Olli Juolevi | #48 | D

[Rush17]

who got player of the game for Sweden?

[rekker]

Very good game for OJ. Just does his job. Nothing flashy. Gets pucks on net. He is coming along nicely. 

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

6 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

who got player of the game for Sweden?

Lias Andersson

[Rush17]

3 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Lias Andersson

Figured as much. Team captain with 2 big early goals.

[Rush17]

I shall patiently wait for the Juolevi shift by shift video! lol.  I want to watch what I missed in the first 2 periods.  I really enjoy watching Olli's hockey sense in his own D zone.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

10 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

Figured as much. Team captain with 2 big early goals.

Yeah, and he would’ve had the hat trick if that Swiss player hadn’t have scored the own goal off Pettersson’s setup. 

 

Andersson played great. Deserved the PotG nod. Dominik Egli for the Swiss.

 

And Joona Koppanen gets the honours for Finland. Alex Tamasi for Slovakia.

Edited December 30, 2017 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME
Autocorrect named Alex Tomasi (26yo Italian goalie) as the Slovak PotG.

[Ihatetomatoes]

Good game by Juolevi, Comes as advertised. Solid with the puck whether he is back being forechecked, making breakout passes, small passes in the neutral zone or making plays in the O zone or on the PP. 

 

You can notice how he has learned to use his size by getting body position on the boards and winning board battles, a few times he completely eliminated a forward on the boards allowing his teammates to grab the puck and go up the ice. Definitely NHL level defensive plays. 

 

One thing I would nitpick about his game that may limit his effectiveness as an NHL player is his footspeed. He doesn't seem to have a great first few steps. I noticed a few times how much slower he was when racing for a puck or that one time he almost got beat wide. He just doesn't really have quick feet, he's excellent at reading the play and getting to where he needs to be by using his elite hockey sense and smooth skating but when faced with scrambly play or needing to make quick movements he is a little slow. People like to compare him to Tanev but Tanev has much quicker feet and can get to where he needs to be a lot quicker.  

 

Liked his game though, just a solid overall game and if he has one weakness in my eyes in slightly slow feet.

Edited December 30, 2017 by Ihatetomatoes

[Rush17]

3 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said:

Good game by Juolevi, Comes as advertised. Solid with the puck whether he is back being forechecked, making breakout passes, small passes in the neutral zone or making plays in the O zone or on the PP. 

 

You can notice how he has learned to use his size by getting body on the boards and winning board battles, a few time he completely elimated a forward on the boards allowing his teammates to grab the puck and go up the ice. Definitely NHL level defensive plays. 

 

One thing I would nitpick about his game that may limit his effectiveness as an NHL player is his footspeed. He doesn't seem to have a great first few steps. I noticed a few times how much slower he was when racing for a puck or that one time he almost got beat wide. He just doesn't really have quick feet, he's excellent at reading the play and getting to where he needs to be by using his elite hockey sense and smooth skating but when faced with scrambly play or needing to make quick movements he is a little slow. People like to compare him to Tanev but Tanev has much quicker feet and can get to where he needs to be a lot quicker.  

 

Liked his game though, just a solid overall game and if he has one weakness in my eyes in slighly slow feet.

Olli is rated an 81 overall in my NHL 18 be a gm at the trade deadline in season 1. i am super excited to have him next season in my franchise mode. ^^  glad he wears 7 now. wont need to stress about del zotto stealing his #.  7 looks great on him to boot.

 

Olli is definitely underrated. im glad hes starting to settle in. i think we may see more of him come the elimination games.

Edited December 30, 2017 by Rush17

[rekker]

1 minute ago, Ihatetomatoes said:

Good game by Juolevi, Comes as advertised. Solid with the puck whether he is back being forechecked, making breakout passes, small passes in the neutral zone or making plays in the O zone or on the PP. 

