LOL_dre Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok so for all of you preaching the need for guys like Sestito, Marc Savard will never play pro hockey again. He played on the big bad Bruins with Lucic, Thornton, McQuade, Chara and many others who are considered though and they couldn't prevent Matt Cooke from taking out their best player. So how would Sestito prevent someone from doing the same thing the Henrik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok so for all of you preaching the need for guys like Sestito, Marc Savard will never play pro hockey again. He played on the big bad Bruins with Lucic, Thornton, McQuade, Chara and many others who are considered though and they couldn't prevent Matt Cooke from taking out their best player. So how would Sestito prevent someone from doing the same thing the Henrik? It would help if Sestito could catch a guy on his own, but he can't. Our best wingnut to put out there is Kassian. But i'd rather just have the team not play goon hockey. It's a waste of time and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ostensibly? You know you are on CDC right? Anyhow, Sestito and Dorsett are interchangeable pieces. I could live without both.No Dorsett is marginally better. He can penalty kill a little bit if we need him to. Sestito is a total liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Kinda sucks we had to let him go. Sign a bargain guy to be your 13th forward and a couple months in he's on pace for 50 points lol I understand why we let him walk but we probably coulda kept the guy over any of our bottom six and been a slightly better team. Haha Good on him though for continuing that success in Toronto. He's going to get better opportunities there than he would here.Not sure why we traded for Vey when we could've just kept this guy around and acheive better results. WD needs a few of his boys around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Kinda sucks we had to let him go. Sign a bargain guy to be your 13th forward and a couple months in he's on pace for 50 points lol I understand why we let him walk but we probably coulda kept the guy over any of our bottom six and been a slightly better team. Haha Good on him though for continuing that success in Toronto. He's going to get better opportunities there than he would here. Yup. Its debateable whether Vey can match what Santo was bringing. Short term, as in this year anyway. Santo's ultimate contract of $1.5 for 1 year was also easily manageable. Not sure why we traded for Vey when we could've just kept this guy around and acheive better results. WD needs a few of his boys around? He is younger. I suppose the theory is more upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Forgot Corrado is still with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicCop Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 It would help if Sestito could catch a guy on his own, but he can't. Our best wingnut to put out there is Kassian. But i'd rather just have the team not play goon hockey. It's a waste of time and energy. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Not sure why we traded for Vey when we could've just kept this guy around and acheive better results. WD needs a few of his boys around? Because Santorelli is almost 29 and Vey is only 23. Isn't that obvious? We're building for the next 5 years, not to be a contender this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Because Santorelli is almost 29 and Vey is only 23. Isn't that obvious? We're building for the next 5 years, not to be a contender this year. No more obvious than drafting McKeown with the pick could have helped us 5 years from now. As we are much weaker in our defensive pool than at centre. As armchair GM I would have signed Santorelli for 2 to 3 years. To tide us over till our own prospects were groomed. The only definitively obvious thing was JB and those who had input liked Vey. And they made that call. So now we cheer for Vey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 No more obvious than drafting McKeown with the pick could have helped us 5 years from now. As we are much weaker in our defensive pool than at centre. As armchair GM I would have signed Santorelli for 2 to 3 years. To tide us over till our own prospects were groomed. The only definitively obvious thing was JB and those who had input liked Vey. And they made that call. So now we cheer for Vey... Vey is more proven as an asset than McKeown. I agree that we need defensive depth, but I trust Benning enough that if he doesn't see enough in McKeown to take him, then Vey is much more valuable. We aren't that strong at center anymore really. Sure we've got Horvat, McCann, Gaunce and Cassels, but none of those guys are guaranteed to be top 6 players at this point. Vey has proven himself at every level but the NHL, and has shown to have the offensive instincts of a top 6 center. Still lots of room for improvement too. I'm happy with Vey, and I'm sure our defensive depth will be shored up in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ostensibly? You know you are on CDC right? Anyhow, Sestito and Dorsett are interchangeable pieces. I could live without both. Are they though? Dorsett can actually take a PK shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Vey is more proven as an asset than McKeown. I agree that