Me_ Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 1 minute ago, Positive Canuck said: probably stuck watching hamhuis higgins and weber for the rest of my life Hey I've been an advocate for trading Hamhuis and Higgins. The team has surpassed them. With Hamhuis, it is not a matter of if but when he gets injured; I thought he was done against Dallas. With Higgins, "you know what you're gonna get"; a serviceable and consistent defensive specialist with an extremely inconsistent scoring spurt, followed by a dry spell that rivals the Sahara; every year he works his way up to the second line and instantly dries up. Weber is a very good, cheap 6-7D who can be perfectly relied upon at that position but degrades fast in efficiency if counted up as a 4D and above. For me, it's time to trade Higgins and Vrbata at the trade deadline for sure, and either package Hamhuis now for good returns, possibly a young defenseman, or gamble that Hamhuis won't get injured between now and the trade deadline and get a hefty return based on the Olympian's pedigree alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I don't know what you see in Dorsett. He passed to the other team on a break away yesterday, never hits anymore, and fights absolutely everybody that asks him with no consideration what effect it will have on the game. Young guy needs to make a name, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, old guy needs to show he'll still go, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, Canucks score 2 quick goals, other team need momentum shift, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight. He is an angry little man too willing to show HE is tough enough. I'd keep Cracker and Prust over Dorsett any day. The opposite can be said for Sven, no grit, never wins a puck battle, shoots muffins. I might keep Dorsett over Sven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 27 minutes ago, lmm said: I don't know what you see in Dorsett. He passed to the other team on a break away yesterday, never hits anymore, and fights absolutely everybody that asks him with no consideration what effect it will have on the game. Young guy needs to make a name, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, old guy needs to show he'll still go, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, Canucks score 2 quick goals, other team need momentum shift, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight. He is an angry little man too willing to show HE is tough enough. I'd keep Cracker and Prust over Dorsett any day. The opposite can be said for Sven, no grit, never wins a puck battle, shoots muffins. I might keep Dorsett over Sven. Shoots muffins!!! AWE.SOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 14 hours ago, Me_ said: Shoots muffins!!! AWE.SOME. Yes funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Canuck Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 18 hours ago, lmm said: I don't know what you see in Dorsett. He passed to the other team on a break away yesterday, never hits anymore, and fights absolutely everybody that asks him with no consideration what effect it will have on the game. Young guy needs to make a name, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, old guy needs to show he'll still go, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight, Canucks score 2 quick goals, other team need momentum shift, tap Dorse on the shoulder- fight. He is an angry little man too willing to show HE is tough enough. I'd keep Cracker and Prust over Dorsett any day. The opposite can be said for Sven, no grit, never wins a puck battle, shoots muffins. I might keep Dorsett over Sven. Trade as many Higgins,Burrows,Vrbata,Edler,Hamhuis,Weber as possible. I'd keep Prust over Higgins, Sven and Dorsett and sign Lucic. Prust and Lucic please Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 27/06/2014, 21:34:08, DeNiro said: No I'm not. I specifically said I think Hansen is on the way out with the acquisition of Dorsett. Hansen out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamth Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 6/27/2014, 9:28:51, DeNiro said: Assuming Tanev gets around 2.5 mil, Kassian gets 1.5, and Hansen is on his way out (Dorsett makes him expendable IMO), we have roughly 14 million to spend on two roster spots. We obviously have holes in our top 6 and on D, so what is the best way to spend this money? Does Benning sign a goalie? What are some options people like? Statsny? Bolland? Boyle? Niskanen? Iginla? Richards? FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Zack Kassian ($1.500m) Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.863m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($0.894m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) Ronalds Kenins ($0.680m) /DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Chris Tanev ($2.500m) Frank Corrado ($0.591m) / Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) /GOALTENDERS Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m)BUYOUTS David Booth ($0.000m) Keith Ballard ($0.000m)RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit) Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%)BONUS OVERAGE $0------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,436,944; BONUSES: $1,103,333CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $14,563,056 i wouldnt even touch Hansen, how about Miller.... Even Barks is a better option who is slow and almost Useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 29/11/2015, 12:19:00, Positive Canuck said: I'm hoping next years team looks like this Sedin-Sedin-Boeser Lucic-R.Johansen-Virtanen Shinkaruk-McCann-Hansen Gaunce-Horvat-Grenier Prust,Cracknell Edler-Buff Hutton-Tanev Tryamkin-Pedan Tinordi-Subban Markstrom Demko That's some very wishful thinking. What a team we would have if we could get all those guys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 5 hours ago, Positive Canuck said: Trade as many Higgins,Burrows,Vrbata,Edler,Hamhuis,Weber