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So I was reading that perhaps the two best teams in baseball this year (and the two biggest rivals) the Red Sox and Yankees, can't play in the ALCS and can only play in the ALDS...which is incredibly disappointing because that would have been a huge clash...a rematch almost 15 years in the making after their epic battles in 2003 and 2004. The way the standings work is that the team with the top record in their league (the Red Sox) play the winner of the Wild Card game (assuming the Yankees beat the Athletics).

 

How come it was possible for Boston and New York to play in 2003 and 2004? They were both in the same division back then too and only one team can win the division in the regular season. I'm guessing that back then you were seeded by record, not by whether you won your division or not?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, whcanuck said:

So I was reading that perhaps the two best teams in baseball this year (and the two biggest rivals) the Red Sox and Yankees, can't play in the ALCS and can only play in the ALDS...which is incredibly disappointing because that would have been a huge clash...a rematch almost 15 years in the making after their epic battles in 2003 and 2004. The way the standings work is that the team with the top record in their league (the Red Sox) play the winner of the Wild Card game (assuming the Yankees beat the Athletics).

 

How come it was possible for Boston and New York to play in 2003 and 2004? They were both in the same division back then too and only one team can win the division in the regular season. I'm guessing that back then you were seeded by record, not by whether you won your division or not?

 

 

i believe both vs ALCS

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For whatever reason, the rule back then was that two teams from the same division couldn't play in the league division series, at least according to this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_American_League_Division_Series. If the wild card winner and 1st place team were from the same division, the wild card team would play the 2nd place team.

 

When the league added a second wild card in 2012, the rule changed so that the 1st place team would play the wild card playoff winner no matter what. It's definitely too bad that the Yankees and Red Sox can't meet in this year's ALCS. Those two series you referenced were some of the best baseball I've ever watched.

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The playoff format was different then.

 

From '94 to 2011, the wild card team played the divisional champion outside its own division that had the better record, with the remaining two teams playing each other in the second Division Series for each league.

 

For example, in 2003, the Yankees were the best team in the AL.  The Oakland A's were the better of the two divisional winners that weren't in the AL East, so the Red Sox played the A's and the Yankees played the Twins.  This set up the Yankees - Red Sox ALCS.

 

Same basic thing happened in 2004, but with the Yankees playing the Twins and the Red Sox playing the Angels.

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Not so sure that the Yankees are the second best team in baseball.   The Astros have more wins, and have a more complete roster imho.  I'm loving the thought of the Yankees scratching and clawing to win a one game wild card game and then getting steamrolled by Boston.

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1 hour ago, Wash said:

Not so sure that the Yankees are the second best team in baseball.   The Astros have more wins, and have a more complete roster imho.  I'm loving the thought of the Yankees scratching and clawing to win a one game wild card game and then getting steamrolled by Boston.

This post is comedy:lol:. The Red Sox will always be the Yankees b****, don't ever forget that.

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So, Angel Hernandez has three calls overturned last night, as he seemingly guessed wrong on every close play at first...the best Twitter line was:

 

"It's a good thing Angel Hernandez wasn't involved in the Brown vs. Board of Education decision......it would have been overturned."

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The day after one of the worst displays of umpiring in playoff history, Ángel Hérnandez gets home plate for a potential Yankees-Red Sox clincher -- as he's suing Major League Baseball no less. Column on his Game 3 mess and his greater place in the sport:
 
 
 
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8 hours ago, Mackcanuck said:
Jeff PassanVerified account @JeffPassan
 
The day after one of the worst displays of umpiring in playoff history, Ángel Hérnandez gets home plate for a potential Yankees-Red Sox clincher -- as he's suing Major League Baseball no less. Column on his Game 3 mess and his greater place in the sport:
 
 
 

How can someone claim discrimination by the mlb for being of latino decent when it seems like half the league is latino

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No Salary Cap, No Care!

 

 

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MLB  Team Salary Payroll TrackerMLB Team Payroll Tracker

A real-time look at the 2018 payroll totals for each MLB team, including positional breakdowns.

