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Ivermectin Did Nothing To Help COVID-19 Patients, Large Study Finds

 
 

Ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug often used to deworm horses and cattle, does not reduce the risk of being hospitalized with COVID-19 despite its questionable rise as an alternative treatment for the disease, according to a large new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

 

The clinical trial, which began in 2020, analyzed more than 1,300 patients in Brazil who were infected with the coronavirus. Half were given ivermectin and half a placebo in the randomized, double-blind study, meaning neither doctors nor trial participants knew what a patient received.

 

The results confirmed what U.S. health officials have long stressed: Ivermectin did nothing to aid those sickened with the virus or reduce the risk of ending up in the hospital.

 

“Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of COVID-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of COVID-19,” researchers wrote Wednesday.

 

The data had been shared at a presentation to the National Institutes of Health last August, but the publication Wednesday was the first time results were shared in full.

 

more in the link https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivermectin-did-nothing-help-covid-035219773.html

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5 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Ivermectin Did Nothing To Help COVID-19 Patients, Large Study Finds

 
 

Ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug often used to deworm horses and cattle, does not reduce the risk of being hospitalized with COVID-19 despite its questionable rise as an alternative treatment for the disease, according to a large new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

 

The clinical trial, which began in 2020, analyzed more than 1,300 patients in Brazil who were infected with the coronavirus. Half were given ivermectin and half a placebo in the randomized, double-blind study, meaning neither doctors nor trial participants knew what a patient received.

 

The results confirmed what U.S. health officials have long stressed: Ivermectin did nothing to aid those sickened with the virus or reduce the risk of ending up in the hospital.

 

“Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of COVID-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of COVID-19,” researchers wrote Wednesday.

 

The data had been shared at a presentation to the National Institutes of Health last August, but the publication Wednesday was the first time results were shared in full.

 

more in the link https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivermectin-did-nothing-help-covid-035219773.html

In these two years what have been the antivaxxer go to snake oil cures?  

Hydroxichloriquine.

Fish Tank Cleaner

Bleach

Ivermectin

Urine

 

And some (here) have argued there are two sides to the whole antivaxxer issue, and we (normally thinking people) need to recognize and accept the antivaxxer views!  :lol:

 

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8 hours ago, Alflives said:

In these two years what have been the antivaxxer go to snake oil cures?  

Hydroxichloriquine.

Fish Tank Cleaner

Bleach

Ivermectin

Urine

 

And some (here) have argued there are two sides to the whole antivaxxer issue, and we (normally thinking people) need to recognize and accept the antivaxxer views!  :lol:

 

And plenty who thought God would cure them too.

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B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Thursday, March 31, 2022, 90.8% (4,528,450) of eligible people five and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 87.3% (4,352,964) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 93.5% (4,331,950) of eligible people 12 and older have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, 91.1% (4,220,991)have received their second dose and 57.5% (2,667,279) have received a third dose.

 

Also, 93.8% (4,056,892) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose, 91.5% (3,956,215) have received their second dose and 59.3% (2,564,549) have received a third dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 249 new cases of COVID-19, including one epi-linked case, for a total of 356,501 cases in the province.

 

The new cases include:

  • Fraser Health: 46
  • Vancouver Coastal Health: 55
  • Interior Health: 71
  • Northern Health: 21
  • Island Health: 56
  • People who reside outside of Canada: zero

There are 281 individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 and 42 are in intensive care.

 

In the past 24 hours, two new deaths (Fraser Health) have been reported, for an overall total of 2,998.

 

There have been two new health-care facility outbreaks at Parkview Place and Monahsee Mews (Interior Health), for a total of nine facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

  • Monahsee Mews (Interior Health)
  • The Heights at Mt. View, Selkirk Seniors Village, Amica Douglas House, Acacia Ty Mawr, Sunridge Place Seniors and Ayre Manor (Island Health)

acute care:

  • Surrey Memorial Hospital (Fraser Health)

assisted or independent living:

  • none

Complex Care: Parkview Place (Interior Health)

 

From March 23-29, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 17.3% of cases and from March 16-29 they accounted for 21.9% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (March 23-29) - Total 1,614

  • Not vaccinated: 256 (15.9%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 24 (1.4%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 1,334 (82.7%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (March 16-29) - Total 370

  • Not vaccinated: 69 (18.7%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 12 (3.2%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 289 (78.1%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (March 23-29)

  • Not vaccinated: 69.7
  • Partially vaccinated: 15.7
  • Fully vaccinated: 28.7

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (March 16-29)

  • Not vaccinated: 20.2
  • Partially vaccinated: 11.4
  • Fully vaccinated: 6.1

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 11,491,137 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022HLTH0106-000472

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COVID-19 outbreak is hitting Shanghai "harder than authorities have publicly disclosed"

  • Wall Street Journal with the report on unrevealed cases and deaths in China
  • Many patients have died in recent days at a large Shanghai elderly-care hospital that is battling a Covid-19 outbreak, according to people familiar with the situation, a sign that a new wave of infections is hitting China’s financial capital harder than authorities have publicly disclosed.
  • Shanghai’s government hasn’t reported any Covid-related deaths or outbreaks in its hundreds of elderly-care centers since cases began climbing in the city in March.

