Bruce Boudreau Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Gillis doesn't seem to understand the value of his own players. I understand being player friendly but at some point you have to remove yourself from the emotional attachment to a player to see his current value objectively. With his total mishandling of the Luongo situation and further denial to make a move yet because he "wants to see the full team in action" and because the deals "are not good enough" right now is crazy. He obviously has no clue how to make a hockey trade. Gillis is a wannabe GM who is a player agent. Gilman handles the contract negotiations already why not let him make the call on trades and let Gillis focus on the business side. Gillis has too much power and doesn't know what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsPajamas Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 How much do you want a bet Botchford regularly browses CDC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 MG wanted 4 pieces?!?!?!?! No wonder a trade didn't get done...WTF MG I would have been fine with Nyquist/Tatar and a 1st....That would have been fair value for Edler because... Our defense could have been Hamhuis-Bieksa Garrison-Tanev Alberts-Corrado/Stanton ***filled youth+vets and our prospects could have been Shinkaruk-Horvat-Mantha Cassels-Nyquist-Jensen Archibald-Gaunce-Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Come on guys, check the source before you eat whatever is spoon fed to you. The original post on the Province site doesn't even bother hinting at an anonymous source or anything. Just conjecture spewed as a fact. Botch also implies that Edler was playing perfectly up until this season, until Torts and Garrison gave him some 'bad habits'. Funniest part, and I couldn't even make this kind of thing up, is the whole section is laid out under the heading 'Best Story'. Classic Botch Job. http://blogs.theprov...-shanahan-what/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 i would've done nyqvist + 1st + ryan sproul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 If GIllis didn't accept 3 useful pieces for our worst defenceman, this is even worse than not buying out Luongo and trading Schneids. Thanks to Gillis, we're now stuck with 2 bad contracts because he keeps asking for too much. At the rate Edler's playing, he'll be a buyout candidate this offseason. If there's any truth to this, Gillis needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Old news, If only every team in the league could go back and trade/accept offer's negotiated in the past seasons..pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Franzen, Nyquist, Mantha, and 1st for Kesler and Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 More crap from Botch. I wonder if MG called to tell him or Holland? Guy makes up 90% of the things he writes and the other 10% is rumours. Typical Botchjob he does talk about "the boards". don't doubt it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Nyquist, Smith, 1st? Wow..imagine if we had that. Nyquist is a real good player and Smith would be on the bottom pairing. We would save cap space and then have another 1st round player added to Hunter and Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Franzen, Nyquist, Mantha, and 1st for Kesler and Edler. No way Kesler is getting traded. We lack centers already, we don't need to trade one away. I wouldn't trade Kesler unless a young centerman with tons of potential is coming back, like B. Schenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 If GIllis didn't accept 3 useful pieces for our worst defenceman, this is even worse than not buying out Luongo and trading Schneids. Thanks to Gillis, we're now stuck with 2 bad contracts because he keeps asking for too much. At the rate Edler's playing, he'll be a buyout candidate this offseason. If there's any truth to this, Gillis needs to be fired. You guys are so dramatic when it comes to this type of stuff. Relax, am sure we could still get something decent for Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 helm, tatar, 1st or abdelkader, kindl, 1st either i would love. especially if we picked mantha with the 20th overall. With that package, we would sure have a much brighter future. Then in the next 2 years: Sedin-Sedin-Kesler Shinkaruk-Horvat-Tatar Kassian-Helm-Burrows Hansen-Gaunce-Sestito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Get over it people ... Edler is here for a while. Stop crying over spilt milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Anaheim was also in on Edler To Anaheim Alex Edler Kassian To Vancouver. Lucas Sbisa. Nick Bonino Emerson Etem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Mg is an odd guy isn't he... Asks way too much for luongo and edler and then practically gives away grabner, Hodgson and Schneider Those are the 3 biggest pieces mg has traded over his tenure and what do we have on the team to show for it, kassian and horvat on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I get that some of you don't like Gilis and can even understand it but lets not go crazy and start taking Botch word for word here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Would have been pretty sweet knowing that Mantha and either Sproul or Nyquist was in our system as well. But people who think that Edler is not worth a 3 piece package or a comparable package are crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesfaninsurrey Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 iirc it was Brendan Smith and Tomas Tatar for Edler that Det offered. Maybe not a stellar return but would have opened up cap space that could have been used to improve team in other areas and would have shaken up your core. Another poster nailed it when they said Gillis overvalues some players and undervalues others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo Fring Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Gillis was right to ask for 4 pieces. Edler would be a beast if he were to go to Detroit, its the Ken Holland effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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