we need defensive depth, but I trust Benning enough that if he doesn't see enough in McKeown to take him, then Vey is much more valuable. We aren't that strong at center anymore really. Sure we've got Horvat, McCann, Gaunce and Cassels, but none of those guys are guaranteed to be top 6 players at this point. Vey has proven himself at every level but the NHL, and has shown to have the offensive instincts of a top 6 center. Still lots of room for improvement too. I'm happy with Vey, and I'm sure our defensive depth will be shored up in time. Yes Vey looks viable, more advanced and does have upside. I suppose as some of our forwards start to come on board we may truly have too much depth up front. At some point anyway? At that point a trade from strength, for a D man, is also a possibility. Too bad we don't get to see guys like Tryamkin, or Hutton, at camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Jason Botchford @botchford Corrado still about 5-6 days from being healthy enough to play. Got caught from behind in the yotes game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thLineGrinder Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 if the seven games of pre-season were a playoff series we would have advanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 We need someone to play the role of 14th forward. That's Sestito to a tee. If Dorsett goes down then we might want him in the lineup against certain matches. We will have other bodies, and Jensen to call up, if we need top 9 help. At some point this season we will probably have injuries to 3-5 forwards at a time. We may very well see a 4th line of Archie-Lain-Sestito at some point. Brace yourself for it. If they can play 6-8 minutes while we heal then they will have done their job over a long season. ok, this is one of the more convincing arguments for keeping Sestito around, and this is coming from a moderate anti-Tito-er. but he needs -needsneedsNEEDS- to cut out the antics. slot into the lineup when necessary and, as you say, play 6-8 a night, focusing on his positioning and the timing of his hits/scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Jason Botchford @botchford Corrado still about 5-6 days from being healthy enough to play. Got caught from behind in the yotes game Botched plays captain obvious again... Hey buddy, we get our news before you do, stop posting to your twitter account immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 if the seven games of pre-season were a playoff series we would have advanced We wouldn't have even played tonight because it was 4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicCop Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Vey is more proven as an asset than McKeown. I agree that we need defensive depth, but I trust Benning enough that if he doesn't see enough in McKeown to take him, then Vey is much more valuable. We aren't that strong at center anymore really. Sure we've got Horvat, McCann, Gaunce and Cassels, but none of those guys are guaranteed to be top 6 players at this point. Vey has proven himself at every level but the NHL, and has shown to have the offensive instincts of a top 6 center. Still lots of room for improvement too. I'm happy with Vey, and I'm sure our defensive depth will be shored up in time. No more obvious than drafting McKeown with the pick could have helped us 5 years from now. As we are much weaker in our defensive pool than at centre. As armchair GM I would have signed Santorelli for 2 to 3 years. To tide us over till our own prospects were groomed. The only definitively obvious thing was JB and those who had input liked Vey. And they made that call. So now we cheer for Vey... The report was that Santorelli was asking more from Vancouver than what he eventually took. Really though I think Vey was Benning's chance to fill a void in the system. 23 year old NHL ready forward with upside. Beyond Kassian there was a barren desert in the depth chart for players (especially forwards) in that age group that could make an impact anytime soon. Call it jumpstarting the rebuild, or whatever you will really, Vey was a great acquisition by Benning. Santo played really well last year before the injury but it just didn't work, Vey really is about the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOWnuxFAN Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No more obvious than drafting McKeown with the pick could have helped us 5 years from now. As we are much weaker in our defensive pool than at centre. As armchair GM I would have signed Santorelli for 2 to 3 years. To tide us over till our own prospects were groomed. The only definitively obvious thing was JB and those who had input liked Vey. And they made that call. So now we cheer for Vey... Dude, that's a really good point! I have to wonder if part of the mentality of letting Santo walk has to do with JB putting his own stamp on the team while trying to wash the bad taste of MG out of our mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancaesar Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Santorelli over Vey? Have you guys been watching Vey? He already looks as good as Santorelli and he's a 23 year old rookie. Sorry guys, but as much as I like Santo, Vey is far more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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