nuckin_futz Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: bull $&!#. I don't care if people hate China, but this is fake news at it's finest. The virus was mapped out and originated from bats, similar to sars, which the virus also came from bats. another smear campaign from the Americans to attack the Chinese. Like I said, I pay little attention to conspiracy theories. But the story is out there and is being pushed by a Senator. China total coronavirus cases to 40,171. Death toll 908. Sun 9 Feb 2020 23:50:27 GMT China's National Health Commission updates the totals as of end February 9. figures are for mainland China Progression across China: Jan 17: 41 Jan 19: 62 Jan 20: 201 Jan 21: 291 Jan 22: 440 Jan 24: 830 Jan 25: 1,287 Jan 26: 1,975 Jan 27: 2,744 Jan 28: 5,974 Jan 29: 7,711 Jan 30: 9,692 Jan 31: 11,791 Feb 1: 14,380 (number of dead across the country 304) Feb 2: 17,205 (number of deaths 361) Feb 3: 20,438 (death toll 425) Feb 4: 24,324 total cases, 490 deaths Feb 5: 28,018 (death toll up by 73, now 563) Feb 6: 31,161 (up 3,143), death toll is 636 (up 73) Feb 7: 34,564. Deaths now at 722 Feb 8: 37,198, Death toll 811. Feb 9: 40,171. Death toll 908. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: But the story is out there and is being pushed by a Senator. By a Member of the U.S government which is the same government that covered up the h1n1 outbreak in 2009 which was far worst then Coronavirus. but since it came from the Pork industry and it happened from the States they kept it silence. So no, U.S government is a group that also CANNOT be trusted nowadays. Quote Progression across China: Jan 17: 41 Jan 19: 62 Jan 20: 201 Jan 21: 291 Jan 22: 440 Jan 24: 830 Jan 25: 1,287 Jan 26: 1,975 Jan 27: 2,744 Jan 28: 5,974 Jan 29: 7,711 Jan 30: 9,692 Jan 31: 11,791 Feb 1: 14,380 (number of dead across the country 304) Feb 2: 17,205 (number of deaths 361) Feb 3: 20,438 (death toll 425) Feb 4: 24,324 total cases, 490 deaths Feb 5: 28,018 (death toll up by 73, now 563) Feb 6: 31,161 (up 3,143), death toll is 636 (up 73) Feb 7: 34,564. Deaths now at 722 Feb 8: 37,198, Death toll 811. Feb 9: 40,171. Death toll 908. tragic. Edited February 10, 2020 by MoneypuckOverlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: So no, U.S government is a group that also be trusted nowadays. I assume you left out a word there. If you meant the US government is not to be trusted, I wholeheartedly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: I assume you left out a word there. If you meant the US government is not to be trusted, I wholeheartedly agree. yea I did, edited now. but tragic none the less. (Corona virus) Edited February 10, 2020 by MoneypuckOverlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Knowing China, I would double those numbers or even triple them... They don't have a great track record of telling the truth or all the facts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, kurtis said: Knowing China, I would double those numbers or even triple them... They don't have a great track record of telling the truth or all the facts.. they actually don't even have to report a thing if they didn't want to. Just like how the United States kept the h1n1 virus a secret which ended up killing a quarter of a million people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) China reports 2,478 new coronavirus cases Tue 11 Feb 2020 00:17:57 GMT Total cases rise but at a slower pace The number of cases rose 2,478 compared to 3,062 a day earlier. Jan 17: 41 Jan 19: 62 Jan 20: 201 Jan 21: 291 Jan 22: 440 Jan 24: 830 Jan 25: 1,287 Jan 26: 1,975 Jan 27: 2,744 Jan 28: 5,974 Jan 29: 7,711 Jan 30: 9,692 Jan 31: 11,791 Feb 1: 14,380 (number of dead across the country 304) Feb 2: 17,205 (number of deaths 361) Feb 3: 20,438 (death toll 425) Feb 4: 24,324 total cases, 490 deaths Feb 5: 28,018 (death toll up by 73, now 563) Feb 6: 31,161 (up 3,143), death toll is 636 (up 73) Feb 7: 34,564. Deaths now at 722 Feb 8: 37,198, Death toll 811. Feb 9: 40,171. Death toll 908. Feb 10: 42,638. Death toll 1016. If China can halt this virus it will be one of the great public health achievements of all time. In important related news, the Chinese National Health Commission has changed their definition of "confirmed case" in their latest guidelines. Starting from Sunday, those who have tested positive but have no symptoms will no longer be regarded as confirmed. This is in contrast to WHO guidance. Since then, some provinces have been cutting totals. Edited February 11, 2020 by nuckin_futz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 It seems to have plateaued at approximately 3000 new cases per day...2.5K today. Hopefully this is the tip and the rate of new cases starts to decrease from here, which it should if the city(s) wide quarantine had the desired effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, nuckin_futz said: In important related news, the Chinese National Health Commission has changed their definition of "confirmed case" in their latest guidelines. Starting from Sunday, those who have tested positive but have no symptoms will no longer be regarded as confirmed. This is in contrast to WHO guidance. Since then, some provinces have been cutting totals. Well I was wondering how long before they started skewing numbers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 65 More Coronavirus Cases On Diamond Princess Cruise Ship Stuck In Japan Updated at 8:09 p.m. ET There are 65 new coronavirus cases aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which has been under a quarantine since last week, Japan's health ministry announced Monday. With the latest cases, a total of 135 people from the ship have been confirmed to have the respiratory virus. Those newly diagnosed include 45 Japanese and 11 Americans, as well as smaller numbers of people from Australia, Canada, England, the Philippines and Ukraine, according to Princess Cruises. Even before the latest cases were confirmed, the cruise ship already represented the largest cluster of Wuhan