 
 
 
 
Viewing:
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Team Salary PayrollTotal Cash Spending
Roster BreakdownPositional Breakdown
Rank
Team
Roster
25-Man
Disabled List
Retained
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Suspended
Total Payroll
1 Boston Red Sox 36 $167,955,780 $18,074,000 $42,210,860 $2,180,000 0- $228,398,860
2 San Francisco Giants 32 $119,689,218 $64,341,827 $21,136,053 $3,283,000 0- $205,665,348
3 Los Angeles Dodgers 40 $160,502,596 $3,908,850 $30,541,679 $5,590,000 0- $199,582,045
4 Chicago Cubs 37 $152,092,957 $37,451,220 $1,216,894 $2,725,000 $3,200,000 $194,259,933
5 Washington Nationals 35 $130,197,979 $8,999,485 $41,161,720 $4,481,000 0- $181,382,609
6 New York Yankees 38 $147,510,829 $22,568,376 $9,249,414 $3,130,000 0- $179,598,151
7 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 37 $91,914,083 $57,532,566 $24,194,770 $1,635,000 0- $173,784,989
8 St. Louis Cardinals 36 $113,991,329 $27,345,600 $20,907,798 $2,310,900 0- $163,784,311
9 Houston Astros 37 $158,696,310 $556,400 $4,027,264 $1,644,400 0- $163,524,216
10 Seattle Mariners 38 $136,839,663 $13,496,812 $9,361,340 $4,025,600 0- $160,993,827
11 Toronto Blue Jays 38 $81,307,997 $20,481,474 $48,740,616 $4,905,000 0- $150,946,147
12 New York Mets 33 $82,655,203 $49,831,436 $15,314,261 $5,452,000 $1,792,000 $150,187,987
13 Colorado Rockies 35 $131,213,168 $7,545,000 $4,442,400 $3,277,000 0- $143,968,544
14 Cleveland Indians 35 $123,670,545 $12,836,166 $5,222,548 $3,277,000 0- $142,804,703
15 Arizona Diamondbacks 35 $107,901,628 $14,124,025 $5,630,585 $15,151,500 0- $141,724,597
16 Texas Rangers 35 $96,239,016 $6,683,451 $36,936,251 $3,325,000 0- $140,625,018
League Average             139153883 $139,153,883
League Average
35
$97,672,178
$17,219,735
$22,422,727
$4,055,563
$284,567
$139,153,883
17 Detroit Tigers 33 $67,047,516 $37,720,870 $24,401,899 $4,187,600 0- $130,959,889
18 Atlanta Braves 37 $73,517,565 $13,299,094 $42,392,955 $5,180,000 0- $130,599,395
19 Kansas City Royals 30 $83,618,228 $7,189,167 $37,811,905 $4,398,500 0- $129,944,821
20 Baltimore Orioles 38 $69,691,407 $12,650,000 $40,717,656 $3,726,500 $3,000,000 $127,633,703
21 Minnesota Twins 36 $56,459,473 $29,213,890 $29,264,527 $1,670,000 0- $115,509,520
22 Milwaukee Brewers 36 $89,888,839 $7,321,500 $11,383,150 $3,275,700 0- $108,982,016
23 Philadelphia Phillies 40 $97,016,347 0- $6,936,684 $2,045,000 0- $104,297,471
24 San Diego Padres 33 $50,169,797 $6,764,800 $41,979,430 $4,274,200 $545,000 $101,343,635
25 Cincinnati Reds 31 $82,590,409 $1,344,890 $15,242,487 $3,850,000 0- $100,305,768
26 Miami Marlins 34 $43,516,964 $16,497,490 $31,020,460 $3,475,000 0- $91,817,860
27 Pittsburgh Pirates 34 $67,576,415 $5,215,500 $17,492,114 $2,757,000 0- $91,025,861
28 Oakland Athletics 37 $63,763,557 $5,464,310 $10,118,631 $3,275,000 0- $80,315,288
29 Chicago White Sox 32 $57,261,542 $5,920,130 $7,681,442 $4,935,000 0- $71,839,808
30 Tampa Bay Rays 35 $25,668,988 $2,213,706 $35,944,023 $8,225,000 0- $68,810,167

                               

 

I think the proposed Yankee outfield of Harper, Stanton and Judge next year will be more expensive than most teams payroll lol.  These number don't seem right, I didn't think my Giants would be 2nd.  But looks like they got more money on the DL than the Rays do as a whole.  If you go just by their 25 man roster it is below league average.  The Rays spent $25 mil on 25 players?  Is that right?

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CC is ripping Angel Hernandez after last night's loss, which is going to be the correct call 90% of the time.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/cc-sabathia-rips-umpire-angel-hernandez-hes-absolutely-terrible/

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“He’s absolutely terrible,” Sabathia told reporters, including Tim Healey of Newsday. “He was terrible behind the plate today. He was terrible at first base. It’s amazing how he’s getting jobs umpiring in these playoff games.

“I don’t understand why he’s doing these games,” Sabathia added. “It’s sad that he’s doing these games. It’s crazy.”

 

While I agree with CC in general, I thought Hernandez had a decent night behind the plate yesterday. Certainly, there were calls I thought he got wrong, but IMHO, it was far below his usual level of incompetence.

 

A bit of sour grapes on CC's part, methinks....

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