Alflives Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, 18W-40C-6W said: He’s going to go a lot earlier than the rankings suggest. 84 scouts? Lol that means teams sent teams of scouts to watch him This Seider kid has that non measurable “it” factor. Petey has “it” too. There’s just something about certain guys that makes them stand out as better than the rest. I’m hoping we get this guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Thanks. I didn't think you would be able to show me my quote where I said one player is better than other. I recommend enjoying a discussion and not just trying to be right or win argurmemts. Personally I don't care if im right or wrong. I want to know what the facts are. Fact is Parayko is no 4d or 3D. You should be thankful I did the research for you and showed you. Now I'm done. Enjoy your stay here on CDC. The coach in St. Louis has shown with his ice time, in the Regular season, playoffs and historically that he is a #3. his place is behind Peiterangelo- these are facts sorry you can’t accept that factual reality I’ve show you the data, I’ve shown you the depth chart. I’m not sure how you think that should be ignored over your opinion but good for you Edited June 2, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Would be great if the Canucks could get another 1st. Never mind moving up, its too expensive. Or trading down, they need a top 10 pick. Three picks in the Top 40 would help team depth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Just now, NUCKER67 said: Would be great if the Canucks could get another 1st. Never mind moving up, its too expensive. Or trading down, they need a top 10 pick. Three picks in the Top 40 would help team depth. The cost would be very high for a 1st rounder.. I'm not sure we can afford it. Schneider got a 9th when we traded him. Something very nice would have to go the other way. Best time to get picks was the trade deadline.. I don't see it happening.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: This Seider kid has that non measurable “it” factor. Petey has “it” too. There’s just something about certain guys that makes them stand out as better than the rest. I’m hoping we get this guy. What would you do trade down to around 20th and pick up another 2nd or 3rd ? Or hope he falls to us in 2nd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I have a feeling Canucks will pick Krebs. On all most all the rankings i‘ve seen Krebs is always 10. Every other player outside the top 5 is all over the place in rankings except for at 10 is always Krebs. Minus 50 Krebs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 18W-40C-6W Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said: I have a feeling Canucks will pick Krebs. On all most all the rankings i‘ve seen Krebs is always 10. Every other player outside the top 5 is all over the place in rankings except for at 10 is always Krebs. Minus 50 Krebs. His -50 isn’t reflective of his game, nor are his lower point totals than many of his peers. From most reports, his team was a major cause of his ok but not great offensive numbers, and they were out scored by 150 goals. That -50 is more reflective of always being on the ice trying to help a god awful team. Apparently, there was little if any talent on that team and they got lit up a lot. What is interesting is, his 72% primary points beats out most if not all of the top ten, and he was in on 40% of his teams goals. That beats out many in the top ten again. It means yes he was on the ice a lot, but he also is a play driver, we need that skill. good read here. I’d be very happy w Krebs at 10. I’d be ecstatic if we could swing Colorado’s second First rounder or FLA and get both he and Seider. https://www.milehighhockey.com/2019/5/17/18616661/2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile-peyton-krebs-scouting-report Edited June 2, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Getting another pick in the top 40 would be awesome. I've already talked about Dorofeyev and how I think his ceiling is really high, but there are a lot of other players who could be available as well. Guys like Puistola, Bjornfot, McMichael, Brink, Thomson, Korczak, Rees, Kokkonen, Grewe, Hoglander, etc. have a chance to be there at our pick and securing two of them instead of one would be huge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Other than the second tier D men, it feels like it may come down to: Podkolzin Caufield Krebs They each have their pros and cons but if those were the options who do you take? To me I’d be willing to take the risk and go Podkolzin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Would be great if the Canucks could get another 1st. Never mind moving up, its too expensive. Or trading down, they need a top 10 pick. Three picks in the Top 40 would help team depth. Agreed that we should keep 10 and it would be great to get another to take Sieder. Our 2nd ++ likely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Other than the second tier D men, it feels like it may come down to: Podkolzin Caufield Krebs They each have their pros and cons but if those were the options who do you take? To me I’d be willing to take the risk and go Podkolzin. I go defence at #10 UNLESS Boldy or Podkolzin are available... in that order. Otherwise, Broberg, but I would be quite happy with Krebs as well. Cool thing is we'll have a shot at atlest two of these guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, HockeyHarry