Phil_314 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/06/30-thoughts-nhl-free-agents-reluctant-to-commit-early.html 4. One team that has definitely made an offer? Vancouver. I believe it included their first pick in this draft (which is sixth overall) and Hunter Shinkaruk, who was taken 24th in 2013. There was at least one other piece, probably off the main roster, but I can't pin it down. It's not Ryan Kesler, who won't go there. If Kesler goes to Pittsburgh, I'd deal either the D-prospect likely to come back in the deal instead of Shink. Going forward the team could use the offensive help Hunter brings up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Gaunce Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 LOL its not one for one genius. Wow really? I had no idea. Thank you so much man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!1!1!111! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vancouver Connection Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 i would trade hunter and the 6th in a heartbeat for #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm sure Florida wants to trade the 1st about as much as we want to trade the 6th and Shink.. but the positives outweigh the negatives. reality is that he hasn't played in a crucial year of development, and we don't know how well he will recover. If that's the offer they want, i'd take it. Reinhart is a can't miss prospect, he's not a superstar on crosby or stamkos' level, but with him and Horvat down the middle, i feel much more confident in our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 if the canucks hypothetically get the 24th in a kesler trade with anaheim, i wonder if tallon would value that pick as highly or moreso than shinkaruk, who was drafted 24th overall himself. tallon might prefer the option of choosing his own prospect, since he's seemed to draft better than the canucks, but due to the fact 2013 was deeper than 2014 by all accounts maybe shinkaruk is better than any player that would be available at 24 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Yeah, it has to be a 3 way trade involving Kesler and our 6th overall (or not) going out and the 1st + coming back. If we plan on replacing our top 6 core in the next 5 years, then including Shinkaruk is counter productive. If Kesler is leaving anyway, then we need to use his value to acquire the 1st overall if that is our target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Chili Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 So apparently Jets are pushing hard for 1st overall..speculated package around 9th + byfuglien+ or even evander kane might be in play. Might be a bidding war, hopefully canucks stay put at 6th + tanev + something small and not try to outbid the jets. It could end up being a big overpayment when its all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I think the only way I'd be ok with trading Shinkaruk is if we're packaging him for Evander Kane. To Vancouver: Emerson Etem, 10th & 24th overall To Anaheim: Ryan Kesler then for Kane: To Vancouver: Evander Kane To Winnipeg: Hunter Shinkaruk, Emerson Etem, 2014 10th overall then for the 1st: To Vancouver: 2014 1st overall To Florida: Chris Tanev, 2014 6th & 24th overall We walk out of the draft with Kane and Reinhart. Pretty reasonable IMO but that's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 So apparently Jets are pushing hard for 1st overall..speculated package around 9th + byfuglien+ or even evander kane might be in play. Might be a bidding war, hopefully canucks stay put at 6th + tanev + something small and not try to outbid the jets. It could end up being a big overpayment when its all said and done. George Richards ✔ @GeorgeRichards Follow #FlaPanthers Tallon says he doesn't want to drop any farther than eighth in the first round. Let the rumors begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Ekblad appears to be the franchise player that this team needs now. He will slot right into the lineup and make one top - 4 d man redundant. Give up a pick,Shink and roster player for a franchise , puck-moving d man. JB does this deal in a heartbeat. Ekblad is a physical beast, two way or defensive defenseman. Who is at the top end of mobility for a big guy and has a booming shot. I have to admit I CRAVE that. Somewhere between Seabrook and Weber. But thats not a puck moving D man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Chili Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 George Richards ✔ @GeorgeRichards Follow #FlaPanthers Tallon says he doesn't want to drop any farther than eighth in the first round. Let the rumors begin. If evander kane is in play , you can bet tallon changes his mind on that...also nylander/ehlers are at bottom 10 of top ten on mackenzie's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 If the roster player is Hansen, then Benning does that trade. I know everyone is excited about Shinkaruk's skill level, but when you compare it to Reinhart's it's not even close. The 6th overall pick is also very uncertain to be a slam dunk as well. I think the odds of drafting a third liner or a bust are much higher than drafting at star in this draft. And if this is the closest we're going to get to drafting a franchise player, we better make sure we get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Remember when Colorado rejected 3 first round picks from Calgary for the 1st overall pick.? Yeah, Shinkaruk and the 6th isn't enough. Shinkaruk + Hansen + 6th + a C-level prospect could maybe draw some interest depending on how badly Tallon wants to throw away a potential franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Remember when Colorado rejected 3 first round picks from Calgary for the 1st overall pick.? Yeah, Shinkaruk and the 6th isn't enough. Shinkaruk + Hansen + 6th + a C-level prospect could maybe draw some interest depending on how badly Tallon wants to throw away a potential franchise player. Mackinnon>>>Reinhart/Ekblad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Mackinnon>>>Reinhart/Ekblad Monahan>>>Ehlers/Nylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I say no now. im REALLY excited about shinkaruk. I wamt to see the kid play before we let him go. Pleaassssse god no!! That kid is going to light the lamp in the nhl. I would put my paycheque on him scoring 50 goals at least once in his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Monahan>>>Ehlers/Nylander Too early for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Too early for that. Not at all. They aren't in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Too early for that. No it really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I would put my paycheque on him scoring 50 goals at least once in his career Please stop overhyping our prospects. Look at the players that have score 50 in the last 5 years. Does Shinkaruk really compare to them? Once people realize that most prospects don't reach their potential, then you can realize that acquiring a 1st overall is huge for a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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