DeNiro Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Call them the House. The house always wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiogooseface Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 This is stupid. Just relocate one of the failing teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillooet_Hillbilly Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 great, give a bunch of teens and young 20 year old's millions of dollars and make them live in "SIN CITY" and see what sort of gambling/drug problems happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lillooet_Hillbilly said: great, give a bunch of teens and young 20 year old's millions of dollars and make them live in "SIN CITY" and see what sort of gambling/drug problems happens. Cant be worse than edmonton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 8 hours ago, Provost said: According the Fanager he has a NTC and not a NMC. The only NMCs on the team are the Sedins. Okay. I wasn't sure. Then I am all for not protecting him if there are better options to protect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Lillooet_Hillbilly said: great, give a bunch of teens and young 20 year old's millions of dollars and make them live in "SIN CITY" and see what sort of gambling/drug problems happens. Hmmm What about Las Vegas Sin or Las Vegas Greed? Yeah those were WCW PPV's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 NHL mum on executive committee expansion meeting By Josh Cooper 14 hours ago Puck Daddy . View photo (Photo by Dave Sandford/NHLI via Getty Images) The NHL’s executive committee met in New York City on Tuesday without any further word on possible league expansion. NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly responded to an email from Puck Daddy and said there “won't be any announcements” on the matter from the executive committee meeting. It was reported beforehand that a recommendation in regards to how to proceed with expansion would be made in this meeting. In a news conference before the start of the Stanley Cup Final, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said the league could expand by one or two teams, defer expansion or decide that the NHL will not expand. Both Las Vegas and Quebec City are the two teams that are in this expansion process for the league. Both submitted official bids last July. An endorsement (if one was made) would go to the league’s Board of Governors for official approval when they meet on June 22 in Las Vegas in advance of the NHL Awards at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. A decision on expansion by the Board of Governors would require a 24 vote approval. ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun pointed out that a recommendation could end up on the NHL’s official agenda before the meeting in Las Vegas, but word on specifics of Tuesday’s executive committee meeting will be tight-lipped before then. The executive committee consists of owners from the Chicago Blackhawks, Tampa Bay Lightning, Toronto Maple Leafs, Boston Bruins, Calgary Flames, Carolina Hurricanes, Minnesota Wild, Anaheim Ducks and Washington Capitals. Bill Foley, who leads the Las Vegas expansion bid, has gone through all the necessary requirements to have a team ready for 2017-18. He has a beautiful new arena in the heart of the strip that’s ready for action. He has plans for a practice facility in Summerlin. He hit 14,000 season ticket deposits. The league is looking at a $500 million fee from each team if the NHL decides to expand. A decision now would mean the NHL would beat the NFL as far as being the first major North American sport to announce its entrance into the Las Vegas market. The Oakland Raiders could start play there as early as 2017 but the Raiders and the NFL haven’t come to an agreement on whether the franchise will move to Las Vegas. In February of 2015, the Las Vegas market started a ticket drive to prove to the NHL that they were worthy of an NHL franchise. At the time it was believed the NHL wanted to expand into Las Vegas and Seattle, but Seattle did not get in a bid at the deadline last July. Quebec City did. Since then the NHL has staunchly said Quebec City and Las Vegas were the only two teams in this process. Meanwhile a potential Seattle bid has been riddled with arena issues and doesn't seem to be a legit possibility at this moment. The league has been lukewarm on the Quebec City expansion bid and Quebecor chairman Brian Mulroney has continuously lowered expectations to his local fanbase. It’s believed the league would rather have Quebec City as a relocation spot in case a current franchise hits trouble. In the recent past the NHL relocated the Atlanta Thrashers to Winnipeg and that has paid dividends with a high level of fan support and stable ownership. The NHL has said it’s not worried about recent issues with the Carolina Hurricanes ownership, but having a ready-made market like Quebec City could help alleviate any potential trouble with the Hurricanes or other teams that could struggle in the next year or two. If the NHL adds one eastern team in Quebec City and one western team in Las Vegas, the league’s divisional alignment would still have problems. Currently there are currently 14 teams in the Western Conference and 16 teams in the Eastern Conference. “There are issues at 17 and 15 (teams) that I know are more difficult than 14 and 16,” Bettman said on Prime Time Sports in early June. “And I think that if you asked for example, Columbus or Detroit, who went East, they would not happily or be agreeable to moving back to the West.” The NHL has been preparing for expansion in 2017-18 for some time and have mostly agreed on draft rules for teams. The hope is that it will be the deepest expansion draft in NHL history so the new team can thrive early. Everything appears to be in place. All the league needs now is official word from owners. “It's been an ongoing process, as you can tell. There's a lot of different issues that are related to expansion and potential expansion. A lot of those issues aren't solely in either the applicant's control or the NHL's control. A lot necessarily involve input from third parties,” deputy commissioner Bill Daly said. “The timetable is what the timetable is. I think we've made really good progress, and that's why we hope to at least have more guidance by the 22nd of June. But it's not been a quick process certainly.” tl;dr The expansion committee voted yesterday on the bids by Las Vegas and Quebec but hasn't officially released the results (although I have