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Is there any NHL potential left in Darren Archibald?


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Poll: Is there any NHL potential left in Darren Archibald? (71 member(s) have cast votes)

What will Archibald end up as?

  1. NHL - first liner (1 votes [1.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

  2. NHL second liner (2 votes [2.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  3. NHL - third liner (17 votes [23.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.94%

  4. NHL - fourth liner (28 votes [39.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.44%

  5. AHLer for life (23 votes [32.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.39%

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#1 Southpop45

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:31 AM

so i know he is a bit of an older prospect at 22 but latley he really been playing great for the wolves. once again you have to keep in mind that you just cant teach size. and archibald has size at 6'3'' 210 pounds. currently he has 4 goals in 6 games. what do you guys think?
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:13 AM

I think he will either play top 6 or not make the NHL at all. He's still got a lot of work to do to cut it as top 6.

His skating has improved vastly, but is still not fit for NHL duties. Also not sure if his understanding of the game is on par with the speed of the NHL. The only thing he has going for him is his size and good set of hands for his size, which as you mention, is something you just can't teach.

If he continues to develop his game and he maintains his tough and rough style of play, the gamble may pay off. He has always been a raw project, and he remains a project, albeit much improved version from last year.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:29 AM

He could get a few games in, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a regular.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:38 AM

I don't see top 6 potential but he very well could be a bottom 6 down the road...so long as he keeps up the goals with the wolves.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

At best I'm thinking 4th liner, but somewhere between 4th line/healthy scratch, at worst, AHL 2nd liner.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:51 AM

Burrows didn't play an NHL game until he was 24.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

I predict he will be a Sean Pronger type player and bounce around a bunch of NHL teams as a call up.. Maybe play 5-15 games a year or so, but spend a lot of time in the AHL
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

3rd or 4th line NHL is a safe bet.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:07 PM

bottom six, or an AHL'er.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

He will get a shot. Just depends on what he does with it. He gets goals in the dirty areas and we don't have a lot of guys who are willing to go there and get em. Thats valuable day in day out.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

4th liner of the future maybe?
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

I don't see top 6 potential but he very well could be a bottom 6 down the road...so long as he keeps up the goals with the wolves.


Agreed. He just doesn't have the tools to be a top-6 forward in the NHL and his skating is going to hold him back. I'd say a useful 3rd/4th liner sounds like a fair projection if all goes well.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:20 PM

He had 1 point in 20 AHL games, so if that doesn't make him a long-term project at best I wouldn't know what else to call him; I think his upside would be (and I'd be happy with him as an) offensive 3rd liner/ physical 4th liner in the NHL, and if he develops properly he could also be a strong net presence with his size (if he makes it in the first place)
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

He had 1 point in 20 AHL games, so if that doesn't make him a long-term project at best I wouldn't know what else to call him; I think his upside would be (and I'd be happy with him as an) offensive 3rd liner/ physical 4th liner in the NHL, and if he develops properly he could also be a strong net presence with his size (if he makes it in the first place)


To be fair he was a rookie, and this season he has 4 goals in 6 games. If he can keep scoring and fighting I think he could be a 3rd line player. IMO he has to hit 15-20 goals, hit and fight this season in the AHL or else he will get buried in the ranks.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

Top 3 forward. Put him in either Sedins, he'll be a 20-goal scorer.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

^^ Nice, apparently it doesn't even get you a penalty in the NHL, perfect fit!
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

I say he could be a good third liner. Jannik Hansen and Archibald, if he could keep his play of late up would be a good duo. He's a big, powerful guy, can hit well. Nice hands for big guy too.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:46 AM

At first it looked like he might make it as a 3rd or 4th liner, but things are more grim for him now. I guess he has moved up a league as he was in the ECHL. Now, not only is he in the AHL, he's performing quite well. Maybe if things go well he might get like 10-50 games in his NHL career as a 4th liner/extra forward for toughness.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:51 AM

If arniel ever decides to try Archi-Schroeder-Kass and they work out (which I, and most people agree it should) he may have a very promising career in the NHL.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:08 AM

I haven't seen much of him, but when I look at his penalty minutes it sure doesn't seem like he's 'using' his size. Simplistic analysis yes, but telling.

If you are an average skater with size in the minors, and decent hands, the way you'll make to the NHL and stick are simple.

1. Improve your skating and fitness. Fitness will add speed even without improvement in mechanics so you get a bit of a burst there just from losing body fat, and losing a bit of weight. Ie Kassian (who is actually a strong skater).

2. Continue to develop your defensive game, so that you are not a defensive liability. You are not going to make the NHL as a 1/2nd liner without the skating (over time maybe you earn you way there once you've made it but to start no way, its 4th line and then earn 3rd, but even making 4th is tough), so defense first.

3. Have to play the body night in night out, lay hits, fight not every night but be the guy the team can rely on the 'stand up' to garbage, to instigate once in a while when the team needs a hit/fight to wake up.

So my concerns would be

1. He doesn't look to have 'leaned up'
2. He isn't the next coming of Bertuzzi or Penner so hopefully he works on his defensive game to not be a liability
3. Doesn't seem to be that guy bringing his most useful and valuable asset - size and intimidation. Seems to be trying to be the next Bert, and while that's important, if you remember, even Bert in his early days was throwing big hits and fighting - used his biggest asset to his advantage, size, which earned him more minutes and then the ability to show his offensive talents..

He still has alot of work to do...

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

4 goals in 6 ahl games lately are not bad ..i think he needs some time but he could be a good addition in 1 or 2 years

he should get a chance imo
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:44 AM

Top 3 forward. Put him in either Sedins, he'll be a 20-goal scorer.


Anyone playing with the Sedins can be a 20 goal scorer.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:31 PM

Though 4G in 6 games in the AHL this year is a good showing, most of one year in the ECHL and <30 games in the AHL spread over the past 10 months doesn't seem like enough of a sample size to make a call on his NHL potential. Hopefully he has the tools to become a legitimate NHLer, but I'd say he's a long shot to crack an NHL roster as a fourth liner. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to have the drive and determination of an Alex Burrows and provides the Canucks with a player with size, grit and skill.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

Anyone playing with the Sedins can be a 20 goal scorer.

Anyone playing with the Sedins can be a 20 goal scorer.


I believe that was his point.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

He's been a nice net presence latley, but even a couple weeks ago I'd have probably said that he has little to no chance of being an NHL regular. If he can come around (as many players in their early 20s can) and show some consistency on the score sheet, while playing a physical game, then he's got something to work with. His last 2 goals were garbage goals, but every team needs a player to stand in front of the net to creat havoc and bang in rebounds. I think that Kassian eventually will be that kind of player, but he's got to stop trying to go end to end and score highlight reel goals, and just simplify... Which is whats giving Archibald his current success.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

I think his maximum potential is an NHL 4th liner. He'll probable end up being an AHL/NHL tweener/call-up player.
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