The Lock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They were also able to free up a roster spot and get him off the team. But, like I said, Redden was worse than OEL. At least OEL's still serviceable in the NHL Sorry, but out of all of the possible moves we could do, I HOPE this is not the one. Not yet anyway. I don't want him haunting us until the 2030's. I think it would be one of the biggest mistakes we could make. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 I really wish people would come to grips with OEL. He’s not getting bought out and buying him out now is beyond stupid. Just stop it. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: I really wish people would come to grips with OEL. He’s not getting bought out and buying him out now is beyond stupid. Just stop it. Yeah I don't get it either. It'd literally be a worse move than anything Benning ever did, and that's saying something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I really wish people would come to grips with OEL. He’s not getting bought out and buying him out now is beyond stupid. Just stop it. Noted and saved for future reference. Edit: could this be someone’s sig in the future? Edited March 9, 2023 by Elias Pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Noted and saved for future reference. Edit: could this be someone’s sig in the future? If they do it doesn’t change the fact that doing it is absolutely moronic. They should also be fired on the spot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Noted and saved for future reference. Edit: could this be someone’s sig in the future? If you want the rest of the fanbase to ridicule you for having the stupidest sig on the forum, sure. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Lock said: Yeah I don't get it either. It'd literally be a worse move than anything Benning ever did, and that's saying something. Let's not go nuts. Benning gave up a 9th overall for the guy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Lock said: Yeah I don't get it either. It'd literally be a worse move than anything Benning ever did, and that's saying something. Isn’t Benning the one who traded for him in the first place? And gave up a 9th overall pick plus a 2nd round pick to get him? Plus added Garland to the deal and added another $5 million to the cap on top? You think buying out OEL and trying to get out of a massive mistake is worse than the original mistake itself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Isn’t Benning the one who traded for him in the first place? And gave up a 9th overall pick plus a 2nd round pick to get him? Plus added Garland to the deal and added another $5 million to the cap on top? You think buying out OEL and trying to get out of a massive mistake is worse than the original mistake itself? Yes I think this would be worse than that. We don't even get a Garland back in the buyout and we just keep pushing yet more cap down the road and this time without even an asset for that caphit. I'm even a little alarmed you don't see the problem with this buyout if I'm being honest. Edited March 9, 2023 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Lock said: Yes I think this would be worse than that. We don't even get a Garland back in the buyout and we just keep pushing yet more cap down the road and this time without even an asset for that caphit. I'm even a little alarmed you don't see the problem with this if I'm being perfectly honest. If you actually think that buying out OEL with basically a $2 million cap hit is worse than throwing away a 9th overall pick plus a 2nd round pick plus on top of that having Garland’s $5 million cap hit on the books for another 3 years then I don’t know what to tell you. I’m a little concerned that you don’t see the problem with that. Like seriously, you should give it some more thought. A 9th overall pick literally just thrown away. And people are pissed that we traded a mid first round pick and a 2nd for a legit 25 year old RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If you actually think that buying out OEL with basically a $2 million cap hit is worse than throwing away a 9th overall pick plus a 2nd round pick plus on top of that having Garland’s $5 million cap hit on the books for another 3 years then I don’t know what to tell you. I’m a little concerned that you don’t see the problem with that. Like seriously, you should give it some more thought. A 9th overall pick literally just thrown away. And people are pissed that we traded a mid first round pick and a 2nd for a legit 25 year old RHD. First of all it's $2.5mil until 2031. Second of all, Garland's tradable. I've already given it a lot of thought which is what led me to my stance in the 1st place. You mentioning Garland suddenly is nothing more than putting words in my mouth as I DON'T think we'd keep Garland that long. He's the more likely candidate to be gone, likely through trade, compared with OEL. Either Garland or Boeser or someone else. Trading players are far better options than just buying them out. Heck, even paying another team to take him off the books would be better. So, yes. I have thought this through enough to see how stupid of an idea it is to buyout OEL. The number of options, even poor ones, that would still be better than this are numerous. I'm done with this conversation anyway. Have a good evening. Edited March 9, 2023 by The Lock 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Let's not go nuts. Benning gave up a 9th overall for the guy. NY gave up a 9th overall for a bucket of pucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coryberg Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: I would still argue it was an overpayment; perhaps, if the 1st round pick wasn't included, the trade would not had garnered too much criticism. A 50+ point RHD who averages over 22 minutes a game and a 4th round pick for a 2nd? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, HKSR said: It saves Francesco Aquilini $9.6m. It gives us dead cap for 8 years. No, it saves 9.6 million in cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, steviewonder20 said: No, it saves 9.6 million in cap. Wrong. It's Aquilini's money. Not cap. I'm not gonna get into explaining it right now, but you can see the numbers on capfriendly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, coryberg said: A 50+ point RHD who averages over 22 minutes a game and a 4th round pick for a 2nd? Not just my opinion and those stats are with the Redwings, let's see if he clicks - remember Schmidt ? What happened to the 1st round pick that also went to the Redwings ? I was getting these types of response from posters like you when OEL was just acquired or when Myers was signed - so nothing new. Lol lol Making up stats, as well ? Cause I don't see a 50+ point season, in the NHL. Too funny ! Edited March 9, 2023 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: Not just my opinion and those stats are with the Redwings, let's see if he clicks - remember Schmidt ? What happened to the 1st round pick that also went to the Redwings ? I was getting these types of response from posters like you when OEL was just acquired or when Myers was signed - so nothing new. Lol lol Making up stats, as well ? Cause I don't see a 50+ point season, in the NHL. Too funny ! On pace for 51 points in 82 games this season. He’s not going to come here and forget to put up points. Whether or not he’s a fit will remain to be seen for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: What happened to the 1st round pick that also went to the Redwings ? I was responding to your post. And I quote... " I REALLY hope Hronek becomes a solid 2nd pairing D, even after he signs his retirement deal. But I would still argue it was an overpayment; perhaps, if the 1st round pick wasn't included, the trade would not had garnered too much criticism." So on one hand you say it wouldn't garner criticism if it didn't include the 1st round pick. But then when I point out how ridiculously lopsided that trade would be you ask what happened to the 1st round pick? 2 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: Making up stats, as well ? Cause I don't see a 50+ point season, in the NHL. Too funny ! Hronek has 38 points in 60 games this season. That's a .63 point percentage, good for 52 points over 82 games. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 So when is he ready? Teh team is actually looking decent might as well start a wining cuctlure and go for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, coryberg said: I was responding to your post. And I quote... " I REALLY hope Hronek becomes a solid 2nd pairing D, even after he signs his retirement deal. But I would still argue it was an overpayment; perhaps, if the 1st round pick wasn't included, the trade would not had garnered too much criticism." So on one hand you say it wouldn't garner criticism if it didn't include the 1st round pick. But then when I point out how ridiculously lopsided that trade would be you ask what happened to the 1st round pick? Hronek has 38 points in 60 games this season. That's a .63 point percentage, good for 52 points over 82 games. It is an overpayment. It should've been either a 1st rounder or a 2nd, but not both. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now