Sbriggs Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Yeah, if Dubois is gone at #4, do you draft Tkachuk or trade to ARI for their 7th (Sergachev) and 20th (Gauthier)? yes you do unless benning thinks Tkachuck is superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Why would Arizona want Tkachuk? They have so many great forward prospects and are in much greater need of defensemen. The only way I see them trading from 7th to 5th is if they think we're taking Juolevi, they want Juolevi, and they don't like Sergachev or Chychrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckFan1123 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This is my gut feeling going in. If Dubois is there at 5, we take him. If he's picked 4th, we take Juolevi at 5. I don't see a trade back, and I just get the sense that outside of the big 3, Tkachuk is 3rd or even 4th on Bennings board behind Dubois and Juolevi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Lui's Knob said: Benning once again appears to have botched this. He likes Dubois ticked off Montreal and now montreal will trade Subban to Edmonton and then draft Dubois. slow clap benning He didn't Botch anything, if Habs and Edm make a deal and Dubois is gone we take Tkachuck or make a deal with Arizona for the 7th and 20th which I think Benning could do wonders with.. Whats the big deal. You know Edm will over pay for sure and thats what we would like as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 it was disappointing enough to drop out of the top 3 at the draft lottery, i dont get all the talk about dropping down even further. As a fan base we paid our dues having to endure a horrible season. Screw that, we have paid our dues (well some of us have) for decades. Top 5 picks are precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, LM11 said: Are people here really expecting AZ to give us 7th and 20th for 5th? That's never going to happen. Can people please be realistic. If we trade with them, it'll only be the 7th overall and 2nd or a prospect. Nothing more. I could live with that depending on who the prospect is.......scrap the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 On 24/06/2016 at 1:36 PM, NUCKER67 said: I'd rather MTL get 4th than EDM. It's all part of Benning's evil plan. Yup. His buddy let him know that Columbus is trading 3rd to Arizona and they are drafting tkatchuk. he deliberately pisses of Montreal so they trade with Edmonton for the 4th and steal dubois from us. Then he is left in the position of having to draft puljavari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, Lui's Knob said: Benning once again appears to have botched this. He likes Dubois ticked off Montreal and now montreal will trade Subban to Edmonton and then draft Dubois. slow clap benning How can you say he's botched it when he hasn't even done anything yet? Personally I have a little more confidence in Benning. Go Jim Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 There's a reason other teams want the 5th pick and not a mid first and a second, if that's the price benning is putting on a potential franchise player in either of the two forwards identified at 5th he's as bad as most of us think. Minimum Two firsts and a second for any top 5 pick especially if one coming back is not a top 10. Trading for a later pick just to get a second rounder just seems pointless. one good to great player or two bottom six players. Uh oh we know what benning will choose . Let the fleecing commence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM11 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, combover said: There's a reason other teams want the 5th pick and not a mid first and a second, if that's the price benning is putting on a potential franchise player in either of the two forwards identified at 5th he's as bad as most of us think. Minimum Two firsts and a second for any top 5 pick especially if one coming back is not a top 10. Trading for a later pick just to get a second rounder just seems pointless. one good to great player or two bottom six players. Uh oh we know what benning will choose . Let the fleecing commence. It's not the price Benning seeks, but the market price. The franchise players are top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, LM11 said: Are people here really expecting AZ to give us 7th and 20th for 5th? That's never going to happen. Can people please be realistic. If we trade with them, it'll only be the 7th overall and 2nd or a prospect. Nothing more. Yes, because a top 5 pick even 2 spots down to draft a player rumoured to be HIGHLY desired by the team wanting to trade up is of course only going to cost a pittance While if we want to move up 2 spots we'll have to include an extra pick, take on a bad contract and add a player or prospect. Because...CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 No Dubois or Puljujarvi = move back. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 But if Dubois or Puljujarvi aren't at 5, which teams are going to want to pay the price to move up? ARZ want's D, BUF wants D. MTL want's Dubois, Are we willing to drop down to 10? Maybe Buf would consider it to take Tkachuk but is the price going to be worth it for us to take a risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just now, ForsbergTheGreat said: But if Dubois or Puljujarvi aren't at 5, which teams are going to want to pay the price to move up? ARZ want's D, BUF wants D. MTL want's Dubois, Are we willing to drop down to 10? Maybe Buf would consider it to take Tkachuk but is the price going to be worth it for us to take a risk? Mtl loves Brown too. Teams may want to move up for Tkachuk or a dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, LM11 said: It's not the price Benning seeks, but the market price. The franchise players are top 3. That's not really entirely true. The top 3 have slightly higher ceilings and/or will be NHL ready sooner but largely they just have less question marks. The next tier are largely just less projectable. Keller could be the best player in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Mtl loves Brown too. Teams may want to move up for Tkachuk or a dman. But unless were willing to go 10 or later the teams right behind will get the player they want without having to make a move. For example would MTL really give us an asset (2nd round pick or greater) just to move up to 5 so they can take Brown over Tkachuk? When Brown is likely falling to them at 9 if they want? MTL is also said to like Keller and also like the D available, so I don't see them willing to pay the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Brian Burke will be dancing up the podium to select Matthew Tkachuk. Calling it. This is if EDM passes on Tkachuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 If Dub is gone, Get Tkacuck? What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, DontMessMe said: Brian Burke will be dancing up the podium to select Matthew Tkachuk. Calling it. This is if EDM passes on Tkachuk I think the lames want to engineer 2 top 6 picks by giving up Hamilton and one of their many 2nd rounders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Tv feed shows an active bunch. Looked like the Canuck brass are engaged in a lot of talking... Is it me or is benning going to lose another trade again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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