higgyfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: Is this guy one more hit away from being done? My concern that he is one more hit away from being far worse than done in hockey. I sure hope his medical advisors know what they are doing and that they are clear about future potential head injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: Was just reading his thoughts on his setbacks and lack of progress. He might not be back at all. It would be very sad to see him retire, but it would be far worse to see the results of yet another hit to the head. He's fought so hard to get well, but it seems the rate of progress is not good. How very frustrating for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, higgyfan said: It would be very sad to see him retire, but it would be far worse to see the results of yet another hit to the head. He's fought so hard to get well, but it seems the rate of progress is not good. How very frustrating for him. Is there a new update. He was on the road trip and practicing with the team in non contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, mll said: Is there a new update. He was on the road trip and practicing with the team in non contact. 47 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: Was just reading his thoughts on his setbacks and lack of progress. He might not be back at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, chilliwiggins said: I must have had a seizure. I didn't know he was with the team The Nucks hold their cards tight to the vest when it comes to injury updates, so it can be difficult to keep up. Regardless, the concern for his long term health is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: I must have had a seizure. I didn't know he was with the team Alf has meds for that. Well, not for that exactly, but they work ‘real good’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: If I'm the G.M. of the Canucks, I'm wanting to wash my hands of this, via a trade once healthy if in fact he has suffered measurable Brain Damage. Yeah, I don't know that anyone would want that on their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 hours ago, chilliwiggins said: If I'm the G.M. of the Canucks, I'm wanting to wash my hands of this, via a trade once healthy if in fact he has suffered measurable Brain Damage. They did that with Mitchell when they wouldn't resign him. I thought it was the classy thing to do and yet Willie went on to 2 CUPs and played another what 5 years. It doesn't mean he won't have trouble later. I have looked at the video of Baer being hit a few times. It simply does not look that bad of a hit. Maybe I am missing something. His reaction when he came up from the ice was a pissed off one. We can only assume that he is getting top notch medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Boudrias said: They did that with Mitchell when they wouldn't resign him. I thought it was the classy thing to do and yet Willie went on to 2 CUPs and played another what 5 years. It doesn't mean he won't have trouble later. I have looked at the video of Baer being hit a few times. It simply does not look that bad of a hit. Maybe I am missing something. His reaction when he came up from the ice was a pissed off one. We can only assume that he is getting top notch medical advice. He's been going through the concussion protocol for almost 2 months now. Combined with 4 previous concussions, I'd say his chances of a complete recovery isn't great. Crosby still complains of symptoms now and again, so I guess it's and individual choice. Personally, I don't think a few years of NHL hockey is worth risking one's future brain health. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, higgyfan said: He's been going through the concussion protocol for almost 2 months now. Combined with 4 previous concussions, I'd say his chances of a complete recovery isn't great. Crosby still complains of symptoms now and again, so I guess it's and individual choice. Personally, I don't think a few years of NHL hockey is worth risking one's future brain health. Demko's concussion was just as bad - he said there were days where he thought it would never get better and yet he is back playing. He also admitted to several concussions without giving the number. Roussel had similar symptoms to Baertschi and said it wasn't his 1st but didn't know how many he had. Both went to see that same specialist in Detroit. Edited December 16, 2018 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, mll said: Demko's concussion was just as bad - he said there were days where he thought it would never get better and yet he is back playing. He also admitted to several concussions without giving the number. Roussel had similar symptoms to Baertschi and said it wasn't his 1st but didn't know how many he had. Both went to see that same specialist in Detroit. I'm just a hockey fan and know very little about brain injuries. I do know that there have been many players (in all contact sports) throughout the years that have suffered dearly; both physically and emotionally from these concussion. I hope you're right, mil. Only the future knows for sure and she ain't telling us nothin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, mll said: Demko's concussion was just as bad - he said there were days where he thought it would never get better and yet he is back playing. He also admitted to several concussions without giving the number. Roussel had similar symptoms to Baertschi and said it wasn't his 1st but didn't know how many he had. Both went to see that same specialist in Detroit. Ummmmm. You say what? You know how someone else's concussion was? k. GCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, higgyfan said: I'm just a hockey fan and know very little about brain injuries. I do know that there have been many players (in all contact sports) throughout the years that have suffered dearly; both physically and emotionally from these concussion. I hope you're right, mil. Only the future knows for sure and she ain't telling us nothin'. That specialist better be right - he has treated numerous athletes. I hope that no team would put a player's health at risk especially now that teams/players are more informed of the lasting effects of brain injuries. Too many players don't want to admit they were concussed and try to play through it - McAvoy being a recent example. Baertschi sounds well aware that he can't return before being fully healthy and Green has mentioned early on that they will be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 40 minutes ago, canuckledraggin said: Ummmmm. You say what? You know how someone else's concussion was? k. GCG. No one can know what a player is going through whether Baertschi, Demko or Roussel. Their description to media sounded just as concerning as what Baer described. Demko to Brough, behind the Athletic's paywall: "Couple times it was pretty scary, maybe having symptoms a couple days in a row, your mind starts to wander into worst case scenario." He talked of good days/bad days alternating and how he felt at times that he would never recover. Roussel told Kuzma in the Province that he experienced dizziness, headaches and sensitivity to light after skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Quote Baertschi (concussion) participated in Saturday's morning skate, Jeff Paterson of TSN 1040 Vancouver. Baertschi slowly continues to make progress, but was practicing in a non-contact jersey, meaning his return isn't imminent. He's missed the last 24 games, and it appears the Canucks aren't going to rush him back prematurely. It's safe to rule him out for Saturday's game with Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, NHL'er said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, TNucks1 said: At least he's back skating! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I would shut him down until the New Year at this point. He and Sutter can come back together. I think the Canucks will need to make a move prior to them returning. Wonder if that's why we are hearing the Burakovsky rumors. Goldobin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, NHL'er said: At least he's back skating! Third time he has been back skating - first time he didn't have to shut it down pretty well immediately. Hopefully this time is a better go of it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: Third time he has been back skating - first time he didn't have to shut it down pretty well immediately. Hopefully this time is a better go of it for him. Third time back skating is better than third time not back skating! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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