said: Ducks could be interested in drafting York at #9. Ducks need a Dman, York’s from Anaheim plus Scott Niedermayer was coaching him. if that happens it opens up another top player at the #10 spot. would be suprised if they go with a D-Man at #9 my best guess is that they will draft the best center available, one out of Dach, Krebs ,Zegras - in this order. Zegras is the most likely player they are going to draft. Edited June 2, 2019 by Wolfgang Durst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 hours ago, WHL rocks said: What would you do trade down to around 20th and pick up another 2nd or 3rd ? Or hope he falls to us in 2nd round 4. We’ll see a run of five defensemen selected in sequence from 12-16 The top end of this class is the near opposite of 2018. Last June we saw five defenders selected by the 12th pick. Ty Smith wasn’t far behind at 17th overall, and if he were in this class, he would be the consensus second-best blueliner available. 2019 will test the mettle of scouts and GMs. Does your team want to improve its backend depth? Well, you’ll have to take a swing on a handful of players pegged in the 15-25 range. Once one goes, the run will begin. Starting with Minnesota and running through Florida, Arizona, Montreal and Colorado we will see five consecutive defenders taken. Those defenders will be some mix of Victor Soderstrom, Cam York, Ville Heinola, Moritz Seider and Thomas Harley. This theory hinges on the Avalanche selecting a forward with their first pick (fourth overall) – which is highly likely unless Byram is sitting there. Each one of those squads will be looking to add a defender to their pipeline and with the dip in talent at the forward position at that portion of the draft, a D-run is looking plausible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Pick a forward in the 1st go for Dman #40th Someone may fall down to them too sounds like the best plan here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said: He’s going to go a lot earlier than the rankings suggest. 84 scouts? Lol that means teams sent teams of scouts to watch him scouts from all 31 NHL teams did scout him during the regular DEL season. Edited June 2, 2019 by Wolfgang Durst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: 84 scouts - that' s impressive. Edited June 2, 2019 by Wolfgang Durst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) My guy is still Mortiz Seider. Really hope we nab him. The fact that he can play in the AHL next season unless he completely shines in training camp is also a very nice asset. Seider looks NHL ready too. Draisaitl even said Seider plays like a 30 year old veteran Edited June 2, 2019 by Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 The Above Average 2019 draft I canvassed NHL draft experts on the quality of this draft. The consensus seems to be this is a B/B+ draft. Not great, not bad, but good, maybe even very good. Here are their responses: Cam Robinson @Hockey_Robinson It may sound vanilla of me, but I’d rate this class around a B. It offers two elite, non-generational talents at the top. A handful of potentially impactful forwards. A possibly elite D and G, and then something of a mixed bag. 2020 is shaping up to be an A. Get excited for that. Scott Wheeler @scottcwheeler of The Athletic: B/B+ due to the depth of high-end Cs. I’d probably rank the last five drafts (tentatively) like this: 1. 2015 2. 2016 3. 2019 (with room to catch 2016 and room to fall behind 2018). 4. 2018 5. 2017 This draft is weak at D. Decent depth at goalie. Two A-level guys at the top. Steve Kournianos @TheDraftAnalyst Best draft after 2015 & 2018. Best center draft since 2015. Best goalie draft in years. Deep in Euro defensemen but not CHL. Best USHL crop in years. Historic NTDP group likely gets 7 players in top-20. 2015 A+ 2018 A 2019 A- 2016 B+ 2014 B 2017 B- Ryan Kennedy @THNRyanKennedy I would give it a solid ‘B.’ You’re getting two sure things in Hughes and Kakko, plus another tier with loads of potential (Turcotte, Byram, Cozens, Caufield, etc.)… I usually think of recent drafts based off the high end. So this year isn’t McDavid/Eichel or Matthews/Laine, but probably better than Hischier/Patrick HockeyProspect.com @ScoutingService Top 2 are in their own tier, very different players but both getting ranked #1 overall by team Scouts we’ve spoken to. 1st round as a whole would be weaker than recent drafts. Probably rate Rounds 2-7 weaker than recent drafts but probably not quite as bad as we initially thought… 3-12ish is a solid group. 1st round falls off more after that. Weak OHL class is a big factor. Without the great USNTDP group this 1st round would be really ugly. Chris Peters @chrismpeters of ESON I tend to agree with the answers you already got. I think it’s B, B+. I like the draft as a whole better than last years, but 2015 and 2016 were exceptional in comparison. Think 2019 Top 12 is excellent, tapers off more beyond that. Still good value beyond, but not exceptional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 9:53 AM, Whorvat said: Really glad you aren't running the Canucks You kidding me? If somebody offered a 1st for Gaudette, I'd jump on that immediately, without even blinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: 84 scouts - that' s impressive. Don’t wanna be a teams euro scout who slept on him do you! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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