes with him? even if someone wants Ferland we then need to shed a roster player to be cap complaint don't we? Why would we need to shed a player? As it is Ferland's contract is on the cap but our cap is increased by that amount, though it's possible I'm missing something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, JM_ said: sure but who goes with him? even if someone wants Ferland we then need to shed a roster player to be cap complaint don't we? Nope, we're cap compliant with him on the roster. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: This is one of those situations where there should be an insurance policy that allows the player to continue to be paid for a career-ending injury (in fact, all players signing league contracts should have this kind of policy as a condition of signing), and where a team can exit the contract with no penalty or cap consequence because the player retires permanently from play. Having it stuck on the team's cap and using fancy accounting methods to allow other players to be "replacements" (even though in many cases, the "replacements" play different positions) is meaningless. Allowing teams to trade contracts of players that are not going to play another game in the league also makes the league a complete joke. And sports media should stop with speculation and innuendo and stick to facts. This speculation crap is stupid, makes people stupid, and makes the league look stupid. (though not like the league is doing itself any favours either) it's like I've said all along... any player that goes on LTIR for more than 1 season should be automatically 'retired' . The trading of 'contracts' of players that have no intention of returning to play needs to be stopped. ie: Vegas has about $15 mill in potential LTIR. You can't explain this any other way than cap-circumvention. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Are we not over the cap as it stands though? Wouldn't trading his contract indicate that we need to move other cap out as well? Just now, aGENT said: Nope, we're cap compliant with him on the roster. Ergo, if we move his contract, his replacement will still be cap compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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