wallstreetamigo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 If they pay a rental price for Weiss then fine. Anything more than that and he is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Weiss will want a multi-year deal at around 5 per. Huberdeau and Bjugstad are the future in Florida, so they don't want to shell out that much on what will potentially be their #3 center. Can't blame them. That said, Weiss would look great on the Nucks, even if he just ended up a rental. But I could see a team with bigger holes at center (looking at you, Calgary) offering a fair bit, with the aim to lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bjugstad isn't going anywhere either way, with or without Weiss. To Vancouver: - Weiss - Upshall (Cap Dump) - Petrovic or Trocheck - Conditional 2nd (If Weiss doesn't re-sign) To Florida: - Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Booth: has shown, he "has" "shown" he can be good value for his paycheque. Got a knee injury last year, and it was his first year, coming in half-way. Injury was the real problem. Will he be worth his paycheque? A good chance, but no guarantee. Give him a chance. Ballard: arguably, he is showing so far this year that he deserves his cheque. Let's see it continue, and there won't be any more complaining. Oh and seriously, stop complaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 If we agree to take Scottie Upshall (since that should free up enough cap space), maybe Florida will give us one of Huberdeau, Bjugstad or Gudbranson as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bjugstad isn't going anywhere either way, with or without Weiss. To Vancouver: - Weiss - Upshall (Cap Dump) - Petrovic or Trocheck - Conditional 2nd (If Weiss doesn't re-sign) To Florida: - Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Weiss will want a multi-year deal at around 5 per. Huberdeau and Bjugstad are the future in Florida, so they don't want to shell out that much on what will potentially be their #3 center. Can't blame them. That said, Weiss would look great on the Nucks, even if he just ended up a rental. But I could see a team with bigger holes at center (looking at you, Calgary) offering a fair bit, with the aim to lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 That's the thing though, Weiss won't re-sign because he would be slotted as a 3rd line centre here, and would still require $4mil+. Even if it means sliding Kes over to wing then one of Burrows or Booth wind up on the 3rd. I can't see how having a $4+ mil player on the 3rd line makes any sense for next year. Weiss is essentially a rental so your trade suggested here is mediocre return. a solid single, maybe a ground rule double, but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Upshall could immediately be bought out if management didn't want him on the team. It's not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 The thing is, Weiss as a rental brings value in the deal, we can't expect to get everything. Petrovic is a pretty good prospect and that 2nd in this deep draft could be very valuable. Petrovic is a really good prospect, a top 4 guy with size, good allround skill and some nastyness/grit. The 2nd in this deep draft would be valuable as it would most likely be a mid round pick, could get a good player if this draft is anything like 03. Imagine a future right side of: Corrado, Tanev, Petrovic. Good point, Not too keen on Upshall either but I don't see anyone else we could bring in as a cap dump. The thing is we have to take money back in this trade, cause if they can't afford Weiss they won't be able to afford Luongo without Cap Coming back. Maybe Bergenheim instead? What's he signed for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Upshall could immediately be bought out if management didn't want him on the team. It's not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 i dont think you can buy him out until the summer now, could always send him down to the minors though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Good point, Not too keen on Upshall either but I don't see anyone else we could bring in as a cap dump. The thing is we have to take money back in this trade, cause if they can't afford Weiss they won't be able to afford Luongo without Cap Coming back. Maybe Bergenheim instead? What's he signed for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobiedoodoo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Weiss won't be coming here. He is the "throw in" Gillis is referring to. Player with salary that doesn't fit into what the Canucks need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I dont think we have to take a salary dump.They could always trade Weiss to another team if they wish to dump him. Bergenheim is signed for 2.75m. preety good price but he's injured. how about this, MG likes project players right? Mueller had lots of potential but didnt live up to it. They shed alittle bit of salary, enough to probably give Weiss his raise. Mueller 1.75m (RFA) Bjugstad for Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Weiss Bjugstad Upshall 2nd For Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Garrison looks fine defensively but he is not being used as effectively in Van as he was last year in Florida. No one is setting him up for one timers the way Campbell did on the PP.......He does not look like a 16 goal scorer right now at all. I didn't say those guys play like crap, I said they don't bring the same game to Vancouver when they end up here, which unfortunately in all 3 of those cases is true so far. As for Booth, he has not played up to expectations at all and looks pretty average with Kesler. Of course we all hope that will change but my point wasn't about what we hope for...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Weiss will want a multi-year deal at around 5 per. Huberdeau and Bjugstad are the future in Florida, so they don't want to shell out that much on what will potentially be their #3 center. Can't blame them. That said, Weiss would look great on the Nucks, even if he just ended up a rental. But I could see a team with bigger holes at center (looking at you, Calgary) offering a fair bit, with the aim to lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 No they added a buyout for this season. That's why Redden and Gomez were bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefcake Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Panthers don't really want Luongo back. I mean they would like him back but not his salary. That's the main reason they traded him to Vancouver years ago, knowing they wouldn't be able to afford his next contact, same as Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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