RetroCanuck Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Haven't done one of these in a while so here it goes. In my opinion the Canucks are going into a bit of a cap crunch, but I do think there are things they can do. 1st: Sit Eriksson this playoffs. His feet are too slow and we need higher energy/pace guys in the bottom 6. Ideally Eriksson takes this as a major slight and retires or mutually agrees to terminate his contract. If not Id waive him first thing next season with again the hope being he retires, instead of playing in Utica. 2nd: Put Ferland on LTIR. His concussion symptoms have continued for nearly a whole year. One more bad hit could put his long term health at risk and no one wants that. 3rd (and most controversial): Let Markstrom walk. After this season he's going to demand a major raise and I don't think the Canucks can necessarily pay such a price. Not to mention it was his contract year and he doesn't have a long resume of quality years. - Id rather start the hand over of the reins to Demko and sign a cheaper goalie to split/ backup Demko depending on Demko's play. Maybe Holtby or Anderson. 4th: Trade Pearson. He's on a good contract going into his contract year. Id imagine he could demand a 2nd round pick. His ice time is also easily replaceable by our other forwards. Resign Tanev, Toffoli, Stecher, Gaudette, MacEwen and Virtanen for sure. Then if theres available space resign Leivo and Motte. Trade Benn or more likely waive him and hope he retires. My ideal line-up going into next year Miller-Pettersson-Toffoli Virtanen-Horvat-Boeser Leivo-Gaudette-MacEwen Roussel-Beagle-Sutter Motte Hughes-Tanev Edler-Stecher Brisebois-Myers Rafferty Demko Holtby 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 For shtts and giggles, I like it! 2 small thoughts I would move Leivo onto the 2nd line...(Better hands) and I would like to see Virtanen and McEwen play with Gaudette and I really think Rathbone will impress and earn a spot......as will Brisebois PS.......Really like the Holtby idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Agreed with your 1st two points. Not sure about the point in letting Marky go, depending on how many suitors he has Holtby could probably still demand at least $5 million (he's currently at $6.1) and wonder if Anderson's honestly too old at 40 to have many more good years. I'm also of the camp of possibly trading Demko if the team still isn't sold on him as the #1 by the crossroads at the E.D. of who to protect. Pearson I'm torn, he's shown good chemistry in a shutdown role with Bo but yes he can price himself out. If Jake takes that next step I'd be for it. Also Stecher's probably priced out too Edited July 18, 2020 by Phil_314 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Haven't done one of these in a while so here it goes. In my opinion the Canucks are going into a bit of a cap crunch, but I do think there are things they can do. 1st: Sit Eriksson this playoffs. His feet are too slow and we need higher energy/pace guys in the bottom 6. Ideally Eriksson takes this as a major slight and retires or mutually agrees to terminate his contract. If not Id waive him first thing next season with again the hope being he retires, instead of playing in Utica. 2nd: Put Ferland on LTIR. His concussion symptoms have continued for nearly a whole year. One more bad hit could put his long term health at risk and no one wants that. 3rd (and most controversial): Let Markstrom walk. After this season he's going to demand a major raise and I don't think the Canucks can necessarily pay such a price. Not to mention it was his contract year and he doesn't have a long resume of quality years. - Id rather start the hand over of the reins to Demko and sign a cheaper goalie to split/ backup Demko depending on Demko's play. Maybe Holtby or Anderson. 4th: Trade Pearson. He's on a good contract going into his contract year. Id imagine he could demand a 2nd round pick. His ice time is also easily replaceable by our other forwards. Resign Tanev, Toffoli, Stecher, Gaudette, MacEwen and Virtanen for sure. Then if theres available space resign Leivo and Motte. Trade Benn or more likely waive him and hope he retires. My ideal line-up going into next year Miller-Pettersson-Toffoli Virtanen-Horvat-Boeser Leivo-Gaudette-MacEwen Roussel-Beagle-Sutter Motte Hughes-Tanev Edler-Stecher Brisebois-Myers Rafferty Demko Holtby i believe benning said 5 months ago theres about 7 prospects he believes are nhl ready that they willbe slowly bringing