cory40 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: 1ol -slow day? Yeh Summer is starting to drag...….I do believe we are half way through page 601! Edited August 14, 2018 by cory40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Alflives said: That’s so cool! This kid is driven to be the best. Didnt he have a really strong grip at the draft combine? He’s got really strong hands and forearms I think. He was 3rd in mean and 7th in peak power output on the wingate test. So he is pretty damn fit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 hours ago, 250Integra said: 1st overall pick? Hughes already did us a favor in our bid for 1st overall by opting for another year in College. Pettersson is anti team tank clearly by coming over and playing for us. That's not how you'll endear yourself to some of this fanbase. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, MattJVD said: He was 3rd in mean and 7th in peak power output on the wingate test. So he is pretty damn fit He also may be skinny but he's wiry and has incredible core strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 hours ago, MattJVD said: He was 3rd in mean and 7th in peak power output on the wingate test. So he is pretty damn fit Yeah, our 2017 draft class had some very impressive results at the combine. Rathbone and Gadjovich just killed it overall. Gadjovich was top-10 on 5 different tests. Rathbone’s results really impressed me at the time, and he’s made some significant training gains since then. And, as you note, Pettersson’s Wingate results were very impressive. Lind, as well, was no slouch on the Wingate, and had good grip strength results. Also reminded of DiPietro’s 77.5 inch wingspan (a half foot wider than his height). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On August 14, 2018 at 9:16 AM, aGENT said: He also may be skinny but he's wiry and has incredible core strength. I bet Pettersson could out plank Ryan Reaves 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 8/13/2018 at 7:46 PM, Alflives said: That’s so cool! This kid is driven to be the best. Didnt he have a really strong grip at the draft combine? He’s got really strong hands and forearms I think. He is what he is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hockey news projects EP to get 58 pts That would be Sedins replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGT68 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, cory40 said: Hockey news projects EP to get 58 pts That would be Sedins replacement One anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, TGT68 said: One anyway If he gets 58 pts that would be 58 goals in total, If the Sedins each got 58 pts that would maybe be 62 goals. Not as hard as you think, to count how many times each Sedin was in on each others goals. Be easier to replace the goals than many think. One reason why the Canucks struggled with two very good players to score goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yung1 Posted August 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, cory40 said: If he gets 58 pts that would be 58 goals in total, If the Sedins each got 58 pts that would maybe be 62 goals. Not as hard as you think, to count how many times each Sedin was in on each others goals. Be easier to replace the goals than many think. One reason why the Canucks struggled with two very good players to score goals. we literally led the league in goals in their prime. Edited August 18, 2018 by Yung1 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGT68 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 16 hours ago, cory40 said: If he gets 58 pts that would be 58 goals in total, If the Sedins each got 58 pts that would maybe be 62 goals. Not as hard as you think, to count how many times each Sedin was in on each others goals. Be easier to replace the goals than many think. One reason why the Canucks struggled with two very good players to score goals. I am not stats savvy enough to show you how individually generated goals work but know enough to tell you that ain't it. Like if EP played with BB and BH and got 58 points I don't think you could count too many of those to Sedin replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Yung1 said: we literally led the league in goals in their prime. I'm not saying they weren't great players but I looked at the stats and they we're involved almost to a the letter T in each others assists. So all I am saying is they should have 30 more goals as a team with two 58 pt players ,and that never translated the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Yung1 said: we literally led the league in goals in their prime. 2 hours ago, TGT68 said: I am not stats savvy enough to show you how individually generated goals work but know enough to tell you that ain't it. Like if EP played with BB and BH and got 58 points I don't think you could count too many of those to Sedin replacement. Malkin and Crosby can be split and pick up two lines. In the Sedins case that was not so, In fact their style need each other to generate points. If they we're involved in say 68 goals for the year combined and it came off 60 points each that still is just 68 goals. When it should be closer to 78 to 80 goals. So to say we need to get the total points in the system to generate the same amount of goals is not true. In fact if we get two players to get 40 points it should translate to 68 goals then that would replace the Sedins. And if we get players to play 5 on 5 and OT we will be better off. Now I am a Sedin fan through and through but them not being split hurt the team when they got older because