Seannnp Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 We will not be rebuilding so long as Demko, Hughes and Pettersson remain the core. So begins the retool!! Any attempt at trading for Hanifin or Weegar starts with a 1st round pick. Calgary will not be giving either of them away for less than market value. If they decide to rebuild as early as next season, which in my opinion, is something they should strongly consider. Allows them to move Huberdeau and others with significant retention knowing well they arent trying to ice a competitive team for the next 5-7 years and wont necessarily be spending to the cap. Calgary could potentially move Tanev, Markstrom, Huberdeau, Weegar, Hanifin, Lindholm and Kadri for a massive haul of futures. Ideal trade 2024 off season LOL: Hanifin (likely signs similar to a Hronek deal 6 -7m per) FOR 1st in 2024, Hoglander, Klimovich, Garland (they can flip at deadline) Weegar (retention 750k = 5.5m) = 2nd in 2025, 1st in 2026, Karlsson (similar to the Hronek trade) Buyout OEL Trade Myers, Poolman, Pearson Sign Livingstone 2025 Season: Kuz Petey Mikhayev Beauvillier Miller Boeser Kravstov Raty Podkolzin McDo Aman Joshua Hughes Weegar Hanifin Hronek Wolanin Livingstone Demko Silovs Too much? Too little? I shouldnt smoke so much Honey Boba and Benny Blunto's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Seannnp said: We will not be rebuilding so long as Demko, Hughes and Pettersson remain the core. So begins the retool!! Any attempt at trading for Hanifin or Weegar starts with a 1st round pick. Calgary will not be giving either of them away for less than market value. If they decide to rebuild as early as next season, which in my opinion, is something they should strongly consider. Allows them to move Huberdeau and others with significant retention knowing well they arent trying to ice a competitive team for the next 5-7 years and wont necessarily be spending to the cap. Calgary could potentially move Tanev, Markstrom, Huberdeau, Weegar, Hanifin, Lindholm and Kadri for a massive haul of futures. Ideal trade 2024 off season LOL: Hanifin (likely signs similar to a Hronek deal 6 -7m per) FOR 1st in 2024, Hoglander, Klimovich, Garland (they can flip at deadline) Weegar (retention 750k = 5.5m) = 2nd in 2025, 1st in 2026, Karlsson (similar to the Hronek trade) Buyout OEL Trade Myers, Poolman, Pearson Sign Livingstone 2025 Season: Kuz Petey Mikhayev Beauvillier Miller Boeser Kravstov Raty Podkolzin McDo Aman Joshua Hughes Weegar Hanifin Hronek Wolanin Livingstone Demko Silovs Too much? Too little? I shouldnt smoke so much Honey Boba and Benny Blunto's? Like it a lot but would rather get Tanev back over Weegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Like it a lot but would rather get Tanev back over Weegar. Tanev doesnt really fit in with our core given his age. We want to be able to compete year after year, no? Think Weegar allows us to do that as opposed to Tanev who in two years will be? mid 30's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Seannnp said: Tanev doesnt really fit in with our core given his age. We want to be able to compete year after year, no? Think Weegar allows us to do that as opposed to Tanev who in two years will be? mid 30's? True. Tanev is 33. So four years older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Seannnp said: We will not be rebuilding so long as Demko, Hughes and Pettersson remain the core. So begins the retool!! Any attempt at trading for Hanifin or Weegar starts with a 1st round pick. Calgary will not be giving either of them away for less than market value. If they decide to rebuild as early as next season, which in my opinion, is something they should strongly consider. Allows them to move Huberdeau and others with significant retention knowing well they arent trying to ice a competitive team for the next 5-7 years and wont necessarily be spending to the cap. Calgary could potentially move Tanev, Markstrom, Huberdeau, Weegar, Hanifin, Lindholm and Kadri for a massive haul of futures. Ideal trade 2024 off season LOL: Hanifin (likely signs similar to a Hronek deal 6 -7m per) FOR 1st in 2024, Hoglander, Klimovich, Garland (they can flip at deadline) Weegar (retention 750k = 5.5m) = 2nd in 2025, 1st in 2026, Karlsson (similar to the Hronek trade) Buyout OEL Trade Myers, Poolman, Pearson Sign Livingstone 2025 Season: Kuz Petey Mikhayev Beauvillier Miller Boeser Kravstov Raty Podkolzin McDo Aman Joshua Hughes Weegar Hanifin Hronek Wolanin Livingstone Demko Silovs Too much? Too little? I shouldnt smoke so much Honey Boba and Benny Blunto's? That defense has a lot of talent, but risks being eaten alive in the playoffs. Needs a Burroughs - Schenn as the 3rd pairing, with Julussen or Wolanin as the 7th. Then you have the horses to manage the nastier parts of the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Like it a lot but would rather get Tanev back over Weegar. same boat. if its true that CGY is looking fpr scoring help/interest in Boeser-Id look at a trade involving those 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I doubt Calgary would do it, they might think about it if we offered this years 1st and next years 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Hmm. What's giving you the feeling that Calgary is going to tank next year? I doubt it. I think