Fudd Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 edit: double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 lol the russian girl almost broke the world record despite 1 stumble and a performance no where near the performance of yuna 4yrs ago at vancouver. can we just get rid of all the sports that's judged in the olympic? coz it's not really a competition if it's based on someone's opinion is it? coz the host nation will always somehow have a home field advantage in scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I think the point is that you're inappropriately and grossly objectifying a fine, young athlete who should be recognized for her talents as opposed to her costume choice. Oh my god, keep your belief and views to yourself. There was nothing gross or inappropriate about my comment about her showing off her butt for bonus points. She chose that costume for the entire world to see if she didn't want people to see her butt she would of covered it up, but she didn't and I applaud her for that because it made her skate watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 lol the russian girl almost broke the world record despite 1 stumble and a performance no where near the performance of yuna 4yrs ago at vancouver. can we just get rid of all the sports that's judged in the olympic? coz it's not really a competition if it's based on someone's opinion is it? coz the host nation will always somehow have a home field advantage in scores you maybe also want to look at how they select the judges and look at those people's score sheet.... it's disgusting the more you dig into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Oh my god, keep your belief and views to yourself. There was nothing gross or inappropriate about my comment about her showing off her butt for bonus points. She chose that costume for the entire world to see if she didn't want people to see her butt she would of covered it up, but she didn't and I applaud her for that because it made her skate watchable. it's not inappropriate, it's just dumb as hell. What's next? The russian girl wins because of the bonus point of being prettier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbera Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Is it possible for the judge's scores to be revealed to the public? I mean... since there's so much controversy with the figure skating this year, why don't they just display the score of which judge gave what score to a specific skater. If a judge continuously to give out scores that are so far apart from the other judges, then change the judge to another person during the 2nd dance. I am pretty sure this will make it harder for the judges to give out ridiculous scores repeatedly because they know what they are doing is easily tracked by the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 it's not inappropriate, it's just dumb as hell. What's next? The russian girl wins because of the bonus point of being prettier? I wouldn't put it past them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 wow... someone was abused by a figure skater Patrick Chan broke his heart, Damn you Patrick!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Katrinna Witt was very critical of the judging in these results, in an interview with Scott Russell. Most of these IOC officials are lifers in these positions and are very seldom reviewed. Once your in, you're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Looks like Korea is finally protesting.... SOCHI, Russia -- The South Korean Olympic Committee has protested the results of the women's figure skating competition, although the sport's international governing body has not yet received the letter. Also, International Skating Union rules always have required such protests be filed immediately after the event. The Koreans believe the judging was biased and cost Yuna Kim a second gold medal. The 2010 champion finished with silver, behind Russian teenager Adelina Sotnikova. IOC spokesman Mark Adams says any figure skating protest is a matter for the ISU to handle. Much of the uproar over the women's free skate centres on what many perceived as a lack of artistry in Sotnikova's program. Yet her marks were comparable or better than those for the highly artistic Kim. Her technical marks were significantly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denguin Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Is it possible for the judge's scores to be revealed to the public? I mean... since there's so much controversy with the figure skating this year, why don't they just display the score of which judge gave what score to a specific skater. If a judge continuously to give out scores that are so far apart from the other judges, then change the judge to another person during the 2nd dance. I am pretty sure this will make it harder for the judges to give out ridiculous scores repeatedly because they know what they are doing is easily tracked by the public. Oddly enough, they used to have the "public" system, and if was replaced by the anonymous system as a result of the judging scandal in 2002 with Salé and Pelletier. The idea behind the change was that judges wouldn't feel pressured to fulfill any external demands to fix scores, since no one would ever find out who gave what score. So the answer is no, there's no way to find out which judge gave what score... As far as we know, anyway. Plan backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Shaky like your comments say, the protest must be filed the day of the event. Apparently the Russian judge has a marriage connection to the event/participant, not too sure about that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Fin-ished and I'm in the wrong damn thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Fin-ished and I'm in the wrong damn thread Maybe not Deb. The Americans look like they're figure skaters and their play is scandalous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deets Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Oh my god, keep your belief and views to yourself. There was nothing gross or inappropriate about my comment about her showing off her butt for bonus points. She chose that costume for the