SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Agoork said: NHL DRAFT COMBINE - weights and heights of the prospects (is being updated as each group is weighed/measured): http://thehockeywriters.com/2017-nhl-combine-heights-weights/ Necas is bigger than I thought. 6'1 and 178lbs Heiskanen up to 6'2" now (from 6'0" at his last official measurements). Still only 172lbs but that growth spurt has put him smack dab into "projectable frame" territory for an NHL D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said: Then why don't they just keep the pick and draft LHD Miro Heiskanan? He is already playing against men and could be ready to go in his draft +1. yep that's what I think will happen too..He'll spend one year in the AHL and then be on there roster as early as the end of next season. But I think Stars will end up swapping that pick to dump a goalie contract since they will likely be able to get Heiskanan a few spots down. Swap with vegas at 7 with the condition that vegas takes on Niemi/ Lehtonen and draft Heiskanan at 7.. I can also see the stars sending their 29th overall pick to edmonton for Eberle since a RW is also a need. Edited June 3, 2017 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Vesalainen is a monster wow And ZOMG look at that Cale Makar...that kid who is too small and plays in a subpar league. almost 6 feet now and 187 pounds. That says still room to grow Also still liking popagayev in the 2nd if he's still there, skilled and a decent size That gloating doesn't look good on anyone hippy. While it is nice to see Makar is filling out and growing a bit, it doesn't take away from the fact he is playing in a kids league, while other top Dmen are already playing against men. Ive gotten to the point where I wouldn't cry if we picked him, but I would be extremely nervous about his ability to adapt. I just haven't seen anything against real competition from him. But damn. I watched another highlight video of his, and that kid can skate like the wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckswincup8 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) curious about pettersson's height and weight. If he turns out not to be an underfed midget, canucks should really think of taking him, even trade down for him. He has so much skill that he could be the steal of this draft. Edited June 3, 2017 by canuckswincup8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The media always plays up the narrative that teams are seriously considering moving picks and not a single one has been traded after the draft order has been set in the past decade. Every single GM always answers that they are listening to offers but its just doing their due diligence more than anything. Having a top talent under team control for the next 7-8 years and on an ELC for 3 years is just too valuable to pass up unless you are getting a massive overpayment. So all this discussion about the 3rd pick is rather pointless, its fun because there is little to discuss but its still pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Toews said: The media always plays up the narrative that teams are seriously considering moving picks and not a single one has been traded after the draft order has been set in the past decade. Every single GM always answers that they are listening to offers but its just doing their due diligence more than anything. Having a top talent under team control for the next 7-8 years and on an ELC for 3 years is just too valuable to pass up unless you are getting a massive overpayment. So all this discussion about the 3rd pick is rather pointless, its fun because there is little to discuss but its still pointless. ....Bo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ....Bo.... I should have clarified that I meant top 5 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, drummerboy said: That gloating doesn't look good on anyone hippy. While it is nice to see Makar is filling out and growing a bit, it doesn't take away from the fact he is playing in a kids league, while other top Dmen are already playing against men. Ive gotten to the point where I wouldn't cry if we picked him, but I would be extremely nervous about his ability to adapt. I just haven't seen anything against real competition from him. But damn. I watched another highlight video of his, and that kid can skate like the wind Gloating is taking smug assurance in something one did or one's own success. When a page is full of people claiming he's "too small and won't grow" while telling me that I am wrong I am absolutely going to point out that I was right. So if I was in fact gloating. Good. The kid is going to be a solid D prospect no matter what people say. Again, having watched players from Weber to Keith, Edler, and, Fabbro in the Okanagan I can say unequivocally he has possibly the biggest upside of all of them. Judging by his physical growth as well 6 foot 1 and 200 pounds isn't entirely out of the question by the time he's done college 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Gloating is taking smug assurance in something one did or one's own success. When a page is full of people claiming he's "too small and won't grow" while telling me that I am wrong I am absolutely going to point out that I was right. So if I was in fact gloating. Good. The kid is going to be a solid D prospect no matter what people say. Again, having watched players from Weber to Keith, Edler, and, Fabbro in the Okanagan I can say unequivocally he has possibly the biggest upside of all of them. Judging by his physical growth as well 6 foot 1 and 200 pounds isn't entirely out of the question by the time he's done college The biggest upside including Shea Weber and Duncan Keith. Okay dude. I like most of your posts. 