aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Just scrolling through Eriksson contract comparables on Capfriendly and came across Dustin 'Potato' Brown and wondered if there might be a way to swap him and Eriksson around for 'minimal' cost. Even if after Eriksson's July bonus is paid this summer. In exchange, they save on actual cash left owing. Eriksson's only got prorated $1m salary left owing this season then $4m and $4m (salary + bonuses) vs Brown's prorated $5.5m then $4 and $4m (all salary). Or even more savings after Eriksson's bonus of only $5m left owing over 2 years vs Brown's $8m over two. They get the one year younger player, actual cash savings and some rebuild assets. We get a still productive (0.5ppg'ish) and physical player and rid of the negative distraction that is Eriksson (and save $125k in cap space). Brown might even mesh well with Horvat (or perhaps Gaudette etc on a 3rd line). Brown likely waives his MNTC to come play with an up and coming team with a shot at playoffs, still in the same time zone/relatively close to the city he's called home for a decade +. Now the real question becomes what rebuild asset(s) we'd be willing to give up to make this happen and how much this would cost for LAK to consider.... Edited December 11, 2019 by aGENT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I like the idea of Brown, but the term and dollars is a no. The longer LE stays up, when clearly he should be in Utica tells me that he's retiring after his July 2020 bonus. That's better than having Brown on the books for the extra years. If JB doesn't have the gentleman's deal with LE, then I'd want to make the deal, but would include Madden (who is light (155) still, so may stay the full four years in college to mature more physically) and keep Lockwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Alflives said: I like the idea of Brown, but the term and dollars is a no. The longer LE stays up, when clearly he should be in Utica tells me that he's retiring after his July 2020 bonus. That's better than having Brown on the books for the extra years. If JB doesn't have the gentleman's deal with LE, then I'd want to make the deal, but would include Madden (who is light (155) still, so may stay the full four years in college to mature more physically) and keep Lockwood. You and your “gentleman’s agreement” theory is just wishful thinking. There’s literally nothing that indicates that’s the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: You and your “gentleman’s agreement” theory is just wishful thinking. There’s literally nothing that indicates that’s the case. Rick Dhaliwal said, at the start of the season, that Green wanted to send Loui to Utica, but JB blocked that move. Loui should be in Utica, but he's not. What other reason is there for Loui to still be on the team? And there will never be any solid evidence of a player and an owner/GM having a gentleman's agreement. Look at the Luongo retirement last summer, and now he's got some pseudo assistant GM job in FLA. Luongo gave up 3 million dollars, and the Panthers hire him to a job where his salary doesn't need to be disclosed. There will never be actual evidence of a gentleman's deal; hence the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I like it, in part because the buy out isn't too bad. He's also more productive than Loui, and can add in some physical play and bring some playoff experience. Brown has a 7 team no trade list so we may not be on that, so it could be out of his hands too. LA needs young assets of course.... my concern would be them demanding Woo, e.g., but if they were willing to look at a combo of something like Madden and Raffety or Briesbois, something along those lines then yup. That d group tho... what a train wreck. Maybe Breezy and Raffety and Loui for Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alflives said: Rick Dhaliwal said, at the start of the season, that Green wanted to send Loui to Utica, but JB blocked that move. Loui should be in Utica, but he's not. What other reason is there for Loui to still be on the team? And there will never be any solid evidence of a player and an owner/GM having a gentleman's agreement. Look at the Luongo retirement last summer, and now he's got some pseudo assistant GM job in FLA. Luongo gave up 3 million dollars, and the Panthers hire him to a job where his salary doesn't need to be disclosed. There will never be actual evidence of a gentleman's deal; hence the term. There literally could be a dozen or more reasons. Including keeping a good relationship with Ericksson’s very powerful agent. You assuming that it’s proof of a gentleman’s agreement is just wishful thinking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Dustin Brown's last three season 0.74PPG, 0.71 PPG, and 0.53 PPG this season and 3rd scorer of his team and a combined +16 during these 3 years. 2 more years at 5.875M$ Loui Eriksson's last three season 0.46PPG, 0.36 PPG and 0.06PPG this season and dead last scorer of his team and a combined -14 during these years. 2 more years at 6M$ This is not even comparable, not even close to Neal vs Lucic deal either. You would need to add significantly for LA to take that deal. Edited December 11, 2019 by timberz21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, qwijibo said: There literally could be a dozen or more reasons. Including keeping a good relationship with Ericksson’s very powerful agent. You assuming that it’s proof of a gentleman’s agreement is just wishful thinking why? its happened before. Its not like @Alflives is making up some new category of shenanigans. Luongo clearly had a handshake deal in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: why? its happened before. Its not like @Alflives is making up some new category of shenanigans. Luongo clearly had a handshake deal in place. Alflives is assuming it’s the only explanation. It’s one possible explanation, and not even the most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, qwijibo said: There literally could be a dozen or more reasons. Including keeping a good relationship with Ericksson’s very powerful agent. You assuming that it’s proof of a gentleman’s agreement is just wishful thinking pretty sure Alf said there would be not proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 LA is much closer to Dallas where Eriksson's family is living. Dustin Brown would probably like the prospect of playing for a possible playoff team for his last 3 years. Maybe + Tryamkin's rights? There is no guarantee he will be playing for us after his contract is up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 WTF? People want to trade TYLER MADDEN to dump Loui? Are you serious?? Madden is a stud, he may be better than Gaudette. He could be this year's Hobey Baker award winner. This is nuts... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nucks will have to pay with a pick prospect and a bad contract coming back for anyone to even consider taking LE and even then it would be a long shot. Waivers and Utica the best and only option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: WTF? People want to trade TYLER MADDEN to dump Loui? Are you serious?? Madden is a stud, he may be better than Gaudette. He could be this year's Hobey Baker award winner. This is nuts... Does Alf qualify as 'people'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: Does Alf qualify as 'people'? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, lmm said: pretty sure Alf said there would be not proof thats the genius of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, timberz21 said: You would need to add significantly for LA to take that deal. So what's the happy medium? Who does it make sense for us to give up that would be enough for LAK to consider and make sense for us to give up? Edited December 11, 2019 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: WTF? People want to trade TYLER MADDEN to dump Loui? Are you serious?? Madden is a stud, he may be better than Gaudette. He could be this year's Hobey Baker award winner. This is nuts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: So what's the happy medium? Who does it make sense for us to give up that would be enough for LAK to consider? anyone not named Juolevi, Tryamkin, Rathbone, Lind, Woo, Hoglander, Podkolzin, Lockwood or DiPietro. Take 2 even. It has to be for a couple of our "B" prospects, thats really the only option. Maybe a 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I guess one thought could also be trading Stecher and Loui for Brown. LA really needs NHL quality d and Stech certainly fits in on their top 4 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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