Junkyard Dog Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Darth Kane said: As a Hawks fan do you feel Pokka is expenable with Forsling right behind him and 3 defenseman(TVR, Svedberg, Gustafsson) 24 or younger already on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, the_impersonator13 said: Farhan trying to make a name for himself as usual. No one else from what I see reporting this. He ought to go back as a high school football water boy Farhan in an idiot. I remember hearing him on TSN1040 a while back bashing Blackhawks fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, VIC_CITY said: Plus minus is a useless stat. Period. To say Bo Horvat is bad defensively because he's -30 would be like saying Felix Hernandez was an average pitcher in 2010 because he had a record of 13 wins 12 losses. In case you didn't know, he won the Cy Young that year. +/- is not a useless stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, peaches5 said: I didn't cherry pick anything. I compared Horvat to other 20 year olds in the league who are projected to be first line centre's. They are much better offensively than he is. Are you seriously arguing that Bo isn't close to the top of the heap for his age group/draft class? Like you said, true first line centres don't grow on trees, but neither do Bo Horvats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, peaches5 said: +/- is not a useless stat. Marek Malik...is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PhillipBlunt Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Darth Kane said: Farhan in an idiot. I remember hearing him on TSN1040 a while back bashing Blackhawks fans. There's not much that Canucks and Hawks fans agree on, but I will second that emotion. If I'm not mistaken, he's the Dean of Academics at Assclown University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: As a Hawks fan do you feel Pokka is expenable with Forsling right behind him and 3 defenseman(TVR, Svedberg, Gustafsson) 24 or younger already on the roster. Pokka is a quality prospect and I'd had to see him go, but you have to give up quality to get quality in return. You're right, with the emergence of TvR, Gustafsson and Svedberg I think Pokka becomes expendable. I think Pokka could be better than Gustafsson and Svedberg in the long run, but that may be a year or two away. I know Bowman is high on Forsling, but I think he's a few years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: +/- is not a useless stat. Agreed. The top teams tend to have most of their players as plus guys. The bottom teams it's the opposite. Weren't our guys really big pluses in the top seasons - like 2009-2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Lalji is such an absolute attention seeking turdball. do you not know how his job works? He goes quiet, he's out of a job. Of course he's trying to make a name for himself. He's an analyst/insider of colour in a Canadian market that obsesses over trading. Hamhuis moving is, believe it or not, a pretty big deal and its right in his jurisdiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, nergish said: Are you seriously arguing that Bo isn't close to the top of the heap for his age group/draft class? Like you said, true first line centres don't grow on trees, but neither do Bo Horvats... Are you kidding me? There is a big difference between Horvat and Mackinnon/Barkov. You would be out of your mind to turn down a trade for Horvat + for either one of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 If Hammer is gonna waive to go anywhere for four months, I don't see why Chicago wouldn't be at the top of his list. He said earlier he would want to play for a contender, there yeah go. Plus, some former Olympics squad teammates in Toews and Keith...potentally being moved with a current teammate Vrbata. Go win a cup and come back, Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: There's not much that Canucks and Hawks fans agree on, but I will second that emotion. If I'm not mistaken, he's the Dean of Academics at Assclown University. Sounds like he would be a good fit for the position of Chair of UBC Board of Governors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, peaches5 said: Are you kidding me? There is a big difference between Horvat and Mackinnon/Barkov. You would be out of your mind to turn down a trade for Horvat + for either one of those two. There really isn't man... I would trade Bo + for Nathan because he may be the only kid in recent drafts with even more heart. Otherwise maybe Seth Jones. That's literally it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Agreed. I wouldn't trade Bo for Barkov 1 for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Agreed. The top teams tend to have most of their players as plus guys. The bottom teams it's the opposite. Weren't our guys really big pluses in the top seasons - like 2009-2012? Yea so why didn't Barkov and Mackinnon have -30 years then? Not like the Panthers didn't win the lottery with Barkov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Apparently.... Weber AND Cracknell are being told to do full pre-game prep rather than be expected to be scratched. Maybe just precautionary...could be a gametime injury decision too... but that's unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think the Hawks will pay a pretty penny to get rid of Bickels contract and land Vrbata and Hammer. Something like Pokka, 1st and possibly a conditional 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Quote Bob mockenzie thinks its TT + 1st + pokka for hamhuis ,vrbata and subban I just saw this little tidbit from the hfboard thread. please let this be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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