Trudeau more unpopular than popular for the first time since election: survey

[Rob_Zepp]

8 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Literally no different than the old management.

 

Like at all.

 

Political division is amusing.  ZOMG my party is doing it so it's good.  ZOMG your party is doing the same so it's bad.

Well, neither is "my party" as I don't have such a thing but I had thought this party campaigned on being "different" and it seems it is at least as bad, if not worse, in the scuzziness department.

[Warhippy]

46 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Well, neither is "my party" as I don't have such a thing but I had thought this party campaigned on being "different" and it seems it is at least as bad, if not worse, in the scuzziness department.

I didn't vote for either but certainly didn't think they'd flop so hard on a few essential issues so quickly.

 

But the endless cons are bad libs are bad mantra without consideration of shared success vs failure is laughably ignorant on all counts for their supporters/detractors

[Rob_Zepp]

6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I didn't vote for either but certainly didn't think they'd flop so hard on a few essential issues so quickly.

 

But the endless cons are bad libs are bad mantra without consideration of shared success vs failure is laughably ignorant on all counts for their supporters/detractors

True words Warhippy, true words.

 

Merry Christmas!

[Toews]

7 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

And I will call you terrorist toews. Seems fitting for you.

And I remember you using your people's favorite deflection tactic whataboutism to defend a pedophile. 

 

Russian Ryan is also a Roy Moore supporter. 

[Toews]

6 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

I may be misquoting the context here, I admit, but I think it’s always funny and sad at the same time how the socialist types think Harper-ish governments are the totalitarian ones. 

Who implied that "Harper-ish governments" are totalitarian? Totalitarian government jail dissidents, assassinate its own citizens and is not afraid of taking away their rights. Harper was an incompetent PM but there is nothing totalitarian about any Canadian government.

[Warhippy]

35 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

True words Warhippy, true words.

 

Merry Christmas!

You to Zepp!

 

Now that we can legally say christmas again ya know.  since it was illegal before or some bs some nut job said and some group of idiots chose to believe

[Dral]

7 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

As far as gender identity goes, I really don't see why it bothers so many people to the point that it does. So someone wants recognition as trans e.g., and doesn't want to be discriminated for jobs. etc. Is that really that big a deal? 

 

I don't think anyone cares what a person identifies with. People who were fighting against C-16 weren't fighting for the right to discriminate against others, they were fighting because it's a stupid bill. It's written in a way that even if you don't know someone identifies as something else, and you make the mistake of calling them by the wrong pronoun, you are breaking the law... and even if you figure out what they want to be identified with, well, gender is fluid so they can change their minds the next day and now you're screwed again...

 

Again, I don't think anyone cares what you want to identify with, just don't leave me alone and I'll leave you alone

 

11 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

if you google gender and fluidity you'll find lots of human studies. 

You mean news articles? Can you find an actual scientific study published in a peer reviewed journal ?

[kingofsurrey]

Trudeau calls for giving, touts Liberal government in Christmas message

 

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is asking Canadians to reach out to their neighbours as they celebrate the holidays.

In his annual Christmas address to the nation, Trudeau urges people to make a difference, by volunteering, lending a hand to someone or simply listening to others.

Trudeau says Canadians showed strength in diversity in 2017 as they celebrated the 150th anniversary of Confederation.

 

And he encourages people across the country to “commit to making a difference” beyond Christmas and into the New Year.

At the same time, the prime minister asks Canadians to take a moment to think about the sacrifices made by the country’s military servicemen and women to keep people safe.

[Ryan Strome]

9 hours ago, Toews said:

And I remember you using your people's favorite deflection tactic whataboutism to defend a pedophile. 

 

Russian Ryan is also a Roy Moore supporter. 

When did I support Roy Moore? More like terrorist toews is a liar. 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2017 by Ryan Strome

[nucklehead]

I don't know about this but what a treat to wake up Christmas morning and see the Donald Trump thread in the number 5 position on this page for the first time since his election.

Merry Christmas to me. 

[189lb enforcers?]

17 hours ago, Toews said:

Who implied that "Harper-ish governments" are totalitarian? Totalitarian government jail dissidents, assassinate its own citizens and is not afraid of taking away their rights. Harper was an incompetent PM but there is nothing totalitarian about any Canadian government.

Merry Christmas, Toews.