 

Its not only Shanghai, outbreaks in China are across multiple cities and regions.

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COVID-19 outbreak is hitting Shanghai "harder than authorities have publicly disclosed"

  • Wall Street Journal with the report on unrevealed cases and deaths in China
  • Many patients have died in recent days at a large Shanghai elderly-care hospital that is battling a Covid-19 outbreak, according to people familiar with the situation, a sign that a new wave of infections is hitting China’s financial capital harder than authorities have publicly disclosed.
  • Shanghai’s government hasn’t reported any Covid-related deaths or outbreaks in its hundreds of elderly-care centers since cases began climbing in the city in March.

 

Its not only Shanghai, outbreaks in China are across multiple cities and regions.

I am reading about unreported shut downs in port cities and river cities that see goods transported away from highway to the coast.  Am also hearing of major factory city shut downs as well that are not being reported due to the worry about potential shocks to the Chinese economy that is still a tad shaky after that Evergrande collapse.

 

One more major hit to supply chains and the carbon tax increasing the price of essentially everything as of tomorrow (oil companies will be happy to jack things up by 15 to 20 cents a litre and let the government take the heat) is the last thing we need to see here.

 

Think covid was a health crisis?  Well I do too.  but the potential economic storm coming is kind of frightening in its own way

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21 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

 

Think covid was a health crisis?  Well I do too.  but the potential economic storm coming is kind of frightening in its own way

Interest rates are about to rise rapidly. While they will still be reasonable by historic comparisons they may triple or even quadruple in short order. Given the amount of outstanding debt out there it's gonna get interesting.

 

A quick Friday roundup of Fed outlooks: -Morgan Stanley: 50 bps in May & June -Citi: 50 bps in May, June, July & September -Goldman: 50 bps in May & June -Traders: 2-3 50 bps hikes this year *Obvious caveat that the next FOMC is more than a month away

 

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Sorry for getting off track a bit.

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24 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Interest rates are about to rise rapidly. While they will still be reasonable by historic comparisons they may triple or even quadruple in short order. Given the amount of outstanding debt out there it's gonna get interesting.

 

A quick Friday roundup of Fed outlooks: -Morgan Stanley: 50 bps in May & June -Citi: 50 bps in May, June, July & September -Goldman: 50 bps in May & June -Traders: 2-3 50 bps hikes this year *Obvious caveat that the next FOMC is more than a month away

 

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Sorry for getting off track a bit.

Hearing that some nations run the risk of potential default as well if rates increase to high which is absolutely beyond baffling to me.

 

This is from last year.  $200 from 53% of respondents in new spending, would be enough to send them to insolvency.  That $200 would be the equivalent of rates going up to 2% on a $400k mortgage.  without mentioning credit card debt, car loans, variable lines and reverse home loans/mortgages of that nature.

 

This covid shut down of China could be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

 

Hell, people forget but the Icelandic banking crisis.  That was brought about by one single series of developments in the Philippines (or was it thailand?) going teets up as part of the holdings of Lehman Bros.  it was the first major eye opener to the issues of an interconnected global economy before the entire thing tumbled.

 

This is interesting.

 

Wanna take it to the inflation thread?

 

 

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Shanghai COVID-19 - majority of districts are now under a lockdown

As the government-controlled media in China tries to hide this, Western media outlets are uncovering what is actually happening in Shanghai.

 

Reuters now add more on the ramping up of lockdown in Shanghai:

 
 
  • China's ... government locked down most of the city's 26 million residents to stop the spread of COVID-19, even as official numbers put local cases falling for the second day in a row.
  • The city government late on Thursday extended an existing lockdown in eastern districts, just as western parts of the city were shut down as scheduled.

Earlier in the week the news was that half of Shangahi would be locked down for a few days, then the other half. This was wishful thinking as Reuters notes ... the half of the city that was shut down first has had the shutdown extended as the other half joined in.

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  • the majority of districts are now under a lockdown that covers the office towers of the Lujiazui district, China's answer to Wall Street, and factories including Volkswagen's joint venture with SAIC Motor and U.S. automaker Tesla's plant
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13 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Shanghai COVID-19 - majority of districts are now under a lockdown

As the government-controlled media in China tries to hide this, Western media outlets are uncovering what is actually happening in Shanghai.

