DSVII Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 28/06/2018 at 9:39 PM, EdgarM said: You are right we all want the same thing but I cannot see how tearing your team down such as what Edmonton, Arizona and Buffalo do year in and year out can spell success. You have to admit, the odds of ALL of these players magically succeeding at the same time is a bit of a gamble. Just like any prospect is a gamble they will make it as a regular in the NHL. Yet...…..your idea of getting rid of already established NHL hockey players to gamble yet again on more prospects, then we are already getting with are own picks, seems a bit of overkill on ONE aspect of player acquisition. All of this while the league plays with a cap system in which every team must abide by. That is what evens the teams out in the end. Just look at these teams that are wondering how they are going to sign all of their acquired stars under a cap system. Then look at these teams that never spend to the cap. There's a bit of a pattern here in which these teams that dump their good players every year also never spend to the cap. Getting good prospects is fine, but hanging them out to dry like the above mentioned teams do year in and year out, cannot spell success by any stretch of the imagination IMO. If they're first round picks. Absolutely take it look what the isles got even with pick #11 and 12. Also is it really a gamble with Benning drafting? I'd like to leverage the fact that we have better scouting than we had in the past and acquire more picks. If it was a previous regime in place I'd agree with you that an established player is prlly better but why not leverage our advantage? Edmonton is an example of $&!# management. It doesn't apply to us unless you believe our mgmt group us dumb enough to trade a hall for Larson, an Eberle for reinhart or to sign a lucid to a huge deal and wreck the teM. I've said it before. I'll say it again. If you let Edmonton define for you what a tear down rebuild means in absolute certainty, they've already won. Crafting our world view around them will do more damage to us than anything messier has because we're neglecting a viable option . There have been successful elite teams constructed by top 3 picks. Established players may sound nice but if ours are at an age where they won't be useful once our core becomes elite why not recoup them now? You can still sign established ufas in the offseason (beagle) and rinse and repeat The benefits of winning in garbage time when we are out of playoff contention for morale (and playoff teams frankly wont give a $&!# about playing us) and allowing ourselves to thump our chests saying "we aren't tanking like edmonton"! Doesn't outweigh the potential benefit of those extra picks and a chance at getting more elite players on Benning at the draft table. At least for me. ....and this doesn't mean telling telling the kids to lose. Fight every damn night. But manage the roster and time moving your assets to maximize value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I would love to be able to trade Gagner and Eriksson for some new character guys but i know because of they're contracts etc, it won't happen......Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishouldbethegm Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I see the lines this minute as... 1 Baertschi Horvat Boeser 2.Eriksson Granlund Pettersson 3 Leipsic Sutter Virtanen 4 Ganger Gaudette Goldobin 1 Hutton Tanev 2 Edler Stetcher 3 Del Zotto Pouliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Eriksson - Gagner - Pettersson Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen Roussel - Gaudette - Goldobin Edler - Tanev Gudbranson - Stetcher Hughes - Pouliot Markstrom Nilsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Eriksson - Gagner - Pettersson Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen Leipsic - Gaudette - Beagle Goldobin Edler - Stecher MDZ - Tanev Pouliot - Gudbranson Hutton Markstrom Nilsson This is a bad lineup. Assuming they bring in Beagle which is fine, its already a logjam before adding Roussell to the mix. Plus the logjam they already have on the backend. And Gagner can't be the 2C. They need to make a trade after free agency, they just have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 2018-06-24 at 2:14 PM, erkayloomeh said: I don't see a fit for gagne on this team. Is he worth anything on the market? I don't think goldobin will be good enough No I doubt he has any value Gagner maybe some GM gives a 4/5th. Goldy is an enigma. He is still such a boy. Some people mature slower than others. I feel he will probably break out once he is traded and/or waived take the Grabner route to the NHL. Gratuitous roster shot Baertschi Bo Boeser Pete Sutter Virtanen Roussel Gaud Goldy Loui Granlund Gagner Edler Gud Hughes Tanev Hutton Stetcher Juolevi* Pouliot/Biega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Eriksson - Gagner - Pettersson Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen Leipsic - Gaudette - Beagle Goldobin Edler - Stecher MDZ - Tanev Pouliot - Gudbranson Hutton Markstrom Nilsson This is a bad lineup. Assuming they bring in Beagle which is fine, its already a logjam before adding Roussell to the mix. Plus the logjam they already have on the backend. And Gagner can't be the 2C. They need to make a trade after free agency, they just have too. How about Riley Nash as a 2nd/3rd C? Then swap Gagner with Leipsic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 The big thing with hughes is he had his exp playing with the big boys in the whc where he was dynamite on the backend for USA theres no reason this kid cant bump one of our mediocre