That’s one perspective, sure. It doesn’t need to Be expressed that sinister or diabolical inorder to convey the joys of living within the socialist compliance-gun to your head drone-system which other miserable countries and cultures endure.

 

Appologies, if required, but I did offer a caveat in my original response, as not to string your name or post to my point, in general. I made this point in response to this site’s very, very Left leaning and liberal majority’s Day-dreamy romanticism of the world’s governance systems that have its peoples in slavitude, rather than freedom to chose their own lot in life. We have enjoyed the best place/governance to live on earth, but we still find room to imagine “wage gaps” and “institutional racism” along side of “Gender” boogie men oppressors. I say, Go fight in Saudia Arabia if you truely want to fight oppression, etc. Rebels without a cause. 

 

Harper was not a “bad PM”. Let’s save the word bad for its intended meaning. Considering the shift the globalists made in terms of global warming, war and terrorism boogie men, etc, it was an adventure that saw the Cons land on their feet. It wasn’t all bad. 

 

JT has already proven he is a joke to the point of being ignored in public by world officials. He is viewed as his resume reads, a joke. I don’t think this is even debatable. Do I need to post the videos on YouTube about him being ignored and acting like a 14 year-old boy? It’s there, take a look. The man is an embarrassment on the world stage and he’s dragging us along for the ride. 

 

To hear a “westerner” philosophically detract or lament the freedoms of our “capitalist” civilization is to not only insult the peoples of the world who’ve understood and endured actual communism/socialism/totalitarian rule, but is to also embarrassingly demonstrate a profound and willful ignorance of what contextual freedom truely means for a human. Choices, that is freedom. We are free here, in every imaginable sense, comparatively. Rejoice. 

 

IMO, Feminist Trudeau is the silver-spoon-fed poster boy for busy-work proclamations in youth-like misunderstandings concerning true oppression, discrimination and strife in this world.

 

With a bizarre sense of togetherness, the social media-educated, sycophantic crowd on here trudges along to the cucky-noise machine of ignorance. These SJWs that is, who seemingly have no clue about just how good we have it over here, to the point of openly embracing socialist views, which border, even borrow from, totalitarian idolizations are a testement to JT’s political choices. For these folks, I truely hope they achieve their ends, just somewhere else where their crushed Day-dreams won’t impede the rest of our freedoms of choice and destiny. 

Edited December 25, 2017 by 189lb enforcers?

[Gurn]

9 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

Merry Christmas, Toews.

That’s one perspective, sure. It doesn’t need to Be expressed that sinister or diabolical inorder to convey the joys of living within the socialist compliance-gun to your head drone-system which other miserable countries and cultures endure.

 

Appologies, if required, but I did offer a caveat in my original response, as not to string your name or post to my point, in general. I made this point in response to this site’s very, very Left leaning and liberal majority’s Day-dreamy romanticism of the world’s governance systems that have its peoples in slavitude, rather than freedom to chose their own lot in life. We have enjoyed the best place/governance to live on earth, but we still find room to imagine “wage gaps” and “institutional racism” along side of “Gender” boogie men oppressors. I say, Go fight in Saudia Arabia if you truely want to fight oppression, etc. Rebels without a cause. 

 

Harper was not a “bad PM”. Let’s save the word bad for its intended meaning. Considering the shift the globalists made in terms of global warming, war and terrorism boogie men, etc, it was an adventure that saw the Cons land on their feet. It wasn’t all bad. 

 

JT has already proven he is a joke to the point of being ignored in public by world officials. He is viewed as his resume reads, a joke. I don’t think this is even debatable. Do I need to post the videos on YouTube about him being ignored and acting like a 14 year-old boy? It’s there, take a look. The man is an embarrassment on the world stage and he’s dragging us along for the ride. 

 

To hear a “westerner” philosophically detract or lament the freedoms of our “capitalist” civilization is to not only insult the peoples of the world who’ve understood and endured actual communism/socialism/totalitarian rule, but is to also embarrassingly demonstrate a profound and willful ignorance of what contextual freedom truely means for a human. Choices, that is freedom. We are free here, in every imaginable sense, comparatively. Rejoice. 

 

IMO, Feminist Trudeau is the silver-spoon-fed poster boy for busy-work proclamations in youth-like misunderstandings concerning true oppression, discrimination and strife in this world.