coronavirus cases outside mainland China. The virus, identified as 2019-nCoV, has killed more than 1,000 people in China, where more than 42,000 people have been infected since it emerged in the city of Wuhan, in Hubei province. The Diamond Princess is under a 14-day quarantine that's set to expire on Feb. 19. But health officials say the quarantine period could be extended for any passengers and crew members in close contact with people newly diagnosed with the strain of coronavirus. "They need to remain in quarantine for 14 days from last contact with a confirmed case," the World Health Organization said on Sunday, referring to anyone who had been in close contact with someone infected. As officials revealed the new test results, they did not specify how many close contacts those patients might have had on the ship. "The captain made an announcement that the Japanese authorities were concerned about the new cases," passenger Young Wo-sang of Hong Kong told the South China Morning Post. Young added, "But he stopped short of saying whether we can leave on Feb. 19. So we just don't know when we are going to leave." Many cases of coronavirus are mild, with symptoms ranging from a fever and cough to a flu-like condition. But patients can develop severe pneumonia, and about 2% of Wuhan coronavirus cases have been fatal, the WHO says. Passengers aboard the Diamond Princess have been told to stay in their rooms for all but brief periods of the day, with the crew bringing meals and other necessities to their doors. The cruise ship had roughly 3,700 passengers and crew members aboard when it arrived at the Yokohama terminal south of Tokyo early last week. Japan's health ministry has been taking people off the cruise ship using special sanitation measures, such as a tentlike tunnel and white medical suits. Patients are then transported to local hospitals with infectious-disease wards. The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo says that it has been visiting the Americans who have been hospitalized and that it has helped passengers aboard the ship get medications. Joe Young, the U.S. chargé d'affaires in Tokyo, says the embassy is also sending a daily email to all Americans aboard the ship. Matthew Smith — who has been documenting his shipboard meals and bemoaning the lack of sufficient coffee on Twitter — said a recent embassy email told passengers that "the safest option to minimize the risk of infection is to remain in your cabin on the ship." To limit the potential spread of the coronavirus, passengers are allowed to visit the deck only in shifts, for roughly 90-minute periods. They're also checking their temperatures regularly, using thermometers distributed by the crew. During their brief time in larger groups, the passengers are asked to keep their distance from other people and to wash their hands thoroughly afterward. Princess Cruises has announced compensation for the passengers — some of whom are facing four weeks on the ship because of the quarantine — saying it will refund their full fare and other expenses, from air travel to hotel and transportation costs. "In addition, guests will not be charged for any onboard incidental charges during the additional time onboard," the company said. The cruise line said it will also give guests a future travel credit for a trip equal to the fare they paid for the current voyage — which officially ended Feb. 4, when the ship was held at the Japanese port. To ease the strain of prolonged isolation, Princess Cruises announced last week that it is providing free Internet and phone service to passengers. And to stave off boredom, it also expanded the passengers' TV and movie options, along with offering games, puzzles and other distractions. Another cruise ship, Holland America's MS Westerdam, is now on its way to Thailand after spending several days with nowhere to go when Japan — its final destination — denied entry to several of its ports, including Yokohama. Officials in Taiwan, the Philippines and Guam also had denied entry. Holland America called the predicament "a very dynamic situation." The ship, which has more than 2,200 people aboard, left Hong Kong for a 14-day cruise on Feb. 1. "The ship is not in quarantine and we have no reason to believe there are any cases of coronavirus on board despite media reports," Holland America said. The company says the Westerdam will now end its ill-fated cruise by disembarking passengers in Bangkok on Feb. 13. According to VesselFinder, the ship was off Vietnam's southern coast on Monday. "All guests will be disembarking in Bangkok for their forward flights home," Holland America said. It added that the passengers will get a full refund for the trip, along with a credit for a future trip. Copyright 2020 NPR. To see more, visit NPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Being stuck on the cruise ship with this virus is terrible. Anytime if there is an outbreak of Norwalk virus, influenza, or even gastrointestinal issues on the ship. It affects so many people because of the close quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Being stuck on the cruise ship with this virus is terrible. Anytime if there is an outbreak of Norwalk virus, influenza, or even gastrointestinal issues on the ship. It affects so many people because of the close quarters. At least this virus isn't overly deadly. Still sucks to end up sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, BoKnows said: At least this virus isn't overly deadly. Still sucks to end up sick. between 2 and 3 percent is bad enough to kill 240 million people if every one gets it. So, deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 12:28 PM, kurtis said: Knowing China, I would double those numbers or even triple them... They don't have a great track record of telling the truth or all the facts.. Living here, I can see those numbers. Can those numbers be double or triple absolutely, but at the same time. How you going to report those numbers when you have so many doctors who are working