kurtis Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Green will be gone in 1-2 years from now. Won't be his fault though.. Just the cards he was given.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 On 2018-03-08 at 11:35 AM, The Sedge said: Love Green, love his no BS attitude with his players and the media, he'll do great things with the right group of players People like the OP need to take the blue pill and chill.. Next few years are gonna be more and more fun to watch. We have a lot of talent coming if pur current D core gets it together we have a good chance at becoming a quick contender and at least fun to watch higher scoring team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afan Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 TG scratched Goldobin for poor performance but this guy will never have the courage to bench any of the useless highly paid veterans JB signed. At this time any sensible coach would love to see how bad or good Goldobin is in preparation for the next season. Who except idiots would care if Jokinen can contribute? There won’t be hockey in Vancouver until the Sedins, TG, JB & TL are all gone. The owner must have deep pockets in view of the ever increasing empty seats at RA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 It’s never been about the coach. I wish we could go back and never fire AV. The whole it’s easier to blame a coach and change a coach then it is to blame a team and change a team has got to end. We’ve been terrible for a long time and it’s never been the coaches fault. Green is a fine coach he’s just coaching a bad team. Hopefully he’s still around when our team gets good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, afan said: TG scratched Goldobin for poor performance but this guy will never have the courage to bench any of the useless highly paid veterans JB signed. At this time any sensible coach would love to see how bad or good Goldobin is in preparation for the next season. Who except idiots would care if Jokinen can contribute? There won’t be hockey in Vancouver until the Sedins, TG, JB & TL are all gone. The owner must have deep pockets in view of the ever increasing empty seats at RA. Green sees what you don't. And he's seen enough of it from Goldobin to give him a night in the press box. You may need to see more to see how good or bad he is - but Green doesn't - he needs to see something different ouf of Goldobin - some NHL compete level. When it isn't there, he doesn't belong in an NHL lineup - hence a spacefiller like Jokinen in the lineup instead. Green is sending the correct message - Goldobin's current effort isn't going to earn him starts or a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, afan said: TG scratched Goldobin for poor performance but this guy will never have the courage to bench any of the useless highly paid veterans JB signed. At this time any sensible coach would love to see how bad or good Goldobin is in preparation for the next season. Who except idiots would care if Jokinen can contribute? There won’t be hockey in Vancouver until the Sedins, TG, JB & TL are all gone. The owner must have deep pockets in view of the ever increasing empty seats at RA. Allow me to introduce you to Elias Pettersson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, afan said: TG scratched Goldobin for poor performance but this guy will never have the courage to bench any of the useless highly paid veterans JB signed. At this time any sensible coach would love to see how bad or good Goldobin is in preparation for the next season. Who except idiots would care if Jokinen can contribute? There won’t be hockey in Vancouver until the Sedins, TG, JB & TL are all gone. The owner must have deep pockets in view of the ever increasing empty seats at RA. I don’t know why the notion of players earning their spot in the lineup is so hard to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 On 2018-03-08 at 2:36 PM, xereau said: Green was a blue collar player, so expect a similar team. Remember when the team went in straight lines and smashed at the start of the season. Ya, that is his identity. For whatever reason, through injury, through habit, or through defiance, the team identity changed over this season. Expect Green and Benning to cut the chaff that will not play his style. Absolutely. The injury to Bo is really what changed things up. Bo is such a force. Trymakin was the same way. Not violent or goes out to injure. Just so strong that you can’t stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 hours ago, oldnews said: Green sees what you don't. And he's seen enough of it from Goldobin to give him a night in the press box. You may need to see more to see how good or bad he is - but Green doesn't - he needs to see something different ouf of Goldobin - some NHL compete level. When it isn't there, he doesn't belong in an NHL lineup - hence a spacefiller like Jokinen in the lineup instead. Green is sending the correct message - Goldobin's current effort isn't going to earn him starts or a roster spot. Green is investing in his younger players. No entitlement. Skill and ability is not enough. This is about Goldy’s long term development, not winning this year. Not playing lots of minutes against easier AHL comp. Goldy is where Grabner was, not a