up soo rathbone rafferty juolevi brisebois macewen hoglander jasek lind all have shots next yr its doubtful ufas tanev stecher and leivo are coming back holtby doesnt look that good thins yr if ur not resigning markstrom go with demko and sign a backup like ryan miller the next yr podzolkin arrives Edited July 18, 2020 by canuktravella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 My trouble with any proposal these days is the cost of assets to get rid of assets Unless we let them just walk (And regrettably they are the ones).......it will cost us picks and some of those 7 prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Leivo days as a Canuck are over he hasn’t even started skating yet, best case scenario for him is a PTO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Eriksson might actually be thankful to be sent to the minors. His salary won’t be subject to escrow in the minors. He’d literally make $800k more playing in Utica than in Vancouver. That said. People were saying the exact same thing last offseason, essentially saying he was as good as gone because he’d be waived. Guess what. Never got waived. I doubt he does this year either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Gonna have a much harder time re signing Toffoli if you trade his best bud away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 9 hours ago, billabong said: Leivo days as a Canuck are over he hasn’t even started skating yet, best case scenario for him is a PTO Actually that probably increases his chance of being a Canuck. He was way outperforming his contract and in line for a raise that would have priced him off our team. Now he is likely looking at a 1 year deal to see if he is healthy at the same price as now. If we don’t sign Toffoli and/or manage to rid ourselves of Virtanen, Leivo is a good placeholder until Podkolzin arrives and earns minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Provost said: Actually that probably increases his chance of being a Canuck. He was way outperforming his contract and in line for a raise that would have priced him off our team. Now he is likely looking at a 1 year deal to see if he is healthy at the same price as now. If we don’t sign Toffoli and/or manage to rid ourselves of Virtanen, Leivo is a good placeholder until Podkolzin arrives and earns minutes. leivo is done as a canuck knee must be really damaged to be not playing 7 months later maybe hes gonna sign in europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On July 17, 2020 at 5:20 PM, RetroCanuck said: Haven't done one of these in a while so here it goes. In my opinion the Canucks are going into a bit of a cap crunch, but I do think there are things they can do. 1st: Sit Eriksson this playoffs. His feet are too slow and we need higher energy/pace guys in the bottom 6. Ideally Eriksson takes this as a major slight and retires or mutually agrees to terminate his contract. If not Id waive him first thing next season with again the hope being he retires, instead of playing in Utica. 2nd: Put Ferland on LTIR. His concussion symptoms have continued for nearly a whole year. One more bad hit could put his long term health at risk and no one wants that. 3rd (and most controversial): Let Markstrom walk. After this season he's going to demand a major raise and I don't think the Canucks can necessarily pay such a price. Not to mention it was his contract year and he doesn't have a long resume of quality years. - Id rather start the hand over of the reins to Demko and sign a cheaper goalie to split/ backup Demko depending on Demko's play. Maybe Holtby or Anderson. 4th: Trade Pearson. He's on a good contract going into his contract year. Id imagine he could demand a 2nd round pick. His ice time is also easily replaceable by our other forwards. Resign Tanev, Toffoli, Stecher, Gaudette, MacEwen and Virtanen for sure. Then if theres available space resign Leivo and Motte. Trade Benn or more likely waive him and hope he retires. My ideal line-up going into next year Miller-Pettersson-Toffoli Virtanen-Horvat-Boeser Leivo-Gaudette-MacEwen Roussel-Beagle-Sutter Motte Hughes-Tanev Edler-Stecher Brisebois-Myers Rafferty Demko Holtby Let Markstrom walk and Sign Holtby? Holtby will demand more then Markstrom..I think Markstrom is a better goalie ...Remember Holtby has been playing on a much better team then Holtby... We need a top #2 D Man -- Trade from your strength wingers for your weakest position... Sign Taffoli for at least 3to 4 years...Then trade Boeser for the top #2 D man to play big minutes with Hughes...Risto 6'3, 25 - 40 points - 25 mins fit is good.. Need to trade for this type of D man..