as possible. I'd keep Prust over Higgins, Sven and Dorsett and sign Lucic. Prust and Lucic please Benning. I honestly don't get the love affair over getting Lucic. On a good team, he's a second liner. Yay he's physical and a local boy. He's going to easily command more than $7 mil on the open market and likely get a gigantic amount of term on that contract. If he WERE to sign in Vancouver, that contract will be so regrettable. Especially when Virtanen gets as good as he's going to. How good would Raffi Torres be if he hit clean and had more offensive upside? It would make him one of the most coveted forwards in the NHL. THAT is what we have in Virtanen. Do we really want a guy like Lucic teaching Virtanen how to play hockey the right way?! Excuse me while I throw up in my mouth. The way he carries himself is not how we want Virtanen to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: I honestly don't get the love affair over getting Lucic. On a good team, he's a second liner. Yay he's physical and a local boy. He's going to easily command more than $7 mil on the open market and likely get a gigantic amount of term on that contract. If he WERE to sign in Vancouver, that contract will be so regrettable. Especially when Virtanen gets as good as he's going to. How good would Raffi Torres be if he hit clean and had more offensive upside? It would make him one of the most coveted forwards in the NHL. THAT is what we have in Virtanen. Do we really want a guy like Lucic teaching Virtanen how to play hockey the right way?! Excuse me while I throw up in my mouth. The way he carries himself is not how we want Virtanen to be. It all depends on what the contract is. 7 mill seems like a huge stretch for Lucic, even a desperate team wouldn't be that crazy. I agree with you that Lucic would be a terrible mentor for Virtanen. Prust has taken Virtanen under his wing, and I think he's done great with the young rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks-4-Life Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 With Lucic's attitude, I doubt he would perform well in Vancouver. I could see him developing some bad habits playing at home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I hate this thread. Who ever brought this from the dead needs to be kicked in the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 5 hours ago, Canucks Prophet said: It all depends on what the contract is. 7 mill seems like a huge stretch for Lucic, even a desperate team wouldn't be that crazy. I agree with you that Lucic would be a terrible mentor for Virtanen. Prust has taken Virtanen under his wing, and I think he's done great with the young rookie. I fully agree with you. Problem is, he is already making 6 and is in his prime now. I can honestly see him getting 7 for 7 years and it makes me shudder. Lucic is good, but there hass to be someone better out there who could help Virtanen along. Anyone up for acquiring Iginla?! I still have been dying to see him play with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 28 June 2014 at 05:28:51, DeNiro said: Assuming Tanev gets around 2.5 mil, Kassian gets 1.5, and Hansen is on his way out (Dorsett makes him expendable IMO), we have roughly 14 million to spend on two roster spots. We obviously have holes in our top 6 and on D, so what is the best way to spend this money? Does Benning sign a goalie? What are some options people like? Statsny? Bolland? Boyle? Niskanen? Iginla? Richards? FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Zack Kassian ($1.500m) Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Nicklas Jensen ($0.863m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($0.894m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) Ronalds Kenins ($0.680m) /DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Chris Tanev ($2.500m) Frank Corrado ($0.591m) / Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) /GOALTENDERS Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m)BUYOUTS David Booth ($0.000m) Keith Ballard ($0.000m)RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit) Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%)BONUS OVERAGE $0------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,436,944; BONUSES: $1,103,333CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $14,563,056 You cut me up with your pronouncements DN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 That OP ended up being so far away from our actual roster - six forwards, four D and a goalie out of 23. In hindsight, the roster we have is significantly better than the OP's suggestion - that to me shows GMJB is doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamth Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 time to leave the arena emty strip Miller kick him out of Canucks grrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 On November 30, 2015 at 2:17:42 AM, Noseforthenet said: I fully agree with you. Problem is, he is already making 6 and is in his prime now. I can honestly see him getting 7 for 7 years and it makes me shudder. Lucic is good, but there hass to be someone better out there who could help Virtanen along. Anyone up for acquiring Iginla?! I still have been dying to see him play with the Sedins. If Lucic was that great he'd still be playing in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 16 hours ago, Adamth said: time to leave the arena emty strip Miller kick him out of Canucks grrrrrrrrrrrr What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 7 minutes ago, clutesi said: If Lucic was that great he'd still be playing in Boston. What about Boychuk? Campbell? Thomas? Seguin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/1/2015 at 1:26 PM, PhillipBlunt said: What about Boychuk? Campbell? Thomas? Seguin? What about them? Players get released for all kinds of reasons, Boychuk was expensive, Thomas was old, Seguin was partying. But Lucic is supposedly in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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