qwijibo Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You people are seriously over reacting here. You're mistaking the number they've submitted to the arbitrator with the numbers they're negotiating with for a long term deal. First off, this will likely never get to arbitration, but if it does it follows the script of the team coming in low and the player coming in high. Second, remember this is for one year only. The team smartly elected a 1 year deal so Subban will still be an RFA if it does go to arbitration. Bergevin and Subban's agent are working on a long term deal. If I had to guess I'd say it gets signed tomorrow and it'll be 8 years with a cap hit of 8-8.5 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Moody Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It's insane that we live in a world where 5.25 million dollars a year is considered an "insult" These are the same people that complain about lockouts. Just because one GM decides to give a Letang 7 million, doesn't mean another should. That's how lockouts happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Just an example of the process. With Eller he was looking for $3.1M on a 1 year deal from the arbitrator, Montreal submited an offer of $1.65M to the arbitrator. Despite those numbers they agreed on a 4 year deal with an AVV of 3.5M Moral of the story, the offer submitted to the arbitrator is meaningless in the actual negotiation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 That's just an insult to PK. If I were him I'd command even more if that actually was offered (although more money for PK won't help with depth). Karlsson and Letang are comparable contracts. Dynamic defenders who aren't elite defensively like Keith, Weber, Suter, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Habs playing a stupidly dangerous game dicking around one of the league's best defensemen. That offer is insulting, honestly. This will definitely sit in the back of P.K.'s mind when he goes to arbitration and when he decides to sign (or not sign) his next contract and when he inevitably goes to UFA status (at least it's looking like it will go that way). I really don't understand Bergevin's line of reasoning. What is he trying to accomplish? Absolutely ridiculous. Truer words have seldom been spoken .. he will remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rypien37 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It's insane that we live in a world where 5.25 million dollars a year is considered an "insult" These are the same people that complain about lockouts. Just because one GM decides to give a Letang 7 million, doesn't mean another should. That's how lockouts happen. This is simply being referred to numbers in today's NHL. Obviously not real world examples. Yes it's sad that pro athletes make millions while many essential, heavily relied on jobs get scraps. However, this is how things are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 So, Gardiner is worth $4.05 million and the Habs are offering $1.2 million more for a guy who already has won the Norris Trophy, put up 53 points in 82 games last season and just entering into his prime? If Letang is worth $7.25 million, then Subban is definitely worth in the $7.5-8.5 million range. Didn't Edler get 50 points just getting into his prime? Sure glad you never were around to give him 7.5-8.5M. What many of you fail to realize is that Subban is a defensive liability and not chosen to play for Team Canada in any of the games because of it. Him winning the Norris trophy was a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I hope PK asks for a trade outta that place. Disrespect by the Habs to their face of the franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 PK's a wingnut who at times is just as dangerous for Price as he is Tokarski or any other goalie, but he's a skilled wingnut. Just needs to be corralled. He'll get $7mil per at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Lol Bergevin the cheapo. Won't pay his captain, won't pay his best player. He should be glad Price is signed until 17-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Habs are idiots. I hope they lose PK next season after trying to milk him again. He ALREADY took a cheap bridge contract. It's PKs time to make what he's worth. Stupid francophones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It's insane that we live in a world where 5.25 million dollars a year is considered an "insult" These are the same people that complain about lockouts. Just because one GM decides to give a Letang 7 million, doesn't mean another should. That's how lockouts happen. it's supply and demand. 5.25 mil a year is an insult when you can make 7 mil a year. 10 bucks usd an hour is consider a lot in some third world country, how would you l ike your boss to offer you that wage when you can earn 20 bucks an hour? Same thing. In the world where Dubinsky can earn 5.8 mil a year, 5.25 mil a year is a fucking insult to a 25 years old norris winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 What a pathetic offer. Slap to the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 a lot of people here have no clue how arbitration works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah, we know: http://forum.canucks.com/topic/362737-pk-subban-wants-to-be-a-liferaka-long-term-with-the-canadiens-negotiations-are-getting-there/#entry12296502 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah, we know: http://forum.canucks.com/topic/362737-pk-subban-wants-to-be-a-liferaka-long-term-with-the-canadiens-negotiations-are-getting-there/#entry12296502 Be cool, Elvis. Be cool, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 a lot of people here have no clue how arbitration works. This, but then most people don't know the difference between RFA and UFA years either. Its much easier to overreact and compare Dennis Wideman's caphit to this offer than read up on how the arbitration process works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Habs gm is being like Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 a lot of people here have no clue how arbitration works. Yeah but if Montreal isn't careful, he'll insist on 2 years then walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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