 

With a bizarre sense of togetherness, the social media-educated, sycophantic crowd on here trudges along to the cucky-noise machine of ignorance. These SJWs that is, who seemingly have no clue about just how good we have it over here, to the point of openly embracing socialist views, which border, even borrow from, totalitarian idolizations are a testement to JT’s political choices. For these folks, I truely hope they achieve their ends, just somewhere else where their crushed Day-dreams won’t impede the rest of our freedoms of choice and destiny. 

^ this reads like someone was into the eggnog a little early today.

Merry Christmas.

[Warhippy]

Edited December 26, 2017 by Warhippy

[riffraff]

10 hours ago, Warhippy said:

[Neversummer]

His act is getting a bit tiring.  

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, Neversummer said:

His act is getting a bit tiring.  

Economy is doing quite well though even with low energy prices

[Neversummer]

2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Economy is doing quite well though even with low energy prices

Yah was just shooting the breeze with someone ... a growing economy and rising stock prices can silence a lot of discontent and make everything seem like they are 'sunny days'.  

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Neversummer said:

Yah was just shooting the breeze with someone ... a growing economy and rising stock prices can silence a lot of discontent and make everything seem like they are 'sunny days'.  

It is all a lot of people in the center and right seem to care about these days.  They never consider once that governments don't hire/fire people or set prices for anything but are quick to accuse them when jobs are lost anywhere or prices go up for any reason.

 

Economy is in fact doing well, services are in fact being increased and social standards are returning.

 

The guy isn't perfect at all.  His party is not much better than the old party.  But it still makes me laugh to see people putting him down for doing the EXACT same things they championed 4 years ago under the old government.

 

I don't like him myself, but he's a step up.  It will be seeing what he does with his next majority that matters.  I never base anything off of one single term; far to little time to actually be able to say "we did this" without knowing the first 2 years were simply getting things in order

[Ryan Strome]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

It is all a lot of people in the center and right seem to care about these days.  They never consider once that governments don't hire/fire people or set prices for anything but are quick to accuse them when jobs are lost anywhere or prices go up for any reason.

 

 

Are you sure that's just people in the centre or the right? I mean I've seen you guilty of what you just said and you're far to the left. Hell look at the lefties in the Trump thread.

 

You are right the economy is doing well but you left out the huge defecit.

[Ryan Strome]

Numbers keep falling for JT. 

 

New poll shows deterioration in approval ratings for Trudeau Liberals

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a lot more in common with Stephen Harper than he would probably like when it comes to his job approval score, a new poll shows.

More Canadians than ever before dislike Mr. Trudeau's Liberal government, whose approval ratings are now identical to Mr. Harper's before the last election, according to a new poll being released on Monday by Nanos Research and the Institute for Research on Public Policy.

The share of Canadians who say Mr. Trudeau's government is doing a bad job has jumped to 39 per cent from 33 per cent a year ago and 23 per cent in 2015, according to the annual Mood of Canada survey, conducted in late December.

 

A year of ethical lapses and the botched rollout of small business tax changes have taken a toll. It is the second consecutive year of falling job approval ratings for Mr. Trudeau in the annual survey, and a sharp deterioration compared with his early postelection ratings honeymoon in 2015.

The share of Canadians who say Mr. Trudeau's Liberals are doing a "very good" or "somewhat good" job has tumbled to 37 per cent in the latest poll, down from 43 per cent in 2016. Mr. Trudeau and his team enjoyed a surge of popularity in the aftermath of their 2015 election win, when 60 per cent of respondents judged the government was doing a good job.

The result is that Mr. Trudeau's positive ratings now match those the former Conservative prime minister had in the 2014 Nanos-IRPP survey.

"It's kind of ironic that the positive evaluations now are comparable to Stephen Harper at the end of his mandate," said pollster Nik Nanos, president of Ottawa-based Nanos Research.

"When the Liberals were elected, there was a certain sense of exuberance with the change of government and people being positive. What we're seeing now is the government transitioning from the promises they've made to the day-to-day grind and the reality of governing."

He likened the Liberal government's sinking ratings to a "technical correction … to something that is realistic."

The combined telephone and online survey of 1,000 Canadians was conducted from Dec. 27 to 29. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. It marks the 11th year the poll has been done.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/politics/new-poll-shows-deterioration-in-approval-ratings-for-trudeau-liberals/article37601246/