 

You can notice how he has learned to use his size by getting body on the boards and winning board battles, a few time he completely elimated a forward on the boards allowing his teammates to grab the puck and go up the ice. Definitely NHL level defensive plays. 

 

One thing I would nitpick about his game that may limit his effectiveness as an NHL player is his footspeed. He doesn't seem to have a great first few steps. I noticed a few times how much slower he was when racing for a puck or that one time he almost got beat wide. He just doesn't really have quick feet, he's excellent at reading the play and getting to where he needs to be by using his elite hockey sense and smooth skating but when faced with scrambly play or needing to make quick movements he is a little slow. People like to compare him to Tanev but Tanev has much quicker feet and can get to where he needs to be a lot quicker.  

 

Liked his game though, just a solid overall game and if he has one weakness in my eyes in slighly slow feet.

I noticed that foot speed on a couple plays as well. Then I saw a quick burst three steps from a guy and then noticed it was OJ. Hopefully just inconsistent with it. 

[Rush17]

2 minutes ago, rekker said:

I noticed that foot speed on a couple plays as well. Then I saw a quick burst three steps from a guy and then noticed it was OJ. Hopefully just inconsistent with it. 

i could tell when he was on the ice with his latteral movements towards the boards when receiving a pass. he has a very different skating style then the others. argubly more efficient skating going side to side on zone exits.  he was and is by far and away the best finnish defensive minded d man so far in this event.  the other d men are getting scored on and giving up lot of opportunities. on some weak plays even. good team play tho. i believe finland has a chance at gold. but i believe juolevis usage may be a big factor.  heskanian had some bad moments out there. hes good offensively tho.

[rekker]

48 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

i could tell when he was on the ice with his latteral movements towards the boards when receiving a pass. he has a very different skating style then the others. argubly more efficient skating going side to side on zone exits.  he was and is by far and away the best finnish defensive minded d man so far in this event.  the other d men are getting scored on and giving up lot of opportunities. on some weak plays even. good team play tho. i believe finland has a chance at gold. but i believe juolevis usage may be a big factor.  heskanian had some bad moments out there. hes good offensively tho.

I agree OJ was by far Finland's best D. He goes side to side and his pivots look effortless. Head always up. Not very physical. But modern D aren't that physical. 

Edited December 31, 2017 by rekker

[johngould21]

44 minutes ago, rekker said:

I noticed that foot speed on a couple plays as well. Then I saw a quick burst three steps from a guy and then noticed it was OJ. Hopefully just inconsistent with it. 

That was one of the things I noticed in last years tourney, he's up to speed in two to three steps.

[ruilin96]

Good to see some members on CDC finally realizing the good stuffs he does on the ice. Reading a few pages back, there seems to be a concern of him not putting up the numbers and stats to back him up. And here are some of the thoughts I have to share. I wrote this in the Canucks vs Kings GDT in response to a poster who is criticizing Olli's game for his play in the tournament and here were the points I made.

 

Boeser in the WJC in his draft+1 year only has 1G 2A only  3 points in 7 GP. Other forwards who were scoring close to or above a point per game pace on the same team includes Christian Dvorak, Nick Schmaltz, Sonny Milano and Colin White. Now you tell me, will you trade Boeser in a 1 for 1 situation for any of those guys I mentioned who outscored him in the tournament on the same team? The answer is easily a No.

 

Because in a short tournament, players can get hot, or gets instant chemistry with their linemates and all of a sudden can score in bunches and make them look much more dominant than they actually are. In the same time, a good player may be playing well for the whole tournament but is snake bitten, lack of luck or chemistry with linemates and make them look mediocre. It also depends on what role is the player is given in such short tournament. In Olli Juolevi's case, he isn't be utilize as an offensive D-man, he is utilize as their shut-down D to slow and neutralize opposition attacks. Since Finland has other offensive minded D-man in Heiskanen, Valimaki and Jokiharju to be counted onto generate offense, Olli is given the other job to mainly play the safe game and cover for his D partner when his partner goes onto join the rush.

