Alflives Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Isn't all about who comes back and how they fit? I think anyone of those you list could go. If Cap space is needed to make another move happen it could be BB. Possibly the trade value is greater in BB. I am like you I like Garland and felt he hasn't got a fair shake. That said does he fit the PA mold. He might be easier to move. AB is more a question mark. I like to see him play more. There has to be room made for Hogs as he has more to show us in the NHL. Hogs will take Garland’s place and be an improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Isn't all about who comes back and how they fit? I think anyone of those you list could go. If Cap space is needed to make another move happen it could be BB. Possibly the trade value is greater in BB. I am like you I like Garland and felt he hasn't got a fair shake. That said does he fit the PA mold. He might be easier to move. AB is more a question mark. I like to see him play more. There has to be room made for Hogs as he has more to show us in the NHL. I think at this point, it's not really about who's coming back which is a better fit, it's more about who can we trade that won't cost us assets as well to move. I think Garland and AB are on fair contracts and shouldn't cost to move. We might not get a good return but if the purpose is to shed cap, then maybe that's what they do. Boeser is probably overpaid by 1.5 m. He however has size compared to the other two but has been underperforming due to external factors as well as injuries. I think a healthy motivated Boeser's ceiling is a 70 PT player (which he has never achieved) At this point, I'd cut bait with him too. Use your head not your heart. The guys previous best is 56 pts.. His agent did good work. Edited May 8, 2023 by CanucksJay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-AJ- Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: But he needs to go back to #36 long-term. That #21 sweater is death for him. He wore #36 all year this year in Abbotsford. It's quite likely he wears #36 in the NHL again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Only because Chase Wouters was wearing 21 with Abby. I suspect Höglander was wearing 21 to honour Salming. Could be the case. I didn't consider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Interesting article, which lays out contract options for Hoglander. My 10 yr old said to me the other night: "You thought Hogs was going to be a top six. You were really excited." I was. And i am. Signing him for 4 years at 2.6 seems a reasonable risk/reward scenario to me. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/should-the-canucks-bet-on-nils-hoglander-with-a-long-term-deal-7074142 Bear for 2.7m seems ok too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I expect Hogs will be offered a 3 year bridge deal. What might surprise is if he wants a 1 year deal instead. He experienced the bite of NHL reality last year. Does he respect the Canuck decision to send him down or does he think he is good enough to test elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, Boudrias said: I expect Hogs will be offered a 3 year bridge deal. What might surprise is if he wants a 1 year deal instead. He experienced the bite of NHL reality last year. Does he respect the Canuck decision to send him down or does he think he is good enough to test elsewhere? When is Hogs a UFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: When is Hogs a UFA? If the Canucks don't offer him a contract this summer he could become a UFA. More realistically, he could become a UFA in 4 years depending on the length of any contracts he may sign between now and then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: If the Canucks don't offer him a contract this summer he could become a UFA. More realistically, he could become a UFA in 4 years depending on the length of any contracts he may sign between now and then. That’s what I thought. So any contract Hogs gets isn’t going to be much. He’s under team control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 22 hours ago, Rick Blight said: If the Canucks don't offer him a contract this summer he could become a UFA. More realistically, he could become a UFA in 4 years depending on the length of any contracts he may sign between now and then. Isn't Hogs a RFA? Only 22 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Boudrias said: Isn't Hogs a RFA? Only 22 years old. Yup. But we will obviously sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insensitive Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 6:53 AM, Boudrias said: I expect Hogs will be offered a 3 year bridge deal. What might surprise is if he wants a 1 year deal instead. He experienced the bite of NHL reality last year. Does he respect the Canuck decision to send him down or does he think he is good enough to test elsewhere? You sign him to the 3 year bridge. Tocchet will love Hogs and given the choice I'm positive that he would have had him with the big club for the entire season. There's no question that Hogs is a middle 6 forward and next season