taxi Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Undrafted said: Utter nonsense. What you describe as "society's attitudes moving to the left" is basic social progress which both sides used to work towards. That's what the "Progressive" part of the old Progressive Conservative parties used to mean and it is quite fitting that the current iteration of the federal party has dropped the word from it's name. The legality of homosexuality was NOT debated 30 years ago--30 years ago, it was 1988. When homosexuality was decriminalized in the 1960's, Pierre Trudeau wasn't even Prime Minister; he was the Justice Minister when he uttered that famous line about "the state having no place in the bedrooms of its citizens". At the same point in time in the US, the South were still trying to preserve racial segregation of blacks. That was over 50 years ago. It is social conservatives that are the ones who destroyed moderate conservatism. It used to be that it was a given that moderates on both sides agreed with secularism and the pursuit of equality for all. Now secularism is considered is viewed as 'anti-Christian', equality is viewed as 'political correctness' and both are considered positions of the "left". Is social conservatism a new thing? It's always fallen under the umbrella of conservatism with fiscal conservatism. What is considered socially conservative changes over time. Homosexuality was legalized in Canada on June 27, 1969 (so technically in the 1960s). However, debate about it's legality continued, and protection under the charter didn't occur until June 20, 1996. That was just an example. My point is that views aren't becoming more conservative. Compared to what exactly? The 1950s? Are you going to argue that modern conservative movements are less conservative than the ones in the 1950s? The point is that we are in a phase where there are fewer people gravitating towards the middle, and politicians now need to pander towards the extremes to get elected. The typical argument about some phantom enemy on the other side is what is motivating many towards these polarized attitudes, and that argument is nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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