 

When evaluating a prospect in the WJC, it's more important to look at the fundamental of their games (i.e. do they make the right decision with and without the puck; how they position themselves; do they understand/process the game at a high level etc.) instead of merely focusing on the points, goals and stats that they are putting up. Take another example, Cody Hogdson and Jordan Schroeder both led the tournament in points and where are they now? One has retired and the other never likely will be a NHL regular. 

 

Goals, Assists and Points could be fun for a prospect and get us fans excited, the more important part is how he plays and how he gets those points. Sometimes a player plays well and gets stats to back it up (i.e. Elias Pettersson in this tournament) and sometimes they play well but don't have the stats to back it up (i.e. Olli Juolevi and the 2016 Brock Boeser) and sometimes their stats are infalted because of luck and chemistry with linemates (i.e. Jordan Schroeder and Cody Hogdson). As far as I am concern, I think Olli plays his role well and does exactly what his coach asks him to do. I would love to see him on the score sheet more, but if he is playing his role and playing it well, I am not concern with him not factor in the score sheet as often as we hope to see.

[Rob_Zepp]

1 hour ago, Canucks Curse said:

Of course he is solid

but when u draft top 5 there are expectations on GMs and the players selected.

Some unrealistic and impatient fans want an nhl ready player who can contribute in the draft +1 or +2 years with franchise player potential. 

 

Of course all player trajectories are different. Case in point- compare Sean couturier and Mark Scheifle. For many years WPG fans thought Cheveldayoff had crapped the bed on that pick. 

FIFY

[MJDDawg]

I'm sure this has been said already on this thread, but to me he plays like a young Boss Tanev.

 

Nothing wrong with this at all for a young player to be considered as such. This tourney shows he's exactly as advertised...and that's a good thing.

 

So I'm still good with the pick, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was kind of hoping to get a more dynamic player at #5...regardless of position. 

 

 

[granpappy]

1 hour ago, MJDDawg said:

I'm sure this has been said already on this thread, but to me he plays like a young Boss Tanev.

 

Nothing wrong with this at all for a young player to be considered as such. This tourney shows he's exactly as advertised...and that's a good thing.

 

So I'm still good with the pick, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was kind of hoping to get a more dynamic player at #5...regardless of position. 

 

 

tanev was kind of in between regimes, so at least this version of tanev will completely be a part of the new nucleus. i suspect he might have a little more athleticism with the potential for a higher ceiling offensively if salo can show him anything about scoring goals. if only he could hit like ohlund. i don't know how much jb knows but if we are going to land dahlin then olli makes perfect sense

Edited December 31, 2017 by granpappy

[CeeBee51]

Just now, granpappy said:

 if only he could hit like ohlund

Maybe if we feed him Swedish meatballs every other day? 

[R.Dahlin26]

Much better and more noticeable game for Juolevi today. Was great on the PP. Made 2 fantastic passes, one leading to a goal. Had a great chance to score in the slot as well.

 

More games like this one and I'm happy.

[Rush17]

39 minutes ago, R.Dahlin26 said:

Much better and more noticeable game for Juolevi today. Was great on the PP. Made 2 fantastic passes, one leading to a goal. Had a great chance to score in the slot as well.

 

More games like this one and I'm happy.

believe tonight was the first night a goal was scored with him on the ice so far this tourney. thats pretty impressive if true.  i only saw play by play packages so am not 100% sure on that. 

[Tinky-Winky]

On 12/29/2017 at 8:20 AM, higgyfan said:

Tkachuk is nothing like those other guys. 

That is correct, hes like his father , was just saying....the way hockey is going, people like tkachuk are VERY rare ( so when players like him are avail, id jump at it if i could ) ...which is why i listed those other peeps ( hitters, tough guys and players who will protect the scorers ) ...to show how hockey has changed over the years, and im not saying for the good either.