kloubek Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 All the experts talk about how good Hughes is at his offensive game, but what gets often overlooked is his defence. He uses his body *extremely* well, and that helps offset his diminutive size at least somewhat. He is also very young, and though he will never be a big guy in any context, he will likely get noticably stronger. This will allow him and his creativity to work his magic in tight better than he does now. Just something added to his arsenal down the road. What a gem, and easily the most talented defenseman we have ever had. This is been a good couple years for high end blueliners. If it wasn't so, there would be a ton of focus put on Quinn. That's a good thing. As I said several posts ago, time will tell how these guys all turn out, but at the end of the day, we got the guy WE needed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, kloubek said: All the experts talk about how good Hughes is at his offensive game, but what gets often overlooked is his defence. He uses his body *extremely* well, and that helps offset his diminutive size at least somewhat. He is also very young, and though he will never be a big guy in any context, he will likely get noticably stronger. This will allow him and his creativity to work his magic in tight better than he does now. Just something added to his arsenal down the road. What a gem, and easily the most talented defenseman we have ever had. This is been a good couple years for high end blueliners. If it wasn't so, there would be a ton of focus put on Quinn. That's a good thing. As I said several posts ago, time will tell how these guys all turn out, but at the end of the day, we got the guy WE needed. THE TEAMS WHO DRATED 1 to 6 ALL WANT NOW. FIFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Canucks Record Hughes first Year Vs Buffalo’s record Dahlin’s first year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 7/12/2018 at 1:34 PM, shayster007 said: Everything makes Dahlin better the Hughes. He is just superior in every mesaureable. Hughes is a fantastic talent and could be our first true number 1 D, but Dahlin has just as likely of a chance of being the NHLs number one D. I wouldn't trade Q. Hughes for any D in this league. I think he is the best already at 19 years old. Yes better than Dahlin to. That's what I've seen with my own eyes. Q. Hughes > Dahlin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, CoolCanucklehead said: I wouldn't trade Q. Hughes for any D in this league. I think he is the best already at 19 years old. Yes better than Dahlin to. That's what I've seen with my own eyes. Q. Hughes > Dahlin. Stats back up your eyes too. Quinn is way better than Dahlin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 10:43 AM, Elias Pettersson said: Same with Petey, he got him at #5 and he is without a doubt the best player in his draft. sure pump your own tires no bias in your posting about ep40 i need a couple more years of petey playing regularly to see if he continues to outperform makar there is still some possibility that makar proves to be the best player from that draft there is some speculation jb would have taken makar over ep40 if that were possible in that draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, coastal.view said: sure pump your own tires no bias in your posting about ep40 i need a couple more years of petey playing regularly to see if he continues to outperform makar there is still some possibility that makar proves to be the best player from that draft there is some speculation jb would have taken makar over ep40 if that were possible in that draft Makar is not even close to me. My buddy Huggy Bear is also much better player than Makar. Trust me... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, CoolCanucklehead said: I wouldn't trade Q. Hughes for any D in this league. I think he is the best already at 19 years old. Yes better than Dahlin to. That's what I've seen with my own eyes. Q. Hughes > Dahlin. Weird thing to do, quote a message from 2 years ago. My statement is still 100% true. Hughes is an incredible talent, but Dahlin is still the one D prospect in the league that is better. Edited February 17, 2020 by shayster007 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Makar is not even close to me. My buddy Huggy Bear is also much better player than Makar. Trust me... time will tell i do not take anyone's word about the future (well except alf's crystal ball) few of us an see accurately that far into time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 So glad we got Hughes. With all that talk about Dahlin being generational, who would have thought another potentially generational defenseman would slip to us at 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullishfor2012 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 At this point in time, I would take Hughes over Dahlin. Because of Hughes' outstanding skating skills, he covers as much ice, if not more than Dahlin. So despite being smaller, Hughes' defensive coverage through all zones of the ice is on par with Dahlin. I haven't seen much from Dahlin on the physical side of the game (if others have seen more of him, please say so), so I don't see any distinct advantage to Dahlin being bigger than Hughes. Hughes drives the play offensively more than Dahlin. I haven't studied the advanced stats, but the eye test says that Hughes drives offensive play better than even our own Elias Pettersson. Those are my reasons why I would take Hughes over Dahlin, even though I have a greater affinity for big and mobile d-men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 One is a generational player. Really no comparison at all. Like comparing Gretzky to Bure. I would take either in a heartbeat and not be disappointed, but one is definitely on another level than the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Ronaldoescobar said: One is a generational player. Really no comparison at all. Like comparing Gretzky to Bure. I would take either in a heartbeat and not be disappointed, but one is definitely on another level than the other. Hughes proving he’s way better than Dahlin is why that Sabre fan guy left our forum. At least the Sabres can take solace with having that stud Middlestadt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: Hughes proving he’s way better than Dahlin is why that Sabre fan guy left our forum. At least the Sabres can take solace with having that stud Middlestadt. Is he gone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, Where's Wellwood said: Is he gone? Oh that’s right. Middlestadt is in the minors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Oh that’s right. Middlestadt is in the minors. so is Kotkaniemi which is interesting. Thank you Montreal. Anyways different thread I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On the QH thread I made a post stating that they have really similar production even though Dahlin is on a worse team. I also state the differences in both players and why I think Dahlin is much more valued and has more potential. Personally I'd take Dahlin which is no slight to Hughes. Both are amazing defenseman though that every other team wish they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundernuts Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 A little premature to determine who will be the better player. Obviously, right now, Hughes is looking like the better player, but they haven't even finished their rookie season yet. Remember Vladimir Malakhov? He outperformed all other rookie defensemen in his rookie year as well, including Scott Neidermayer. Who would you say was the better defensemen? I am a huge Hughes fan, but that doesn't mean that Dahlin, or Makar, won't end up having better careers, or turn out to be better rear guards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 3:04 PM, CoolCanucklehead said: I wouldn't trade Q. Hughes for any D in this league. I think he is the best already at 19 years old. Yes better than Dahlin to. That's what I've seen with my own eyes. Q. Hughes > Dahlin. my instincts are to tell you to pump your breaks in the name of objectivity, but if I'm honest, I can't remember seeing another defenceman in the league this year that affected his team's play more than hughes does. if he's not the best defenceman in the nhl, he might be the most impactful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, tas said: my instincts are to tell you to pump your breaks in the name of objectivity, but if I'm honest, I can't remember seeing another defenceman in the league this year that affected his team's play more than hughes does. if he's not the best defenceman in the nhl, he might be the most impactful. Quinn Hughes controls the game. Dahlin doesn’t. Maybe that’s due to Quinn’s incredible skating, puck skills, hockey sense, and calmness; all traits that Dahlin has, but not at the elite level like Quinn? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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