King Heffy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I dont understand the gillis hate here... I, for one, think he did a great job here.... Bad trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I dont understand the gillis hate here... I, for one, think he did a great job here.... You're not alone. He's certainly a polarizing figure; & some 'insider-types' probably wanted him to crash out. If you line up his hits & misses, I figure he's on the positive side. Any wanna cry about a GM's work? Look at Nonis, since spring 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Gillis was the worst gm to ever draft in a period of 5 years. Literally not one playrr an nhl regular besides hodgson. Thats why vancouver sucks. You should take to reading the Bible, son .. specifically "The Book of Job" .. it will honestly cheer you up and teach you a new level of tolerance .. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 That is one sad post. You might want to change your name to 'Desole'. You should take to reading the Bible, son .. specifically "The Book of Job" .. it will honestly cheer you up and teach you a new level of tolerance .. I hope. Besides Bourdon passing away Gillis literally screwed up 30 rounds straight of drafting. Only after the Gaunce pick did he really find some gems like Cassels, and before that pretty much just Corrado and Hodgson. Vancouver does suck because we're currently in a death valley of having no young talent to supplement us, 5 years ago we had Kesler and Burrows making Linden and Sundin retire because there was simply no room anymore, who's pushing anyone now? Kassian and Jensen are coming along nicely but they're already in our top 6. Gillis did not do as an "ok" job as a lot of whacko's in this thread are implying. Do you even pay attention to what he's done when you consider the team he inheritted, and the UFA's who were ready to come here anyway. His drafting sucked, his team needs' analysis sucked, his contracts were absolutely horrible and have handcuffed us bad and at the same time great at finding players like Tanev and Santorelli. Hid grade from me is an easy C, and anything less than a B- is setting ur team back, Gillis did that Edit: wrap your head around this one, Bernier, Grabner, and a 1st for Keith Ballard who was a buyout, no excuses this guy should not be employed again until he takes a job as a scout for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I think Gillis would do well on his next GM gig....He basically learnt on the job with Canucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Besides Bourdon passing away Gillis literally screwed up 30 rounds straight of drafting. Only after the Gaunce pick did he really find some gems like Cassels, and before that pretty much just Corrado and Hodgson. Vancouver does suck because we're currently in a death valley of having no young talent to supplement us, 5 years ago we had Kesler and Burrows making Linden and Sundin retire because there was simply no room anymore, who's pushing anyone now? Kassian and Jensen are coming along nicely but they're already in our top 6. Gillis did not do as an "ok" job as a lot of whacko's in this thread are implying. Do you even pay attention to what he's done when you consider the team he inheritted, and the UFA's who were ready to come here anyway. His drafting sucked, his team needs' analysis sucked, his contracts were absolutely horrible and have handcuffed us bad and at the same time great at finding players like Tanev and Santorelli. Hid grade from me is an easy C, and anything less than a B- is setting ur team back, Gillis did that Edit: wrap your head around this one, Bernier, Grabner, and a 1st for Keith Ballard who was a buyout, no excuses this guy should not be employed again until he takes a job as a scout for 5 years. Jesus Christ, that still stings to read. Gillis ripped apart this team piece by piece. That some people fail to see this is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 At least gillis stocked our prospects better than nonis did before he leftNonis draft picks. Edler Schneider Raymond Grabner Bourdon (Rip, if he were alive would be top 2 pairing) Jannik Hansen Mike Brown Hell of a lot better then Gillis. Given how short his tenure was here. Nonis also drafted White who landed us Erhoff. Traded for our best goalie of all time. Signed Burrows and Willie Mitchell. And if want to go back even further the Sedins Bieksa and Kesler were Burke picks. Most of our 2011 core were in the organization before Gillis even came here. Gillis inherited quite an amazing team. And proceeded to throw up all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Nonis draft picks.EdlerSchneiderRaymondGrabnerBourdon (Rip, if he were alive would be top 2 pairing)Jannik HansenMike BrownHell of a lot better then Gillis. Given how short his tenure was here. Nonis also drafted White who landed us Erhoff. Traded for our best goalie of all time. Signed Burrows and Willie Mitchell.And if want to go back even further the Sedins Bieksa and Kesler were Burke picks. Most of our 2011 core were in the organization before Gillis even came here.Gillis inherited quite an amazing team. And proceeded to throw up all over it.It appears that most of Nonis' picks came in the first draft, when he was just reading Burke's notes. Y'know... Beside the note that said 'Trade for Luongo'?Beyond that draft, Nonis picked up Bourdon, Raymond, and Grabner. Instead of Kopitar, Letang and Giroux. The man had no clue on what he was doing.Sadly, Gillis made some errors as well. And that's why we're at where we're at. Although a lot of guys are still not ready to be