oldnews Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Think this might be posturing? Can never fully believe a GM and what he says. Even with Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 hours ago, Canucks Curse said: Anyone think we can get a 1st for Hutton? no way Hutton gets a 1st with how he has played this year. But yes 1 of the lefty D men we have should get dealt this TDL ideally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 A lot of people here know that Gudbranson wants to stay. His play shows this, when he has been healthy. I listened to his interviews today and he literally said it "...I love it here...I want to play here...if something can be worked out...". The Canucks also want to re-sign Gudbranson. The fact that management's first moves were to acquire Dorsett and Sbisa speaks volumes. The fact that they jumped at the opportunity and gave up what they did for him (basically two 1st round picks) tells you how much they value Guddy. Benning's mantra has always been that he wants a safe working environment. He was not referring to wet floor signs when he said this. In the attempt at humor in uploading the wet floor image, it reminded me of those beware of dog signs people use to deter and warn others. I love animals and not afraid of dogs but if I see this in a fenced in yard my mindset will change instantly. My attitude, disposition, intention, state of mind etc. will suddenly change. Gudbranson brings this kind of change in the mindset with his presence. Not only for the opposing team, but for his teammates as well. Hockey people like Benning, Linden, Talon etc. understand what Gudbranson brings to a team. Gudbranson helps greatly in creating a safe working environment in the regular season. He would also come in handy in the playoffs. He re-signs for between 4-5 mil/yr for 3 to 4 years. The Laffs can keep their grubby hands off our Guddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Gudbranson is more injury prone than Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, D-Money said: Gudbranson is more injury prone than Tanev. I have it like this: salo tanev badbackson sutter sutter sutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, riffraff said: I have it like this: salo tanev badbackson Edler Hamhuis Ohlund Mitchell Bieksa Jovanovski Ballard I'm just going to stop there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, oldnews said: Edler Hamhuis Ohlund Mitchell Ballard I'm just going to stop there.... Edler more injured than salo!?!? well I can't doubt your usual numbers as backup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, riffraff said: Edler more injured than salo!?!? well I can't doubt your usual numbers as backup.... I don't know about more or less, but Edler has had a number of seasons where he's missed 30 games....and had pretty serious back problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, oldnews said: I don't know about more or less, but Edler has had a number of seasons where he's missed 30 games....and had pretty serious back problems. Indeed. Certainly his issue has mainly been his back whereas salo injures himself in numerous random ways - unrelated to hockey even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, riffraff said: Indeed. Certainly his issue has mainly been his back whereas salo injures himself in numerous random ways - unrelated to hockey even the more I think about it - and that (sad but true) list - the team really needs to have a half dozen top 6 and about another half dozen bottom pairing D. Maybe we should not only re-sign Gudbranson, but Sbisa as well . And keep the rest of them. That is, if they want to be competetive next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, oldnews said: the more I think about it - and that (sad but true) list - the team really needs to have a half dozen top 6 and about another half dozen bottom pairing D. Maybe we should not only re-sign Gudbranson, but Sbisa as well . And keep the rest of them. That is, if they want to be competetive next year. I'll contact Rafael Diaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, riffraff said: I'll contact Rafael Diaz may as well. Yannick Weber is locked up in Nashville for 3 years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Gotta re-sign Guddy. We just don't have the depth coming up from the farm on D, and we're not likely going to any time soon. Replacing a player like him in free agency will likely cost more as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, DeNiro said: Gotta re-sign Guddy. We just don't have the depth coming up from the farm on D, and we're not likely going to any time soon. Replacing a player like him in free agency will likely cost more as well. not sure who is an exact comparison for Guddy this summer But I know Schenn is a UFA 28yr old 1.25m contract. If Gudbranson is going to be deployed on the 3rd pair, I would rather use half the cap space and just get Schenn. He will make the same mistakes but will cost less and wont need term to keep his cap hit down. Gudbranson 3-5yr @ 4-4.5m per season or Schenn 1-3yrs @ 1.5-2.25m per season The difference in cap space could be the raise we end up giving Baertschi. We do have cap space but the more we save the more we can spend elsewhere via FA or trade route at the draft. Schenn is only a -8 in Arizona, to me that seems impressive! was a -9 all of last year with them in a full year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, oldnews said: the more I think about it - and that (sad but true) list - the team really needs to have a half dozen top 6 and about another half dozen bottom pairing D. Maybe we should not only re-sign Gudbranson, but Sbisa as well . And keep the rest of them. That is, if they want to be competetive next year. I don't know what the 'usual' games lost to injuries is, but we seem to have passed that number, with ease, the last couple of seasons. During Gillis' time, he had some new age ideas to help keep players healthy. Seemed to work, but that might be pure coincidence. Re Gudbranson.......re-sign him ! Re Sbisa....re-sign him ( MDZ has not been my favourite ). Re AHL depth, I loved McEneny and at the beginning of this season thought he had 20 > 40 Canuck games lined up. Sautner has taken a step up. Blujus ( AHL contract ) seems to be a Cull favourite. Brisebois and Chatfield need to up their game a bit, but they are not behind their expected time line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Yotes said: not sure who is an exact comparison for Guddy this summer But I know Schenn is a UFA 28yr old 1.25m contract. If Gudbranson is going to be deployed on the 3rd pair, I would rather use half the cap space and just get Schenn. He will make the same mistakes but will cost less and wont need term to keep his cap hit down. Gudbranson 3-5yr @ 4-4.5m per season or Schenn 1-3yrs @ 1.5-2.25m per season The difference in cap space could be the raise we end up giving Baertschi. We do have cap space but the more we save the more we can spend elsewhere via FA or trade route at the draft. Schenn is only a -8 in Arizona, to me that seems impressive! was a -9 all of last year with them in a full year Except Gudbranson is far better at actual hockey, skating etc. Not even a question of who you sign there IMO. As for the injury discussion above @D-Money, @riffraff, @oldnews, @DeNiro... On 1/30/2018 at 10:51 AM, aGENT said: I still say we're better off re-signing him unless him/his agent are adamant he's making in the $5+ and long term territory. Anything around $4m'ish for 4-5'ish years I'm just fine with. And given those injuries etc, I really don't see him getting the giant pay day everyone's afraid of. As for the injuries, that's pretty much the case for all our top D. Tanev's never played a full season. Edler's played one (6 years ago) and a few high 70's low 80's seasons sprinkled throughout. That's not likely to change until we're a better team and/or have better D. We've presently got good, not great D playing too many minutes, over their heads on a rebuilding team with forwards who tend to have trouble keeping the puck in the offensive zone that only puts more defensive pressure on those D who were already playing over their heads. Recipe for injuries. Getting rid of quality depth from the D by moving Gudbranson is not going to improve that situation. And that was only made worse by key injuries to our top 2 / top 2 defensive C's, the loss of Dorsett, the loss of Baer etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skolozsy2 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Sweet Jesus, 127 pages! I hope he gets traded just so this thread can finally die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, skolozsy2 said: Sweet Jesus, 127 pages! I hope he gets traded just so this thread can finally die. To be replaced by 1000 pages of how Benning lost the trade and forever doomed the Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I hope he gets re-signed, which will start a new thread of handwringing and analytics weaselry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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