Former player accuses Flames head coach Bill Peters of using racial slur -- Peters resigns

[Squamfan]

28 minutes ago, HKSR said:

From the point of view that any NHL franchise is a professional organization that reaches audiences across the world, then yes... the punishment is in line with what many professional organizations would do.

then why is blackface still our Prime Minster

[Alflives]

32 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

I wonder how long until Treliving gets canned as well.  

I think Treliving has this season.  No playoffs, or another crappy playoffs, and he’s gonzo too.  I could see a new GM breaking up the Flame’s core too.  Which core guy gets traded?  Little Johnny? 

[Squamfan]

13 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

but its a business based almost entirely on people and persona's. How do you trot Peters back out under that kind of situation? its not an allegation anymore, he admitted to it. Not sure how you ever recover from that in this kind of public business. 

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, Squamfan said:

then why is blackface still our Prime Minster

He wears black face, and only pushes women in parliament.  That’s, not the n word and kicking men.  

Pour PM actually got votes after black faces and pushing a woman in parliament!  

[Tortorella's Rant]

5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

While I do believe that Peters has a body of work as a coach way out of touch with his players and players in general, there is something slightly Orwellian about the practice lately of digging into someone’s past to find something damning to vilify them with. 

And if one player is caught on camera calling another a faggot, should he be ineligible from ever playing in the NHL again? This has obviously happened before. It happens all the time on the ice if you've played hockey at any sort of level competitively. By the standard set here today that answer would be yes. 

There has to be a standard but this one infraction and you're done standard we've set is unacceptable. Basically, we're asking fallible entities to be perfect every time all the time.

[HKSR]

5 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

then why is blackface still our Prime Minster

Because there's a democratic process, and the process had him get back into his position.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

And if one player is caught on camera calling another a faggot, should he be ineligible from ever playing in the NHL again? This has obviously happened before. It happens all the time on the ice if you've played hockey at any sort of level competitively. By the standard set here today that answer would be yes. 

There has to be a standard but this one infraction and you're done standard we've set is unacceptable. Basically, we're asking fallible entities to be perfect every time all the time.

Good post. 

[Alflives]

Just now, HKSR said:

Because there's a democratic process, and the process had him get backBLACK into his position.

Fify. 

[RonMexico]

5 minutes ago, Jaimito said:

I think it was just an excuse to fire him due to poor performance.  Now the team has someone to blame.   

 

That's what I was getting at. It's an easy kill shot with the team sucking.

[JM_]

9 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Because there's a democratic process, and the process had him get back into his position.

^ this. But this makes too much sense for some people. 

[PhillipBlunt]

14 minutes ago, Alflives said:

What about judging people for what they might, or will do in the future?  

Minority Report, here we come. 

[Jaimito]

Just now, PhillipBlunt said:

Minority Report, here we come. 

The world of PreCrime

[Squamfan]

9 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Because there's a democratic process, and the process had him get back into his position.

the libreals could have asked him to resign or fired him

[PhillipBlunt]

9 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

And if one player is caught on camera calling another a faggot, should he be ineligible from ever playing in the NHL again?

Good point. Shaw is playing for Chicago again. They seemingly forgave him.....

9 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

This has obviously happened before. It happens all the time on the ice if you've played hockey at any sort of level competitively. By the standard set here today that answer would be yes. 

There has to be a standard but this one infraction and you're done standard we've set is unacceptable. Basically, we're asking fallible entities to be perfect every time all the time.

There seems to be a portion of modern day society that is infallible and they are getting to decide what happens. 

[HKSR]

Just now, Squamfan said:

the libreals could have asked him to resign or fired him

Ok then.  Let's fire our Prime Minister.  The Americans should also fire their President.

[JM_]

8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Good post. 

except it whiffs on the concept of responsibility. Peters (as we all are) is responsible for his actions. Of course we all &^@# up, but you are also judged on your behaviour after and things you may have done to set things right. Doesn't seem like Peters did anything to change his odd behaviour in the last 10 years, and I don't see much of an apology for the Aliu incident. 

[Tortorella's Rant]

10 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Because there's a democratic process, and the process had him get back into his position.

But Peters is wrong and should be reprimanded. Trudeau effectively gets a free pass because insert some nonsensical argument here.

[Tortorella's Rant]

Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

except it whiffs on the concept of responsibility. Peters (as we all are) is responsible for his actions. Of course we all &^@# up, but you are also judged on your behaviour after and things you may have done to set things right. Doesn't seem like Peters did anything to change his odd behaviour in the last 10 years, and I don't see much of an apology for the Aliu incident. 

Hasn't changed his behavior based on what? The complete absence of evidence he has dropped an N bomb since in any context?

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

the libreals could have asked him to resign or fired him

did you miss the public apologizing part? people actually effected by the images took him at his word, and we all got a chance to vote him out if we waned to. 

[Standing_Tall#37]

15 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

And if one player is caught on camera calling another a faggot, should he be ineligible from ever playing in the NHL again? This has obviously happened before. It happens all the time on the ice if you've played hockey at any sort of level competitively. By the standard set here today that answer would be yes. 

There has to be a standard but this one infraction and you're done standard we've set is unacceptable. Basically, we're asking fallible entities to be perfect every time all the time.

That’s the #1 chirp on any team when you’re looking for it.