gameburn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, johngould21 said: It's too bad that the Leafs signed that Swedish kid, Nylander, for far too much money. I'd like to give him a shot with Pettersson. TDL, if the Canucks look like they're out of it, maybe Tanev could fetch him? Tanev plus Brisebois, and rights to Tryamkin? Or Woo, even? Nylander's contract is a serious anchor on the Leafs, even some of the Leafs have said as much. Get him now while his confidence is low and the Leafs are in fear of the Cap. We have cap and opportunity space; Nylander would love it here, EP and Boeser: 10 points bonus each and every season. A Stone signing is interesting too, but we'd never get him via trade, so UFA only. Imagine getting Stone AND Nylander? Lol. Baertschi, Horvat, Stone (or Virtanen in place of Baertschi in a yr or two.) Nylander, Pettersson, Boeser. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Well done, JB! Knows his stuff, and it shows. As for Edler...that's EXACTLY what I considered (mentor for Petey). Let's face it, anything we can do to make his time here better....do it. Despite his confidence, he also seems somewhat shy and reserved. His ability to conduct interviews and shutdown nonsense masks that, but he has mentioned on more than one occasion, other Swedes and how he sort of gravitates toward them and I think it's because it's familiar and comforting. Edler seems like an excellent mentor...shows up, does what's asked of him, not out there in the spotlight or making any sorts of waves and is just all business. His role in helping Petey find his groove here is huge to me. Plus, love him. When he stands guys up at the blueline there's no one better. He takes a lot of heat, but d men aren't perfect and it's just that their "gaffs" can stand out in a glaring way. When he's on, he's really on. Always enjoy your posts, you’ve identified a gem in the ridiculous ask Edler to waive portion of the CDC. Without Edler (and instead at best a late first, becuase let’s face it Vancouver is his home, and other teams know they won’t get him past a handful of regular season and playoff games) we risk too much. Paramount is treating NTC’s like they are toilet paper, Bennings word becomes dirt if he goes there. Negotiations for Pettersson, Boeser and Hughes gets worse, plus any UFA vets. This is something that could also get him fired, as the easiest way for the organization to rectify it would be to get an experienced GM who doesn’t do this into the fold. And then there is Pettersson to consider. Edler provides a level of familiarity and comfort that likely affects the way he plays (unhappy players aren’t as effective). There is just too many risks to not re-sign Edler. He’s been a fan favourite whipping boy for years, but all he does is show up and do enough to make him our best all-round defenseman. This is cautionary tale for those that think Hughes will be our defensive saviour too. He’s small, he won’t hit and doesn’t have a point shot (yet). It’s debatable if he will be used on the P.K., and of course he’s not going to be as effective in front of the net as bigger guys with more strength. In other words he’s no Edler. A PP specialist and top pairing guy? For sure. But he’s never going to bring the entire package, he’s not physically capable of that, where as at least for a few more years Edler can, and provide a shelter for him. What’s a 25-31st pick going to do for us? Gaunce or Shinkaruk or Mccaan most more likely than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, gameburn said: Tanev plus Brisebois, and rights to Tryamkin? Or Woo, even? Nylander's contract is a serious anchor on the Leafs, even some of the Leafs have said as much. Get him now while his confidence is low and the Leafs are in fear of the Cap. We have cap and opportunity space; Nylander would love it here, EP and Boeser: 10 points bonus each and every season. A Stone signing is interesting too, but we'd never get him via trade, so UFA only. Imagine getting Stone AND Nylander? Lol. Baertschi, Horvat, Stone (or Virtanen in place of Baertschi in a yr or two.) Nylander, Pettersson, Boeser. Seriously. why would this team be looking to strip mine it's blueline/futures for a small winger that doesn't really fit the needs of this team? Your Nylander EP BB line has no forecheck, no hard areas player, no one to create space and no real size to provide own-zone support for an undersized young center like Petterssson....it's an upgrade on Goldobin there, but the same limiting factors. And regardless - I have no idea why people are so anxious to dump Tryamkin rights into deals like this - let alone a top 4 RHD plus plus him and/or prospect D... Nylander is a talented guy, but a hard pass on the implications of this deal you propose. This team already has RHD prospects as a principal need - and a powerforward