will be a breakout for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/8/2023 at 8:34 AM, CanucksJay said: I think at this point, it's not really about who's coming back which is a better fit, it's more about who can we trade that won't cost us assets as well to move. I think Garland and AB are on fair contracts and shouldn't cost to move. We might not get a good return but if the purpose is to shed cap, then maybe that's what they do. Boeser is probably overpaid by 1.5 m. He however has size compared to the other two but has been underperforming due to external factors as well as injuries. I think a healthy motivated Boeser's ceiling is a 70 PT player (which he has never achieved) At this point, I'd cut bait with him too. Use your head not your heart. The guys previous best is 56 pts.. His agent did good work. I agree Boeser is overpaid at 6.6 million should be paid in 5.1--5.4 range. So retain 1.4 million and try and trade Boeser or Garland. Boeser 26 - 6.6 millionX 2 yrs - retain 1.2 million and try an move - GP 75 - G 22-25 - PTS -- 58-64 Garland 27 - 4.9 million X 3 yrs - retain maybe 500,000 -- GP 75 - G 22-24 - PTS 52 --58 ( playing PP Beauvillier 25- 4 mil X 1 yr -- GP 75 -- G 18--22. PTS 46--50 Two of these 3 forwards to be moved.. Myers should be easier to move after July 1st bonus is paid. Only 1 million will be left for new team and Myers contract help teams under cap? Arizona or Ducks? Not easy as Myers has 10 team no trade list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, wildcam said: I agree Boeser is overpaid at 6.6 million should be paid in 5.1--5.4 range. So retain 1.4 million and try and trade Boeser or Garland. Boeser 26 - 6.6 millionX 2 yrs - retain 1.2 million and try an move - GP 75 - G 22-25 - PTS -- 58-64 Garland 27 - 4.9 million X 3 yrs - retain maybe 500,000 -- GP 75 - G 22-24 - PTS 52 --58 ( playing PP Beauvillier 25- 4 mil X 1 yr -- GP 75 -- G 18--22. PTS 46--50 Two of these 3 forwards to be moved.. Myers should be easier to move after July 1st bonus is paid. Only 1 million will be left for new team and Myers contract help teams under cap? Arizona or Ducks? Not easy as Myers has 10 team no trade list. My understanding is Myers 5 million bonus is paid out around Sept 29th or just prior to the start of next season. (not July 1st) Most teams will have spent their available cap space by then. After that point he could become an attractive option for teams. Not sure if the teams that have the cap space will be intrested, as most of them won't be contenders. I suppose 2 or 3 of those teams trying to reach the cap floor could have intresest...i would add the blackhawks to your list as well. His 10 team no trade list may handcuff us a bit. If he didn't want to be traded, he could submit a no trade list with every team that has cap space for his contract. Edited June 2, 2023 by Blitz-Pix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/25/2023 at 3:04 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Apparently he wears 21 in his international play and he wore it before he came to the NHL, so the Salming angle might not be entirely correct. However, he was blocked from wearing it initially with the big team because some other Swede with a little more tenure than he had was wearing that number... Unfortunately, that number will be next to be retired and Hogs will be unable to wear it. The King shall be remembered always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Blitz-Pix said: My understanding is Myers 5 million bonus is paid out around Sept 29th or just prior to the start of next season. (not July 1st) Most teams will have spent their available cap space by then. After that point he could become an attractive option for teams. Not sure if the teams that have the cap space will be intrested, as most of them won't be contenders. I suppose 2 or 3 of those teams trying to reach the cap floor could have intresest...i would add the blackhawks to your list as well. His 10 team no trade list may handcuff us a bit. If he didn't want to be traded, he could submit a no trade list with every team that has cap space for his contract. Don't you just trade Myers + $5m for a pick what ever that may be. His salary is then $1m per season. I recall money was included in the Gretzky trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Fred65 said: Don't you just trade Myers + $5m for a pick what ever that may be. His salary is then $1m per season. I recall money was included in the Gretzky trade I don’t believe money can be included in the trade anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 5:47 AM, Boudrias said: Isn't Hogs a RFA? Only 22 years old. Yeah I sure hope Canucks keep Hoglander so much speed and gritty play in his game.. Hoglander ,Sign 1 yr X 1.1 million deal show me more one way deal.. Podkolzin, sign 2 yrs X 1.3--1.6 million show me more one way deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen1010 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Is Hogs now open to offer sheets? Would hate to lose him that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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