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, wildcam said: Let Markstrom walk and Sign Holtby? Holtby will demand more then Markstrom..I think Markstrom is a better goalie ...Remember Holtby has been playing on a much better team then Holtby... We need a top #2 D Man -- Trade from your strength wingers for your weakest position... Sign Taffoli for at least 3to 4 years...Then trade Boeser for the top #2 D man to play big minutes with Hughes...Risto 6'3, 25 - 40 points - 25 mins fit is good.. Need to trade for this type of D man..... Demko is nearly/ is ready to play as the starter. Markstrom is going to demand a longterm contract whereas Holtby or Anderson wont. I heavily disagree with trading Boeser. Boeser's worst season is better then Toffoli's best. Plus he's younger. Let our young D grow. Juolevi, Brisebois, Woo, Rathbone and Rafferty all have the potential to be top 4 D in my opinion and we need to led them grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 22 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Demko is nearly/ is ready to play as the starter. Markstrom is going to demand a longterm contract whereas Holtby or Anderson wont. I heavily disagree with trading Boeser. Boeser's worst season is better then Toffoli's best. Plus he's younger. Let our young D grow. Juolevi, Brisebois, Woo, Rathbone and Rafferty all have the potential to be top 4 D in my opinion and we need to led them grow. We can't keep everyone..I disagree Taffoli is very good and plays a complete 200 foot game.. playing with Petey --GP 75 - 25-30 G - PTS 65 How good do you like Boeser will be? Playing with Petey at best Boeser GP 75 - G 33 A 35 -- PTS 68 Boeser is not a great skater, should score 25-33 goals if healthy....Boeser will demand 7.5 million next contract?????? Sorry can't afford him on his next contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Your dreams of Loui walking away from his contract look to be thoroughly crushed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 1:34 AM, billabong said: Leivo days as a Canuck are over he hasn’t even started skating yet, best case scenario for him is a PTO Yep. Slight chance he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, qwijibo said: Your dreams of Loui walking away from his contract look to be thoroughly crushed He’s not going anywhere- well maybe Utica. I’m fully prepared to not see him leaving until his contract is done. All these silly Demko and LE to OTT or DET proposals are borderline delusional. The next two years are going to be tough but we will get through it. It’s not like we have 4 players taking up half the cap either (hello TO ha ha ha ). Do we have issues? Sure ... but they are manageable. NO cap dumps. Accept TT is a rental. Get on with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, wildcam said: We can't keep everyone..I disagree Taffoli is very good and plays a complete 200 foot game.. playing with Petey --GP 75 - 25-30 G - PTS 65 How good do you like Boeser will be? Playing with Petey at best Boeser GP 75 - G 33 A 35 -- PTS 68 Boeser is not a great skater, should score 25-33 goals if healthy....Boeser will demand 7.5 million next contract?????? Sorry can't afford him on his next contract. What does this even mean? Can’t afford TT? Agree on that. Afford BB? For sure we can. Why would we sign TT when we have BB - younger option - already proven he can outperform or outproduce him. A lot of fans need a serious reality check - how many UFAs get their money and then just float? Well we have some on our team already and could give you a lot of other examples. TT is a luxury MAYBE we could afford a season from now. Absolutely plus something else the following one Edited July 20, 2020 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 2:55 PM, IBatch said: What does this even mean? Can’t afford TT? Agree on that. Afford BB? For sure we can. Why would we sign TT when we have BB - younger option - already proven he can outperform or outproduce him. A lot of fans need a serious reality check - how many UFAs get their money and then just float? Well we have some on our team already and could give you a lot of other examples. TT is a luxury MAYBE we could afford a season from now. Absolutely plus something else the following one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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