9/10 you are a solid contributor. BUT This Makar loving you have been doing the last couple weeks is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, drummerboy said: The biggest upside including Shea Weber and Duncan Keith. Okay dude. I like most of your posts. 9/10 you are a solid contributor. BUT This Makar loving you have been doing the last couple weeks is just silly. There's nothing wrong with showing love for Makar and he does have a high upside but you're right, that in particular is a bit of a crazy statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said: If all of this is accurate, taking him at 5 might be a steal. I've been high on this kid for a while now and wouldn't be upset if we took him at 5. Trading Tanev for a pick around 8-12 and getting him there while also getting Mittelstadt, Vilardi, or Liljigren at 5 is my draft fantasy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Odd. said: Yeah, I wouldnt select Heiskanen at 3rd overall. I'm really hoping we can get the 3rd overall pick without having to trade our 5th overall pick. Would allow us to pick a Center and a defenseman (for me Mittlestadt and Liljegren). Vilardi and Makar for me if we get 3rd and 5th. wouldnt mind Glass, Petterson and Necas as our C pick. Would take Heiskanen and Liljegren as our D pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said: they actually need both: http://thehockeywriters.com/stars-and-canucks-perfect-trading-partners/ Both Edler and Tanev make sense for them, but Tanev is the easiest to move. No tanev doesn't though. Hockeywriters really don't have a clue what teams in the west need. That article is just some no name guy putting out his opinion, and it has zero team insight behind it....He heard Dallas needs D and then jumped to a conclusion, he's not any more reputable than any CDC member stating an opinion here.. Here's the writer trying to defend the fact that since Tanev played the right side he doesn't actually fit there needs. Quote Hey , I love a good hockey debate. Too bad it turned into insult hurling. As a proud Canadian, I love Americans! Why can't we all just get along!?! I see the argument about Tanev being a RHD, but with Honka being fairly unproven at this stage of his career, he might be better suited for a 3rd pairing/power play specialist role. It's also not set in stone that defencemen have to play on their strong side. There are lots of examples of defencemen being successful on their off side. One that pops into mind was Christian Ehrhoff during the height of his career in Vancouver. While it's favourable to play on the strong side, defencemen can have success on their off-side. Put it this way, the stars biggest need is the top pairing LHD. Slavin/Murray/Fowler fit that area. So why would the stars trade their best tradable asset for a return that doesn't fill there top need. Edler makes sense but his at his age and how he's declined he's not going to command the 3rd overall pick. Dallas will likely draft Hieskanen and then throw money at alzner. Edited June 3, 2017 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Drafting makar would on one hand make me very nervous but on the other hand extremely excited for what he could be. Benning's got some balls if he takes this kid at 5, we all know the way the local media would go with this especially if he didn't progress rapidly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Brobidus said: His weight. He is really really lanky. I've read that scouts don't know how much weight he will be able to put on. Didnt they say the same thing about Karlsson. How did that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Casey Mittelstadt is listed as 6'1" on every site that I have looked at, but he is actually under 6' at 5'11.5". Interesting to see that discrepancy, but he is close to 200 pounds, so still a solid guy. Gabe Vilardi is confirmed to be close to what we suspected him to be at standing 6'2.75" tall and 203 pounds. If we want a "west coast centerman," he might be the guy we should be looking at. I can see a guy like Kailer Yamamoto falling to our #33 pick in the second round given his stature - 5'7.5" and 146 pounds. When was the last time a guy under 150 was taken in the first round? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, KKnight said: Didnt they say the same thing about Karlsson. How did that turn out? Karlsson was considered undersized/underweight, but he wasn't ever considered lanky like Pettersson is lanky - he looks like a prototypical euro league player like his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Apparently, Mittelstadt could only manage 1 rep in the bench press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Agoork said: Apparently, Mittelstadt could only manage 1 rep in the bench press. BUST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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