anyways. They are reporting about 2500 new patients per day, how many doctors do you think is needed to diagnose so many patients? This isn't like a conveyer belt with people lining up to be counted. And it's not that China doesn't have a good track record of telling the facts, it's the media choosing which sound bites to show the public to paint the public image they so desire on a country or on a person. Has the media talked much about how much the people in the city has had to give up in order to be staying at home? Everyone's lives here are in limbo. We can't see your friends, we can't be with family. Yet to each person here, they are content to stay this way if it means not to further spread the virus. Family, friends and relatives here can't even give a proper funeral to any loved one who passed on because they must be cremated in case the person can still contaminate post mortem. I understand that people stand on different fences of the political spectrum but when we are talking about human casualty and the sacrifices, the pain and heartbreak that is happening at this moment. Shouldn't this be above politics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, smokes said: Living here, I can see those numbers. Can those numbers be double or triple absolutely, but at the same time. How you going to report those numbers when you have so many doctors who are working anyways. They are reporting about 2500 new patients per day, how many doctors do you think is needed to diagnose so many patients? This isn't like a conveyer belt with people lining up to be counted. And it's not that China doesn't have a good track record of telling the facts, it's the media choosing which sound bites to show the public to paint the public image they so desire on a country or on a person. Has the media talked much about how much the people in the city has had to give up in order to be staying at home? Everyone's lives here are in limbo. We can't see your friends, we can't be with family. Yet to each person here, they are content to stay this way if it means not to further spread the virus. Family, friends and relatives here can't even give a proper funeral to any loved one who passed on because they must be cremated in case the person can still contaminate post mortem. I understand that people stand on different fences of the political spectrum but when we are talking about human casualty and the sacrifices, the pain and heartbreak that is happening at this moment. Shouldn't this be above politics? How are you, smokes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 hours ago, BoKnows said: At least this virus isn't overly deadly. Still sucks to end up sick. The 1000+ people who died would say differently if they could. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: How are you, smokes? Most of my friends from other countries have returned home and in quarantine back in their own countries so that is a relief. But things are getting tighter. Most of the housing communities are closed off from with people delivering food and essentials. Every day, I see a whole lot of trucks that are disinfecting every part of the city. So everyone is doing everything that is possible to control the spreading. So on that front everything is good the hard part is being stuck at the house and not being able to go out but that's unavoidable. My wife is more scared at the moment than I am because most of the people who have passed on have been the elderly between 60-90 years old as thier bodies are weakest to fight against it and my wife's parents are around that age so she has been worried everyday and calling them four or five times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, smokes said: Most of my friends from other countries have returned home and in quarantine back in their own countries so that is a relief. But things are getting tighter. Most of the housing communities are closed off from with people delivering food and essentials. Every day, I see a whole lot of trucks that are disinfecting every part of the city. So everyone is doing everything that is possible to control the spreading. So on that front everything is good the hard part is being stuck at the house and not being able to go out but that's unavoidable. My wife is more scared at the moment than I am because most of the people who have passed on have been the elderly between 60-90 years old as thier bodies are weakest to fight against it and my wife's parents are around that age so she has been worried everyday and calling them four or five times a day. Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear of your struggles and of your wife being worried for her parents. I hope China's measures help to stop the spread, and that you can get back to some normalcy. Have you been able to contact your daughter recently? Take care. Edited February 11, 2020 by PhillipBlunt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear of your struggles and of your wife being worried for her parents. I hope China's measures help to stop the spread, and that you can get back to some normalcy. Have you been able to contact your daughter recently? Take care. Yeah, she is with my wife's parents so we talk everyday. Daughter is doing well. The most dangerous age group for this virus are adults from what we are hearing on the streets. Children can get the virus but to them the symptoms are weak so we have been feeling better about that. Just want her home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, smokes said: Yeah, she is with my wife's parents so we talk everyday. Daughter is doing well. The most dangerous age group for this virus are adults from what we are hearing on the streets. Children can get the virus but to them the symptoms are weak so we have been feeling better about that. Just want her home. Hoping that the containment strategy works well, and that you and you're family are reunited. Take care, smokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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