to play in the top 6 a second. This deal creates Leaf-like imbalance imo - something this team should steer away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Jim is on the ball. Great interview, which is shocking considering it was on 1040. Now I know why I missed it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, WalkWithElias40 said: Jim Benning, you are one hell of a GM, i can see him getting a top 6 forward at the TDL IF we still in the playoff race.. but Sautner has been pretty good at his game in UTICA, we have soo much depth at DEFENCE, i see Benning letting go of some prospects not named Juolevi and Sautner for a top 6 forward.. maybe like Goldy and defence Prospect not named Juolevi and Sautner for top 6 forward.. Hopefully not Woo either. He’ll be a beauty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said: Well done, JB! Knows his stuff, and it shows. As for Edler...that's EXACTLY what I considered (mentor for Petey). Let's face it, anything we can do to make his time here better....do it. Despite his confidence, he also seems somewhat shy and reserved. His ability to conduct interviews and shutdown nonsense masks that, but he has mentioned on more than one occasion, other Swedes and how he sort of gravitates toward them and I think it's because it's familiar and comforting. Edler seems like an excellent mentor...shows up, does what's asked of him, not out there in the spotlight or making any sorts of waves and is just all business. His role in helping Petey find his groove here is huge to me. Plus, love him. When he stands guys up at the blueline there's no one better. He takes a lot of heat, but d men aren't perfect and it's just that their "gaffs" can stand out in a glaring way. When he's on, he's really on. Agree wholeheartedly with this reply. It's always an ambiguous statement when talking about veteran players and their mentorship roles since we don't know what goes on in the dressing room and off ice, but if it's working for Petey, don't touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Hard to actually get, but I like his statement that we need another top 6 scorer (probably a LW or a guy that can play all the forward positions) in combination with saying we need another D (he has been saying for two years that he wants an offensive RD). We are at a point where we can start considering hockey trades to fill holes, rather than just having holes everywhere to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Attila Umbrus said: I honestly think Benning is just keeping quiet on McEneny so other teams don't try and poach him. I've watched a lot of Comets hockey this year and he really is looking good out there! It kinda reminds me how Benning slipped Markstrom through waivers that first year he was here, teams had a chance to pick him up but never went for it. Marky went down and dominated on the farm, earned his call up once he was ready and hasn't looked back. I just feel he is very elusive with McEneny which leads me to belive he is still high on him but doesn't want to give it away. McEneny is a UFA at the end of the season and Benning not even a week ago said he doesn't expect him to get games this year. He talked of wanting to see Sautner, Brisebois and Chatfield though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Zhukini said: I liked what he said about Edler as I've resigned to him just not having the personality to just want to stay in Vancouver forever, win lose or dra The only thing I didn't like was his reasoning, the whole it's only been done once in a decade argument. Didn't seem to stop Toronto. There are only a few cases where it would be possible, and Edler is one of them, if you're not expecting it to work, then chances are it won't. Im only hazarding a guess, but Im thinking it was GM talk for the fact that they like and respect Edler as person/player and dont want to ask him to waive his NTC (coupled with the fact they would like to bring him back anyways). If he had of said that media probably would have ripped on him for too much respect/loyalty or even on Edler for a sense of entitlement- I dont know. Eddy doesnt seem like the relaxed kind of guy anyways that wants to move around and switch teams anyways even if its for the short term. JB probably just doesnt want to talk about Edler's personal preferences perhaps- again I dont know lol. Just spit ballin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Doesn't sound like Benning wants to trade any of the young guys, including Goldobin, or picks. He also wants to keep the D. I'm not sure how he'll manage to bring in a Dman and a top 6 winger by trading Sutter, Schaller and Granlund. Should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I have no problem with them wanting to keep Edler, he is happy here and has been playing well this season. We can only