 

Reuters now add more on the ramping up of lockdown in Shanghai:

 
 
  • China's ... government locked down most of the city's 26 million residents to stop the spread of COVID-19, even as official numbers put local cases falling for the second day in a row.
  • The city government late on Thursday extended an existing lockdown in eastern districts, just as western parts of the city were shut down as scheduled.

Earlier in the week the news was that half of Shangahi would be locked down for a few days, then the other half. This was wishful thinking as Reuters notes ... the half of the city that was shut down first has had the shutdown extended as the other half joined in.

More:

  • the majority of districts are now under a lockdown that covers the office towers of the Lujiazui district, China's answer to Wall Street, and factories including Volkswagen's joint venture with SAIC Motor and U.S. automaker Tesla's plant

How do they think they can hide this

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16 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

How do they think they can hide this

They can hide anything. Officially China has had only 151,103 Covid cases. Canada has had 3,844,824.

 

China claims 4,638 deaths. Canada claims 37,624 deaths. How do these numbers make any sense? Easy explanation is China is lying through their teeth.

 

Just lie and then lie to support the lie.

 

China claims 116 countries have had more covid cases than them. <------------------- :lol:

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43 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

They can hide anything. Officially China has had only 151,103 Covid cases. Canada has had 3,844,824.

 

China claims 4,638 deaths. Canada claims 37,624 deaths. How do these numbers make any sense? Easy explanation is China is lying through their teeth.

 

Just lie and then lie to support the lie.

 

China claims 116 countries have had more covid cases than them. <------------------- :lol:

well 1.6 billion people I mean hey.  It's totally believable ;)

 

But how do you hide port cities and shipping shutting down in todays world?  Gonna be a tough sell on that one.

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B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Friday, April 1, 2022, 90.9% (4,529,134) of eligible people five and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 87.4% (4,354,416) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 93.5% (4,332,566) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, 91.1% (4,221,814) received their second dose and 57.6% (2,669,446) have received a third dose.

 

Also, 93.8% (4,057,469) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose, 91.5% (3,956,975) received their second dose and 59.3% (2,566,457) have received a third dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 357 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 356,858 cases in the province.

 

Note: The numbers of new and total cases are provisional due to a delayed data refresh.

 

The new cases include:

  • Fraser Health: 97
  • Vancouver Coastal Health: 82
  • Interior Health: 103
  • Northern Health: 23
  • Island Health: 52
  • People who reside outside of Canada: zero

There are 274 individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 and 35 are in intensive care.

 

In the past 24 hours, four new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 3,002.

 

The new deaths include:

  • Fraser Health: one
  • Interior Health: one
  • Island Health: two

There have been no new health-care facility outbreaks, for a total of nine facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

  • Monahsee Mews and Parkview Place (Interior Health)
  • The Heights at Mt. View, Selkirk Seniors Village, Amica Douglas House, Acacia Ty Mawr, Sunridge Place Seniors and Ayre Manor (Island Health)

acute care:

  • Surrey Memorial Hospital (Fraser Health)

assisted or independent living:

  • none

From March 24-30, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 18% of cases.


From March 17-30, they accounted for 20.9% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (March 24-30) - Total 1,608

  • Not vaccinated: 261 (16.3%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 28 (1.7%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 1,319 (82%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (March 17-30) - Total 382

  • Not vaccinated: 67 (17.5%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 13 (3.4%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 302 (79.1%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (March 24-30)

  • Not vaccinated: 73.4
  • Partially vaccinated: 19.3
  • Fully vaccinated: 28.5

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (March 17-30)

  • Not vaccinated: 20.6
  • Partially vaccinated: 12.5
  • Fully vaccinated: 6.4

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 11,495,364 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022HLTH0107-000479

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For those who trumpet the myocarditis anti-vaxxer talking points, yet again Covid is more dangerous.  

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7114e1.htm?s_cid=mm7114e1_w

Cardiac Complications After SARS-CoV-2 Infection and mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination — PCORnet, United States, January 2021–January 2022

Summary

What is already known about this topic?

Studies have found an increased risk for cardiac complications after SARS-CoV-2 infection and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, but few have compared these risks.

What is added by this report?

Data from 40 health care systems participating in a large network found that the risk for cardiac complications was significantly higher after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination for both males and females in all age groups.

What are the implications for public health practice?

These findings support continued use of recommended mRNA COVID-19 vaccines among all eligible persons aged ≥5 years.

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

So are we in the pandemic stage still, or have we moved into the endemic stage?  

I think it's hard to tell at this point. It's a very weird situation I feel in that people seem to have almost forgotten the pandemic exists (they probably want to forget basically).

 

Personally, I still wear a mask. No one's asked me about it. I think most people are still at least understanding whether they have a mask on or not.

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