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Thoughts:

If Kane has another decent year, he's going to be asking for the moon and he's the last guy I want to pay that too. 

Agree and really like the amount of skill and scoring forwards we have in the system.

We do need some more "jam" on our forward group though. That projected top 6 is pretty soft. Hopefully Virtanen, Gadovich and Mccewen can really contribute there.

Defence definitely has depth issues. Maybe it's just me and granted I haven't watch a lot of these guys so far, but I'm not sold on or sure why anyone thinks Briesbois, McEneny, and Chatfield project as NHLers. I mean I never would have thought Tanev would either until you watch him play, so there's always theory. But they certainly won't be point contributors at this level which is what we need.

 

 

Overall, I love Bennings drafting ability and his ability to find players who play a style that will be effective in the NHL. Shinkaruk for Grandlund. I'm not sold on his decision making in free agency. But I think Benning is learning and improving like the rest of this team

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i agree,everyone has a learning curve with a new job.now he's on the right path and doing an exceptional job.seems like everyone's on the right page now(bye bye WD)

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I am not convinced that management has 100% autonomy when it comes to the overall direction of this 'rebuild'.  With that being said, I think Benning is doing an ok job overall with his best attribute being scouting obviously.

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19 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

I am not convinced that management has 100% autonomy when it comes to the overall direction of this 'rebuild'.  With that being said, I think Benning is doing an ok job overall with his best attribute being scouting obviously.

It's weird how he's done well at finding talent late in the 1st round and beyond, but has struggled with his top picks.  

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42 minutes ago, nickels said:

For Benning to be doing a great job...a lot of those prospects will need to become stars ...so far zero have had any NHL success.

 

If you take Benning at his word, and the goal was to stay competitive and retool on the fly, while fighting for a playoff birth...

then he has failed miserably.

After 3 yrs at the helm... we were the 2nd worst team in the league last year.

We were also the least entertaining to watch probably...

 

He has overpaid in each of his contract negotiations w/the exception of Tanev,

Dorsett

Sbisa...

Sutter...too much for a 3rd line C

Eriksson .....only team in the league that would give 6x6...couldn't give him away today

Miller.....was way overpayed when had absolutely no competition for his services

Markstrom...too much for a guy who has never been more than a back up...

 

Thought Gagne maybe 2m-2.5, Nillson maybe 1m (where else was he gonna sign ??)

 

He doesn't seem to have a pulse on the value of players within the league, and the concept of supply and demand.

 

I think he failed miserably in the Kesler trade, the Vey trade,the Sutter trade,the Clendening trade and the Gudbranson trade.

Did Ok on Baer for a 2nd maybe, and Granlund for Shink was a win (think Weisbrod made this one)

 

Everyone points to the Burrows and Hansen trades as being his shining moment...and I hope they are

I have more faith in Ana and Ottawa's ability to assess these 2 players after having them in their system.

That they were willing to part with them for 3-4 liners in a playoff run speaks volumes to me.

 

I hope I am wrong and Goldie,Dahlen,Virtanen,Demko,Juolevi,Boeser et al all become stars...but as we sit here today, after 3 yrs in charge...

we are arguably the worst team in the league. (and probably the hardest to watch)

 

He is constantly ranked dead last in any consensus poll of hockey "experts", although I take this with a grain of salt.

 

Again...we suck after 3 years and are pinning our optimism on completely unproven players. CDC posters had Cole Cassels written in stone as our answer to shutting Connor McDavid for the next decade at this time last year.

 

Hardly what I would call  "a great job"...

 

I'd give him a D (up from F before this yrs trade deadline and draft)......but could improve if all these guys pan out.

 

 

 

 

 

Goldie was on Anaheim? i learn something new everyday lol.

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1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said:

I didn't realize that "blow it up" and "win the cup" are suppose to happen in the same year. If thats the standard Benning is being held to.... yikes. 

If we land another top 5 pick next year, that should set us on the path to be a really deep, competitive team, starting 2019 season, and for the foreseeable future.

 

Fans don't always take enough enjoyment from watching the youth that is coming up, develop into effective NHL players, and that development is a process that you can't shortcut or you wind up with a really bad team for more than a decade.

 

Is what it is, fans need to learn patience in building a team the right way.

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The Canucks won't be ready to compete yet for another 2-3 years. It's assumed the following players will leave the team during or after this time:

 

Daniel - retire

Henrik - retire

Eriksson - trade or buy out

Sutter - trade

Edler - trade or lose

Tanev - trade

Dorsett - retire

 

I see the future top 6 being:

 

Dahlen - Pettersson - Virtanen

______ - Horvat - Boeser

 

I still think they have to find a gritty, physical LWer for Bo's line (Gadjovich?). Kane or Landeskog would be great too. If not, perhaps Granlund plays on Bo's wing. For some reason, I just can't see Baertschi or Goldobin hoisting the Cup or being effective deep playoff performers. I also put Virtanen with the Swedes, to give that line some "push", to get to the dirty areas and to protect, while being capable of providing offence. Virtanen could be a beast in 2-3 years.

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every year we see these posts

remember when it was (using your format)

 

 Grabner Rodin (yes that rodin)

                                                       Connauton Rahimi

Hodgson Schroeder White Rai                                                          Clarke

                                                      Bourdon Sauve Ellington

Raymond xxx

 

Look at the at that Center Depth!  Thats a solid top five for a decade to come! Thats a 2012 Cup winner, right there!

Who knew that a decade later Mason Raymond would have had the most successful career with 251 points in 544 games, followed by Grabner, Hodgson, Connauton and Schroeder?

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1 hour ago, CanadianRugby said:

It's weird how he's done well at finding talent late in the 1st round and beyond, but has struggled with his top picks.  

With Virtanen, sure. But that's about all we can say at this point, so I don't think we can label Benning like that.

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6 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:

If we land another top 5 pick next year, that should set us on the path to be a really deep, competitive team, starting 2019 season, and for the foreseeable future.

 

Fans don't always take enough enjoyment from watching the youth that is coming up, develop into effective NHL players, and that development is a process that you can't shortcut or you wind up with a really bad team for more than a decade.

 

Is what it is, fans need to learn patience in building a team the right way.

You should have told that to Benning Is Doing a Great Job 3 years ago.

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