speculate as to what he brings to the room for those younger guys. I'm sure a trade and re-sign would get a decent return, not the end of the world if that could never happen. I like the direction the team is going, we do have some decent D prospects in the system, Demko and DiPietro in the pipes. I feel that Woo's game will land him a NHL gig in the coming seasons as well. Obviously Quinn will be a boost on the back end, I would like to try imagine a world where Tryamkin would come back overseas but I still doubt he will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I like that they are eyeballing Sautner. I was really hoping Poo would find his way with this team. but if the team does move on from him Sautner would probably be a great 5-6 guy with his all around game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Jim knows. I like what he’s said. He’s focused on our future, and not going to piss away our promising prospects nor our draft picks because he knows his scouting. Plus, it has been proven that our drafting team has hit some home runs recently and could continue the trend in this upcoming draft that is said to be pretty strong. Like what he’s said about Edler as well. He’s a leader, mentor to Petey and the current longest serving Canuck. He’s been very loyal to our franchise despite how brutal the fans and media have been to him at times. If he can instil that same loyalty in EP40 we will be golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Canckelhead said: Would have been nice to hear him say he'd like to try and get a couple more higher picks if possible Hard to get picks when your on the thick of a playoff race. Stand pat and see what kind of heart/fight these young guys have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: It would also have been nice to hear him say that PhillipBlunt is the supreme leader and overlord, but I ain't holding my breath. Jim doesn’t seem like the kind of man who wastes words on things we already know are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Wasn't this Linden's plan all along? Draft and develop over the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, riffraff said: Jim doesn’t seem like the kind of man who wastes words on things we already know are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Wasn't this Linden's plan all along? Draft and develop over the long haul. Linden was weak and needed to be removed from the inner sanctum. He was smoted as such, and banished back to some realm called...Club 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Doesn't sound like Benning wants to trade any of the young guys, including Goldobin, or picks. He also wants to keep the D. I'm not sure how he'll manage to bring in a Dman and a top 6 winger by trading Sutter, Schaller and Granlund. Should be interesting In didn’t get that, I got that he didn’t want to trade away our top young guys. Boeser, Horvat, Petterson, and Hughes are probably those guys. Maybe add in DiPietro, and Juolevi. It sounded to me like Goldobin has a short leash and doesn’t have long to prove himself. Benning said he would do hockey trades. If he got a young club controlled top 4 offensive RHD and had to give up a guy like Virtanen as part of the package, I don’t think that is off the table at all. He also keeps saying specifically he isn’t going to trade THIS year’s picks. Not just picks in general. 2020 picks are absolutely in play it sounds like... again not for rentals, but for young guys to fill needed spots on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Provost said: In didn’t get that, I got that he didn’t want to trade away our top young guys. Boeser, Horvat, Petterson, and Hughes are probably those guys. Maybe add in DiPietro, and Juolevi. It sounded to me like Goldobin has a short leash and doesn’t have long to prove himself. Benning said he would do hockey trades. If he got a young club controlled top 4 offensive RHD and had to give up a guy like Virtanen as part of the package, I don’t think that is off the table at all. He also keeps saying specifically he isn’t going to trade THIS year’s picks. Not just picks in general. 2020 picks are absolutely in play it sounds like... again not for rentals, but for young guys to fill needed spots on our roster. I would think (or hope) that the Canucks training staff and coaches would've been spending time with guys like Goldobin during the break to help with his development. Goldy can't really work on that on his own. It seems his issue is how he plays away from the puck, and his d-game/back-checking etc. Maybe Benning couldn't get anything for Goldobin, which is why he's keeping him? The only way Goldobin is going to learn is if he plays, a lot. Get him back in Jim or trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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