they're an interesting team that made some risky (but necessary) moves last summer, and they haven't paid off. They are right up against the cap next season. The Flames are a perfect example of a team that needs a re-tool. They have a mature core that isn't old by any means, but it hasn't worked this year. Even if they let Treliving go (which I also doubt), they'll try to get a GM committed to winning now. Which brings us back to the trade floor. Calgary needs to figure out what went wrong and shake things up. Even if we offer up our wingers (any mixture of Garland, Boeser, Höglander) for Hanifin, does that fix their problems? As much as I hate to say it, their biggest issue is Jacob Markström. He's played alright in March, but this season has been a disaster. He was so good last year, so everything is a big question mark for that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I definitely would not make that trade for Hanifin. I want to keep our 1st, plus I want to give the Hog and Klimovich a chance before shipping them off. Sure, you've got to give to get, but I don't think that trade is in our team's best interest. Personally I don't like either deal. Pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) How about Hughes for Calgary's Andersson, Zary Their 2023,2024,2025 1st round picks, and 2023, 2024, 2025 second round picks and most importantly. Cameron Whynot! That way we can tank for years to come! And when folks ask why? We say Whynot! Edited March 17, 2023 by Ghostsof1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Wow, if Calgary goes rebuild, Treliving (and Sutter) will be gone. They've just signed Huberdeau and Weegar to long term contracts. The line up that Treliving assembled looks like a line up to take a run at a cup (with the addition of a rental or 2). I would expect a new coach and maybe a few small moves. Sometimes when a lot of moves are made in a season, it just takes time to gel. Calgary way under performed this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Hmm. What's giving you the feeling that Calgary is going to tank next year? I doubt it. I think they're an interesting team that made some risky (but necessary) moves last summer, and they haven't paid off. They are right up against the cap next season. The Flames are a perfect example of a team that needs a re-tool. They have a mature core that isn't old by any means, but it hasn't worked this year. Even if they let Treliving go (which I also doubt), they'll try to get a GM committed to winning now. Which brings us back to the trade floor. Calgary needs to figure out what went wrong and shake things up. Even if we offer up our wingers (any mixture of Garland, Boeser, Höglander) for Hanifin, does that fix their problems? As much as I hate to say it, their biggest issue is Jacob Markström. He's played alright in March, but this season has been a disaster. He was so good last year, so everything is a big question mark for that team. Yeah I think that Calgary needs to go for it again next year. They're too far in to think about going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Wow, if Calgary goes rebuild, Treliving (and Sutter) will be gone. They've just signed Huberdeau and Weegar to long term contracts. The line up that Treliving assembled looks like a line up to take a run at a cup (with the addition of a rental or 2). I would expect a new coach and maybe a few small moves. Sometimes when a lot of moves are made in a season, it just takes time to gel. Calgary way under performed this year. People thought that you can take the absolute best line in hockey, get rid of it, and replace them by two other great forwards. Goes to show that a line that has chemistry is greater then the sum of it's parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: People thought that you can take the absolute best line in hockey, get rid of it, and replace them by two other great forwards. Goes to show that a line that has chemistry is greater then the sum of it's parts. The funny part of this is that out of the three teams (CGY, CBJ), only one of them really won the day (Florida). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myre Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said: The funny part of this is that out of the three teams (CGY, CBJ), only one of them really won the day (Florida). Really? Arguably all three teams got worse haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, myre said: Really? Arguably all three teams got worse haha Florida definitely improved their core. The Gkames only proved his stupid they are. Huberdough and Weegar are craperolla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Calgary isn’t about to start a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Westcoasting said: Calgary isn’t about to start a rebuild. Thank you for letting us know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Seannnp said: Thank you for letting us know Yeah you didn’t know? GM said as much a couple years back so I can’t see them doing it now can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: Yeah you didn’t know? GM said as much a couple years back so I can’t see them doing it now can you? Lot can change in a couple years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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