BanTSN Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 There's only a handful of teams who are legit buyers. Hawks are one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Very unlike Stan Bowman to panic. He knows they're not going to win another cup while Toews and Kan are on those ludicrous contracts starting next year so he's going all in now I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 If anything they did the right thing by trading their prospects cause they would have lost them at the end of the season. Us on the other hand traded away Forsling for Clendenning and might not even be able to sign him considering we our logjam at D. Why would they have lost their prospects? Oduya, Rozsval, and Timmonen are all UFAs at the end of the year and will not likely be re-signed. They're gonna need young D-men to step up. As for not signing Clendening, of course we will. Weber and Stanton will likely be gone. Hamhuis and Bieksa only have 1 more year after this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Chicago has no choice, their time is now. Kane and Toews' salaries are going to severely cripple their team in the next couple years, you can't stay a contender with cap hits like that in this salary world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFirstLine Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Chicago winning the cup this year. easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Chicago has no choice, their time is now. Kane and Toews' salaries are going to severely cripple their team in the next couple years, you can't stay a contender with cap hits like that in this salary world. You can if you have a crop of young players on ELC's that are ready to step in and fill the gaps. The argument I'm making right now. Does anyone really think the Hawks have a better shot at the cup than they have in previous years with their best scorer out for pretty much the rest of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Chicago winning the cup this year. easy Vermette definitely makes up for losing Kane... Chicago was in tough even with Kane in the lineup with Nashville, St.Louis and LA looking as good as they do. Take out their best scorer and their odds go way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 With so much money tied to Kane and Toews, Bowman knows the hawks will be mediocre for years. This is their last chance go ice an incredibly deep roster. They know what the consequences are, and I don't think they really care. I wouldn't be surprised if they win the cup this year. They'll survive a couple rounds without Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I think LA and the Hawks are going all in to try and win and show fans they want to win,but fully agree after this year they are so screwed less they are going to trade a big name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You can if you have a crop of young players on ELC's that are ready to step in and fill the gaps. The argument I'm making right now. Does anyone really think the Hawks have a better shot at the cup than they have in previous years with their best scorer out for pretty much the rest of the season? They have some good prospects coming, but not nearly enough to cover the depth they are going to lose in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Nice to see the former Champs in the West giving up their 1sts in this draft.Reminds me when we were the super power and gillis was giving away picks for rentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just watch, they will get a first back somehow. They just added two rentals and you're under the impression that they're now going to be selling? From whom and for what are they going to get a 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo.Horvat53 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Not good for the Hawks to trade 1st rounder. I would rather just roll the dice and see how far the Hawks can go without P.Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 They have some good prospects coming, but not nearly enough to cover the depth they are going to lose in the next couple years. Which is why they shouldn't be giving them away. If you look at what they were able to do after their first cup win, it was pretty impressive. They were able to restock with young players and go for it again. If they have Kane, sure go all in. I just don't see how it makes sense at this point. Taking Kane out is like when we lost Daniel going into the 2012 playoffs. They won't be nearly the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Benning this is a sign. we should be sellers instead of doing nothingAs long as we aren't buyers. The prices are goofy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan90 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Lol all the good teams are stacking up...there's no way Canucks pass the 1st round. They shouldn't bother being buyers on Monday. They should sell as much as they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks-12 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hawks easily win this deal. Dahlbeck isn't that great and a late 1st rounder. Canes got a 1st and a prospect for Sekera. Hawks didn't give up much for Vermette. Steal for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Chicago's center core looks better than it did in 2013, Toews/Richards/Vermette/Kruger. Their D looks just as good if Oduya's back by the playoffs (maybe even better depending on how Timonen does and if Rundblad can do better than Leddy). The only thing is how will they do without Kane? Sharp's not doing as well this year, but Saad's doing better. Versteeg has done pretty well, but being on the powerplay with Kane probably helps. Teravinen is still getting use to the NHL. Hard to say, they'll definitely be leaning more on their defensive game this time around. Forsling has potential, but lets be realistic, he's a long shot to make the NHL. Clendening is in the NHL and playing quite solidly. Oduya is 32, Rozsival is 35, and Timmonen is 39. They just dumped 3 NHL ready D-men under the age of 25 in the last two weeks. Not to mention their first 2 picks in a very deep draft. It's gonna come back to bite them, just wait and see. I personally think their D will be fine. They're good at developing in Chicago and even without the 3 you mentioned they'll have Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Rundblad, and whoever they'll use for the 3rd pairing. It's not like LA has/had a spectacular D core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hawks easily win this deal. Dahlbeck isn't that great and a late 1st rounder. Canes got a 1st and a prospect for Sekera. Hawks didn't give up much for Vermette. Steal for Chicago. Haha. Yea real steal there. Saying "it's just a late first" completely ignores how deep this draft is supposed to be. Sekera is 28 and a top 4 defenseman that LA will probably re-sign. Vermette is a 32 year old pending UFA that Chicago probably won't re-sign. Huge difference. Steal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I personally think their D will be fine. They're good at developing in Chicago and even without the 3 you mentioned they'll have Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Rundblad, and whoever they'll use for the 3rd pairing. It's not like LA has/had a spectacular D core. Even if that's true, young D-men are assets that can be used to acquire other young assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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