high enough consistent work effort and two way play to be a bottom six, but needs to be able to produce and be effective against other team’s top lines. Hopefully he can can figure it out before he hits the trade market or waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afan Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: Green is investing in his younger players. No entitlement. Skill and ability is not enough. This is about Goldy’s long term development, not winning this year. Not playing lots of minutes against easier AHL comp. Goldy is where Grabner was, not a high enough consistent work effort and two way play to be a bottom six, but needs to be able to produce and be effective against other team’s top lines. Hopefully he can can figure it out before he hits the trade market or waiver wire. This is the problem with this team. Each and every young skilled forward is labelled a defense liability before being tested. Grabner was traded away after he scored a beauty in the playoff and he became a penalty kill expect in New York. Grabner made people calling him defense liability look like fools. Goldobin has no future with the Canucks. He has to be traded to Tampa or Detroit to excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 22 hours ago, TheYjUstMaKeYoUwooZy said: The other thing I see a lot people saying is to wave him. This is just as silly because he will be claimed and we will be stuck with half his cap hit. And who are you going to replace him with for less than 3 million? I posted this but it is an old rule, they take the entire contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, afan said: This is the problem with this team. Each and every young skilled forward is labelled a defense liability before being tested. Grabner was traded away after he scored a beauty in the playoff and he became a penalty kill expect in New York. Grabner made people calling him defense liability look like fools. Goldobin has no future with the Canucks. He has to be traded to Tampa or Detroit to excel. Selective memory Afan. Grabner was traded to Florida in the ill Fated Ballard deal. It was between Raymond and Grabner and Florida went with Grabner. The trade was flawed, but Grabner ended up waived by Florida that camp, Grabner was picked up by NYI and that is when he start taking his career seriously, he has said, paraphrasing, that he was shook up by being waived and it turned his career around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 13 hours ago, oldnews said: Green sees what you don't. If he can get Motte another 11 games in then he is no longer waivers exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: If he can get Motte another 11 games in then he is no longer waivers exempt. and that relates to my post about Goldobin.....how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Green is doing a fine job. Season is about development and moving forward. Doing good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 14 hours ago, oldnews said: Green sees what you don't. 15 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: If he can get Motte another 11 games in then he is no longer waivers exempt. 7 minutes ago, oldnews said: and that relates to my post about Goldobin.....how? It was more about what Green knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, TheGuardian_ said: It was more about what Green knows. cool. can't say I'm concerned about Motte's waiver eligibility tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYjUstMaKeYoUwooZy Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: I posted this but it is an old rule, they take the entire contract. I did not know this. When people are claimed off of waivers they now take the whole salary and cap? there is no penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLions Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Goldobin's skill lets him get away with lazy, dipsy doodle plays in every league except for the NHL. Trouble for him is in the NHL everyone is just as talented, and way smarter. There is a reason the Sharks gave up on him, and if Green can't get through to him, he'll be gone by next year. Green's #1 role here is to develop...if he's around when they contend, then that's gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 10:49 AM, kloubek said: I'd do that. Anyway, to the OP: Our coach is fine. He demands uptempo play, and that will be exactly how we want to play when our slower, older guys are gone and the young speedy guys come in. We've been through a lot of coaches lately, and I'm pretty confident at this point the coach is not the problem at all. The problem (besides many key injuries) is that we're just not that good of a team. We're too slow and not as talented as we need to be - but don't worry... that's coming soon. I disagree we have 4 rookie coaches Our D is terrible Our G is terrible Our PK is bad, (although I am not sure if that is Manny's responsibility) And our overall team is terrible. I wonder how many players can say who they will line up with at the 10 minute mark of the 1st or the beginning of the 2nd? I'll answer that, Hank, Dank and Jussi. Since when was "LineBlender" an acceptable coaching strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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