judged yet. There is way more potential than what Nonis picked up, that's for sure.Hopefully the Trevor Linden era brings about some success in this regard. Historically, the Canucks have been quite brutal at drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Jesus Christ, that still stings to read. Gillis ripped apart this team piece by piece. That some people fail to see this is mind boggling.If anyone is to blame for that trade, it's the pro scout that failed to notice just how severely injured Ballard was before he came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Not sure how gillis can even be considered for another job. If you really look into his decisons he is not capable of managing a team. I have to this agree with this now. If you look at his record as a gm from 2009 to 2014 no general managers have a better record then him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It appears that most of Nonis' picks came in the first draft, when he was just reading Burke's notes. Y'know... Beside the note that said 'Trade for Luongo'? Beyond that draft, Nonis picked up Bourdon, Raymond, and Grabner. Instead of Kopitar, Letang and Giroux. The man had no clue on what he was doing. Sadly, Gillis made some errors as well. And that's why we're at where we're at. Although a lot of guys are still not ready to be judged yet. There is way more potential than what Nonis picked up, that's for sure. Hopefully the Trevor Linden era brings about some success in this regard. Historically, the Canucks have been quite brutal at drafting. You know who else passed on those guys, 15-20 other some odd teams. Yet it's only our GM's are stupid. And we are comparing Nonis' picks to Gillis not Nonis to the league so spare me that waste of a tid bit. Guess who Gillis passed on Palat, guess who else Nyquist. Does all this matter when comparing his draft picks to Nonis? No, just like your comment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It appears that most of Nonis' picks came in the first draft, when he was just reading Burke's notes. Y'know... Beside the note that said 'Trade for Luongo'? Beyond that draft, Nonis picked up Bourdon, Raymond, and Grabner. Instead of Kopitar, Letang and Giroux. The man had no clue on what he was doing. Sadly, Gillis made some errors as well. And that's why we're at where we're at. Although a lot of guys are still not ready to be judged yet. There is way more potential than what Nonis picked up, that's for sure. Hopefully the Trevor Linden era brings about some success in this regard. Historically, the Canucks have been quite brutal at drafting. you're reaching. gillis passed on erik karlsson and jordan eberle to take cody hodgson and skipped justin schultz, derek stepan, travis hamonic and marco scandella to draft yann sauve. and thats just the first two rounds of his first draft. you can make those meaningless arguments for every round of every year for every gm gm in the league. the reality is, dave nonis drafted more nhl players in his first year as gm (going off burke's notes according to you, though as assistant gm nonis was heavily involved in the draft) than mike gillis did in his 6 years here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I guess 29 other GM's in the league must be dumber than some of the posters in this thread when they voted Gillis GM of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I dont understand the gillis hate here... I, for one, think he did a great job here.... I respectfully disagree .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseBlue Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Gm-ing is more than trades and drafting you know... But sure you can disagree and im ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson-JH Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Don't forget, he picked Horvat, Shinkiruk, Eriksson, Gaunce, and Jordan Subban they could be the best picks from Gillis in a few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Show me someone who is mistake free and I will show you someone who has never tried a damn thing challenging in their life .. you who are afraid to fail will NEVER achieve bugger all .. only the brave accept failure and learn from it, for failure is inevitable if you are strong enough to 'dare'. .. I hope Gillis gets a GM job and win's a Cup .. just to shut up the haters .. well not shut em up .. more like channel them and their collective 'spite' somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Don't forget, he picked Horvat, Shinkiruk, Eriksson, Gaunce, and Jordan Subban they could be the best picks from Gillis in a few years... eriksson wasn't a canucks draft pick, the odds are heavily against subban having a noteworthy nhl career, and the jury is very much still out on the other 3, having never played a regular season nhl game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 eriksson wasn't a canucks draft pick, the odds are heavily against subban having a noteworthy nhl career, and the jury is very much still out on the other 3, having never played a regular season nhl game. You could say the same thing about Burke and Nonis draft picks as well as every GM's picks. Unless the pick is a Crosby, Toews, Malkin, Ovie, Stamkos, Kane, everything else is a crapshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I dont understand the gillis hate here... I, for one, think he did a great job here....For like a year. He's the sole reason why we plummetted down the standings over the last couple years. Piss poor trades and drafting will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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