neither in their last few years was a shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Yung1 said: we literally led the league in goals in their prime. We didn't lose the Sedins in their prime! In case you hadn't noticed they couldn't play 3 on 3 and were often out matched 5 on 5 when they were not in their prime anymore. We need to replace what the Sedins did last season to keep growing, And I am saying not as hard as people think that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 56 minutes ago, cory40 said: We didn't lose the Sedins in their prime! In case you hadn't noticed they couldn't play 3 on 3 and were often out matched 5 on 5 when they were not in their prime anymore. We need to replace what the Sedins did last season to keep growing, And I am saying not as hard as people think that's all. Yeah its true people keep saying we need to replace 100 points, 50 for each sedin. But in reality, most of those are from the same goal so really we only need to replace like 60-70 points,and a guy like EP alone could do that. Add in Horvat Baertschi Virtanen and Boeser all set for career years, players like gagner eriksson granlund goldobin and leipsic looking to gain some traction, and a d core with a steady prospect probably coming in. I dontknow, it just seems like collectively we arent that bad even with the sedin’s retirement. EP is a stud and him alone in my opinion is enough to compensate for the sedin’s departure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, cory40 said: Malkin and Crosby can be split and pick up two lines. In the Sedins case that was not so, In fact their style need each other to generate points. If they we're involved in say 68 goals for the year combined and it came off 60 points each that still is just 68 goals. When it should be closer to 78 to 80 goals. So to say we need to get the total points in the system to generate the same amount of goals is not true. In fact if we get two players to get 40 points it should translate to 68 goals then that would replace the Sedins. And if we get players to play 5 on 5 and OT we will be better off. Now I am a Sedin fan through and through but them not being split hurt the team when they got older because neither in their last few years was a shooter. I disagree with them needing each other they put up some really good points when one or the other was hurt Edited August 19, 2018 by Dats hockey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Yeah its true people keep saying we need to replace 100 points, 50 for each sedin. But in reality, most of those are from the same goal so really we only need to replace like 60-70 points,and a guy like EP alone could do that. Add in Horvat Baertschi Virtanen and Boeser all set for career years, players like gagner eriksson granlund goldobin and leipsic looking to gain some traction, and a d core with a steady prospect probably coming in. I dontknow, it just seems like collectively we arent that bad even with the sedin’s retirement. EP is a stud and him alone in my opinion is enough to compensate for the sedin’s departure. In Reality? I think that is a silly statement There can be 3 points to a goal by Any player on All teams You are using Sedins points generated? How does that make sense? Everyone else gets points on every other line in the League So when Gretzky and Kurri were scoring 296 combined points each season, they only had to replace how many points? Kurri scored 102 the year without Wayne, after Wayne was traded Wayne 168 that year It doesn't even make sense saying that to me In your mind Had they been split (like Gretzky Kurri) they wouldn't have helped the team score goals? They could score goals without each other and when Henrik won Daniel was hurt The coaches just chose to keep them together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Dats hockey said: I disagree with them needing each other they put up some really good points when one or the other was hurt Yeh true, But your so missing my point. If they were together or one was hurt they still got the same amount of goals. But hey some can't seem to grasp that two players of high caliber involved in each others points to the degree that they did does not spread out the offense. But hey let this year prove my point less points and more goals and finishing higher in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: In Reality? I think that is a silly statement There can be 3 points to a goal by Any player on All teams You are using Sedins points generated? How does that make sense? Everyone else gets points on every other line in the League So when Gretzky and Kurri were scoring 296 combined points each season, they only had to replace how many points? Kurri scored 102 the year without Wayne, after Wayne was traded Wayne 168 that year It doesn't even make sense saying that to me In your mind Had they been split (like Gretzky Kurri) they wouldn't have helped the team score goals? They could score goals without each other and when Henrik won Daniel was hurt The coaches just chose to keep them together The Oilers had a deep team they could win by 3 or 4 goals. The Sedins won't be missed this year. Pretty simple they only we're combined involved in like 65 goals and they needed 120 points to do that. Any other two players with 120 combined points it will be more like 80 goals scored for the team. If Pettersson is involved in 60 goals that's the same amount of goals the Sedins would have been involved in. Total goals are the measuring stick not total points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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