guys down the depth chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, johngould21 said: How about Riley Nash as a 2nd/3rd C? Then swap Gagner with Leipsic I know he just scored 40 points but is he really alot better than Sutter? I wouldn't mind bringing him in but at what price, if its 4 years around 4 million I would stay away myself. And I agree Gagner is definitely better on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_Drums03 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Baertchi - Horvat - Boeser Eriksson - Gagner/Granlund - Pettersson Leipsic/Goldobin - Sutter - Virtanen Schaller - Beagle - Roussel Gaudette Edler - Gudbransson Hughes - Tanev MDZ/Hutton - Stecher Juolevi - Pouliot Markstrom Demko Any players seperated by a slash needs one player traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hateleafs Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If we bring in two three guys then Eriksson and Gagner have to go.maybe baer as well. No need to block Gaudette Goldy Virtanen petterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Goldobin - Pettersson - Eriksson Roussel - Sutter - Virtanen Leipsic - Beagle - Granlund Ganger, Schaller Gaunce and Gaudette to Utica to work on his offense in a top 6 role. Dahlin in Utica with some call ups to replace middle 6 injuries. Motte in Utica. Hopefully Ganger traded, but who knows, maybe he has a bounce back year. Edler - Stecher Hutton - Tanev Del Zotto - Gudbranson Pouliot Joulevi in Utica playing meaningful minutes and Hughes in college or Utica. No need to rush players at this point. Markstrom Nilsson Demko gets call up for injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Imagine how different this lineup looks IF EP thrives at C. Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Goldobin - Pettersson - Eriksson Roussel - Sutter - Virtanen Schaller - Beagle - Gagner Leipsic, Gaunce, Gaudette Edler Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Del Zotto Stetcher Pouliot, Juolevi Markstrom Nilsson Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Imagine how different this lineup looks IF EP thrives at C. Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Goldobin - Pettersson - Eriksson Roussel - Sutter - Virtanen Schaller - Beagle - Gagner Leipsic, Gaunce, Gaudette Edler Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Del Zotto Stetcher Pouliot, Juolevi Markstrom Nilsson Demko Plus if Gaudette proves he is ready by February, Mgmt could seriously consider moving Sutter at the trade deadline for a big return (I could see getting a late first round pick at that time of year). Looks like Utica could have a pretty good team this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser Petterson-Sutter-Eriksson Roussell-Beagle-Virtanen Schaller-Gaudette-Granlund Leipsic Edler-Stecher Juolevi/Hughes-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Del Zotto-Pouliot There is our lineup as of today I think. Benning specifically mentioned Gaudette helping with scoring this year, so I think he is pencilled in and not bound for Utica. L and R hand centres on 2nd and 4th lines. Sutter/Eriksson and Beagle/Granlund as PK pairings... maybe Petterson gets to centre a 2nd unit PP to start getting some minutes in that position. Gagner, Motte, Archibald, Goldobin, Biega are the odd men out as of the moment it would seem. Hopefully we can get something for a couple of them, not sure if anyone gets picked up on waivers for sure. Goldobin and Motte could "maybe" be snuck through at the end of training camp when all teams are trying to trim rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Lineup to start the season Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Granlund - Sutter - Gagner Eriksson - Beagle - Pettersson Roussel - Schaller - Virtanen Edler - Stecher Del Zotto - Gudbranson Hughes - Tanev Pouliot Markstrom Nilsson Pettersson will eventually move up in the lineup. My guess is Hutton, Goldobin and/or Gaunce, could be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasSkywalker Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 With Beagle, Roussel, and Schaller, we have a bit of a log-jam at forward. Trade #1 - Hutton, Gaunce and Gagner for picks. Trade #2 - Sutter, Leipsic plus one of picks received in Trade 1 for Jakob Silferberg (need top 6 RW). Sign Hughes and Virtanen. Expect that one of Dahlen or Gaudette make the team. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/embed/766533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Baer Horvat Boeser Roussel Pettersson Eriksson Sutter Beagle Virtanen Leipsic Gaunce Granlund Schaller ( Goldy) ? Edler Tanev Guddy Hutton Stecher Pouliot Hughes Gagner, Biega and Del Zotto get Waived. All of the kids go to Utica . Gaudette, Juolevi, Motte, Dahlen, Lind.......... Will Juolevi even be ready for camp? Will Schaller be ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Baertschi Horvat Boeser Leipsic Sutter Eriksson Roussel Beagle Virtanen Pettersson Schaller Granlund Gagner Edler Tanev Del Zotto Gudbranson Pouliout Stecher Hutton Biega Markstom Nilsson AHL via Waivers: Gaunce, Boucher, Archibald, Kero, Sautner, McEneny Trade: Goldobin (6th or 7th round pick?) AHL waivers exempt: Gaudette, Lind, Gadjovich, Juolevi, Demko, Dahlen, Motte, and more You'd think the addition of 3 depth players would make me feel better, but it doesn't. It just reminds me of how much of a hole we're in. As the kids develop, the Canucks better not be afraid to put some big money on the waiver wire because that's the only way those contracts are leaving the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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