entire world to see if she didn't want people to see her butt she would of covered it up, but she didn't and I applaud her for that because it made her skate watchable. So you're saying the only reason skating is watchable is to see 17yo girls asses? Did you ever think, maybe these costumes were made that way to be less restricting, not so you could ogle under age girls lady parts? The fact that you are defending yourself and saying "she chose to look that way" really tells a lot about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 South Korea protests women’s figure skating silver medal FIGURE SKATING Darron Cummings,The Associated Press Yuna Kim of South Korea wipes her face as she attends a news conference following the women's free skate figure skating finals at the Iceberg Skating Palace during the 2014 Winter Olympics, Thursday, Feb. 20, 2014, in Sochi, Russia. FIGURE SKATING Ivan Sekretarev,The Associated Press Yuna Kim of South Korea competes in the women's free skate figure skating finals at the Iceberg Skating Palace during the 2014 Winter Olympics, Thursday, Feb. 20, 2014, in Sochi, Russia. FIGURE SKATING Darron Cummings,The Associated Press Adelina Sotnikova, center, of Russia, Yuna Kim, left, of South Korea, and Carolina Kostner of Italy stand on the podium. Hamilton Spectator ByBarry Wilner SOCHI, RUSSIA The South Korean Olympic Committee has protested the results of the women's figure skating competition, although the sport's international governing body said Saturday it has not yet received the letter. International Skating Union rules always have required such protests be filed immediately after the event. The Koreans believe the judging was biased and cost Yuna Kim a second gold medal. The 2010 champion finished with silver, behind Russian teenager Adelina Sotnikova. Much of the uproar over the women's free skate centres on what many perceived as a lack of artistry in Sotnikova's program. Yet her marks were comparable or better than those for the highly artistic Kim. Her technical marks were significantly better. Bronze medallist Carolina Kostner of Italy also fell into the same category as Kim in her marks. Asked to comment on South Korean media reports of the protest, International Olympic Committee spokesman Mark Adams on Saturday said any figure skating issues would be a matter for the ISU to handle. "They have their processes and regulations," Adams said. "From what I understand the letter wouldn't trigger any investigation." The ISU said it had not received the letter, and declined to comment further. On Friday, the ISU released a statement saying it "is confident in the high quality and integrity of the ISU judging system." "The ISU is strongly committed to conducting performance evaluations strictly and fairly and has adequate procedures in place to ensure the proper running of the sporting competitions," the statement said. "The officiating judges were selected by random drawing from a pool of 13 potential judges. All judges in an event represent different ISU member federations. The ladies' free skating panel included judges from Canada, Estonia, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, Slovakia and Ukraine." Scott Hamilton, the 1984 Olympic champion and a longtime television analyst who worked the games in Sochi for NBC, sees an intrinsic flaw in that setup. He believes the judges should be insulated from the day-to-day management of the sport, not a part of the federations that run it. "The problem was never the scoring system," Hamilton said of the 6.0 format that was changed to the points system soon after the 2002 Games pairs scandal. "It was how the judges are selected for these competitions. What happened in Salt Lake City resulted in this scoring system not treating the issue. Every sport out there has an affiliated association of officials. They are separate from the federation, and figure skating is hesitant to do that. It is a fundamental issue that leads to people having a hard time taking the results as the results." The Associated Press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 If the United States media decides to take up the cause like they did for Canada in 2002, there is a chance. So far there hasn't been overwhelming support. And the appeal came way too late. Two days and nothing has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 it's not inappropriate, it's just dumb as hell. What's next? The russian girl wins because of the bonus point of being prettier? The girl who came before her showed off her butt too but her face looked like she was hit with a shovel so yes I definitely would of given my bonus points to the prettier one. So you're saying the only reason skating is watchable is to see 17yo girls asses? Did you ever think, maybe these costumes were made that way to be less restricting, not so you could ogle under age girls lady parts? The fact that you are defending yourself and saying "she chose to look that way" really tells a lot about you. I didn't know a 17 year old girl showing off her butt was considered showing her underaged lady parts! The costume was definitely not made to be less restricting it was made to show off her butt. Again you bring in the factor of underaged which is completely meaningless simply because we are not talking about stripping or pornography but just a girl wanting to show off her butt while she figure skated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 lol the russian girl almost broke the world record despite 1 stumble and a performance no where near the performance of yuna 4yrs ago at vancouver. can we just get rid of all the sports that's judged in the olympic? coz it's not really a competition if it's based on someone's opinion is it? coz the host nation will always somehow have a home field advantage in scores The penalty calls in the hockey tournament were pretty bad, and are far worse in the NHL. So I hope you don't watch either of those, given the discretionary nature of penalties (and in the NHL's case, so many rules that if they were enforced properly there'd never be 5 on 5) and how they dramatically affect the outcome of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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