read elsewhere that they voted to give Las Vegas a team). The next step will be to have the Las Vegas owner sign off on the endorsement, then the Board of Governors sill have to vote on it to make it official (they require 24 votes out of 30). Basically, the expansion to Las Vegas is not "a done deal" yet. Having said that, the vote will be June 22 prior to the NHL awards and will be held in, you guessed it, Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ahem.... And earlier before Broward County coughed up $86 mil... Vegas was always a done deal, I've been saying it for years. QC was not going to get an expansion franchise. They were always going to be a relocation. I could cite a lot more, and you're welcome to check for yourself, but I've been laying out this exact scenario for quite awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 23 hours ago, Toews said: IMO Tryamkin will almost certainly be exempt. I believe that by "pro season", they only mean pro seasons in North America. Hutton should be exempt as well as I doubt a handful of games in the AHL will count as 3 pro seasons. The protect list for D will likely be Edler, Tanev and Gudbranson The Canucks have absolutely nothing to worry about this expansion. There is not much of consequence that needs to be protected. I had hoped that Quebec could have been included in this draft as both teams will have slim pickings in this draft from the Canucks. Next expansion draft though the Canucks might have to expose some good players. If those games do count and he does have to be protected, that should mean Edler will be traded before the end of next season. I'd rather keep the younger d who are in our future plans. But with that being said we aren't going to be the only team with a good D that might be on the move due to the expansion rules. ANA, MIN, DET, FLA, NSH, NYI, SJ, STL, TB, WSH and WPG, Will all likely look to the trade market before leaving one of there solid top 4 D on the market. And a full market will on hurt the return value of a guy like Edler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 20 hours ago, Professor.of.Perception said: My guess is since Las Vegas is getting the expansion team and in the west, Carolina will be moved to Quebec in the coming year, and the next expansion team will be Seattle! Which would make the league's divisions and conference formations make a lot more sense, all while giving the more lucrative "new expansion team" conditions to the american markets. This is exactly what will happen now that Florida is out of the relocation race. The reasons, as I noted above from long ago, has less to do with the expansion team conditions than its has to do with marketing, which QC doesn't need to sell out. I would not be surprised if QC is in as early as this year, next at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prix57 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Not a fan of this at all. How much more diluted will the talent in the nhl get? Will the Vegas locals care much about having an nhl hockey team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 11:52 AM, MJDDawg said: Black Knights??? Oh God please NO!!!! What about something new like the Las Vegas Black Jacks or Las Vegas Straight Flush's? Wait, I have the perfect name that's both fresh and exciting... the Las Vegas Posse. What I think of when reading that team name: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: What I think of when reading that team name: Haha...It's only flesh wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Bettman was choked and livid Winnipeg got back into the league. He has no use for Canadian teams. Typical American attitude Canada is resource based and well face it hockey players are a resource. The NHL will move mountains to make Vegas succeed it will be a crown jewel to the powers that be. I think they feel it gives the league instant recognition in the eyes of the American sports fan. Doesn't hurt either to be located in the mecca of gambling for the sports world. Lawyers and bookies they go together well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16ToWin Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 On 2016-06-08 at 11:13 AM, prix57 said: Not a fan of this at all. How much more diluted will the talent in the nhl get? Will the Vegas locals care much about having an nhl hockey team? The draw of the crowds will not be from the locals. It will come from the millions of visitors that Vegas has to offer. Not that I see this as a good expansion from a hockey stand point, but from a business stand point , I think it a brilliant move. "The Vegas Odds" will make the league a ton of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Johnny Shotgun said: Bettman was choked and livid Winnipeg got back into the league. *Anxiously awaits source that "Johnny Shotgun" is sure not to have.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Monty said: *Anxiously awaits source that "Johnny Shotgun" is sure not to have.* Well he told you Winnipegers to support your club or lose it again. Nice comment to make while he's announcing the Jets return. You search the internet for his address to Winnipeg...I can't be bothered. Really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Johnny Shotgun said: Well he told you Winnipegers to support your club or lose it again. Nice comment to make while he's announcing the Jets return. You search the internet for his address to Winnipeg...I can't be bothered. Really don't care. Well, since it was your claim, I guess I'll do the work. *Monty leaves and goes 6 pages deep in Google, typing numerous variations to find* Oh, surprise surprise. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: Well, since it was your claim, I guess I'll do the work. *Monty leaves and goes 6 pages deep in Google, typing numerous variations to find* Oh, surprise surprise. Nothing. Well it was hardly an earthshaking address/comment so I'm not surprised Google or any other search engine would have it. Have it your way i just made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Johnny Shotgun said: Well it was hardly an earthshaking address/comment so I'm not surprised Google or any other search engine would have it. Any public comment that has been reported is ALWAYS tracked. Especially in the last decade. Quote Have it your way It's not me "having it my way". Disagreements based on "fact" isn't "having it anyone's way". Quote i just made it up. Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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