Warhippy Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Yup. Coach sending a message about compete level. That still doesn't mean Sutter solves their scoring woes. I was thinking something along the lines of Sutter and Goldbin with a possible plus going back either way (mid pick late pick between teams) I am just curious what people would thinnk just because we're finally starting to stockpile that depth teams need to start considering trades like this. As I said we're still a draft or two early but it's a fun discussion to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I was thinking something along the lines of Sutter and Goldbin with a possible plus going back either way (mid pick late pick between teams) I am just curious what people would thinnk just because we're finally starting to stockpile that depth teams need to start considering trades like this. As I said we're still a draft or two early but it's a fun discussion to have Galchenyuk is one of their few remaining higher value trade chips. Guys like Sutter are valuable but reasonably easy to obtain. If they move him it will be a move to shore up there 1C or 2C position. Sutter is a good 3C but that's his ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Let me explain why Sutter isn't a fit in a different way. Montreals biggest need is a legit 1C or 2C. They currently have Plekanec playing 2C. Ideally he should be their 3C at this point in his career. His offence has dried up but he's still a very good 2 way guy. Picking up Sutter does nothing to correct this issue. It just adds to the problem. If Galchenyuk is moved. They need a top end C who will address their scoring problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 43 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I was thinking something along the lines of Sutter and Goldbin with a possible plus going back either way (mid pick late pick between teams) I am just curious what people would thinnk just because we're finally starting to stockpile that depth teams need to start considering trades like this. As I said we're still a draft or two early but it's a fun discussion to have I don’t think Montreal would get much more than that for Galchenyuk. Max I’d offer is Baertschi, Sutter, and a pick. The pick we’d more than likely be able to recoup at the trade deadline and Galchenyuk, even right now is an easy upgrade on Baertschi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeydownUnder Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Canucks are just a bad trading partner. Montreal isn't going to sell Chuckie for lesser pieces. They'll package him for an offensive top 6 center or they'll just hold onto him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Alflives said: I really like Chucky, and would love him on our team. I think the GM in Hab land needs to win now, so he might prefer a more developed play. I'm thinking Sutter and a prospect and a pick might look good. Maybe, Sutter + Goldobin + our coming second? We might have to take another contract along with Chucky to balance out. Knowing how much some of the fans here love Russians, we should keep as many Russians as we could just to spice up conversations. So replace Goldobin with Lind and no more draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkDepot Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Warhippy said: Just a super quick discussion. Galchenyuk is 0 for. Zero. Nadda. Zilch. Nothing. He's currently the whipping boy of les Toilet Seats and their fans. Bobby Macsays straight and true "now's not the time to trade him" But his value is as low as it's ever been. The lack of responsible 2 way forwards and scoring is killing the Habs. Do we FINALLY have enough depth to get that trade done? My thoughts are a good prospect and high pick. Possibly a young roster player and pick/prospect. I'm still thinking we're one solid drafts worth of depth before we can make this trade. But I don't think we lose out much if we can obtain him while his value is so low EDLER Gally gets so much hate over there it's incredible. Edler straight up. The fans will roll out the red carpet for MB and he'll be able to keep his job until Christmas - at which time the fans will realize how wrong they were, and then roll up to MB's house en mass with poutine in one hand and an AR15 in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Alflives said: I really like Chucky, and would love him on our team. I think the GM in Hab land needs to win now, so he might prefer a more developed play. I'm thinking Sutter and a prospect and a pick might look good. Maybe, Sutter + Goldobin + our coming second? We might have to take another contract along with Chucky to balance out. Are you the same guy that dislikes Ehlers and Nylander? But like Galchenyuk? Galchenyuk so bad defensively I think he even shoots on his own net sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Eriksson and 2019 1st. I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I would send them Olli in a heartbeat for galchenyuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hutton and Granlund - two players Canucks wouldn't want to lose, which might be enuf or just start of discussions. Mtl needs a scoring D and scoring top 6 Fwd Nucks would get a very high potential reclamation project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's not about "depth". Montreal absolutely needs a bonafide top-6 center who can drive offense. We only have one of those to offer, and we're not trading Horvat. Galchenyuk (+ Juulsen?) for Duchene makes perfect sense. And I suspect that Montreal management is watching the Tavares situation closely as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, D-Money said: It's not about "depth". Montreal absolutely needs a bonafide top-6 center who can drive offense. We only have one of those to offer, and we're not trading Horvat. Galchenyuk (+ Juulsen?) for Duchene makes perfect sense. And I suspect that Montreal management is watching the Tavares situation closely as well. Exactly. Galchenyuk for multiple depth prices doesn't solve their issues. It'll be Galchenyuk + for a legit top 2 C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, D-Money said: It's not about "depth". Montreal absolutely needs a bonafide top-6 center who can drive offense. We only have one of those to offer, and we're not trading Horvat. Galchenyuk (+ Juulsen?) for Duchene makes perfect sense. And I suspect that Montreal management is watching the Tavares situation closely as well. 26 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Exactly. Galchenyuk for multiple depth prices doesn't solve their issues. It'll be Galchenyuk + for a legit top 2 C Up until this year, this was the one deal I never really thought made sense but after both player's respective starts it's starting too. Duchene gets out and Colorado gets a younger player with something to prove with the benefit of reuniting Galchenyuk and Yakupov. I didn't think that Sakic would move on this but it's looking more viable now. That being said, I have to ask since we're on this forum if there's a deal we could make or have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 LeBrun on Insider Trading believes that Montreal are going to be patient and work with him to rebuild his confidence. He says it makes no sense to trade him with his value so low now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I wonder if Montreal could swing a deal with Vegas for. Shipachyov. Montreal could solve Vegas's roster issues by taking a disgruntled potential 2C and take one of their extra D. That allows Vegas to finally bring up Theodore. Not sure what the return would have to be. Likely a 1st and a good prospect (depending on which D Montreal has to take) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 5:27 PM, qwijibo said: I wonder if Montreal could swing a deal with Vegas for. Shipachyov. Montreal could solve Vegas's roster issues by taking a disgruntled potential 2C and take one of their extra D. That allows Vegas to finally bring up Theodore. Not sure what the return would have to be. Likely a 1st and a good prospect (depending on which D Montreal has to take) But is shipchayov their scoring answer? If Goldobin and Sutter aren't enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Warhippy said: But is shipchayov their scoring answer? If Goldobin and Sutter aren't enough... Shipachyov was a top 5 centre in the KHL last season. He's in the minors because of poor player management in Vegas. He can step in and be a 2C right now. Neither Sutter nor Goldobin can offer that. Also. In this deal Montreal would keep Galchenyuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: Shipachyov was a top 5 centre in the KHL last season. He's in the minors because of poor player management in Vegas. He can step in and be a 2C right now. Neither Sutter nor Goldobin can offer that. Also. In this deal Montreal would keep Galchenyuk uh....khl isnt nhl. that's my point. They could make that trade and find he's barely a fringe player long term. Goldobin is sadly a more proven commodity here in the west. The only point I was trying to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: uh....khl isnt nhl. that's my point. They could make that trade and find he's barely a fringe player long term. Goldobin is sadly a more proven commodity here in the west. The only point I was trying to make It you have Montreal giving up Galchenyuk. I have them giving up a pick and prospect. Also. Shipachoyev is a 30 vet. He's proven he's a professional player. Goldobin is yet to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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