Coronavirus outbreak

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, 4thLineGrinder said:

 

Ahem

 

Conducted by the CHINESE AUTHORITIES

 

So, you're taking XI at his word now?

 

Then you must believe that China, in its entirety only had 4 whole new cases over a 3 day span last week.  Right?

[RUPERTKBD]

7 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

I wonder many things, I try not to wonder too much about Trump these days and focus on my own country but it is difficult .. I now wonder if Melania had contracted the virus whether Trump would have self-isolated though

I am sure many here would be cheering if he did 

mmmmm......tossup.

 

As much as many would like to see Trump self-isolating, in bed with a fever probably "Trumps" that....

[Warhippy]

13 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Not sure what Ellen has to do with my post, but okay....

left wing liberal of course  

[Warhippy]

3 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Shes prepping for her 2024 presidency run 

Ya, she's not going to be able to run very far with the weight of all those sound bites holding her back.

 

Yikes

[RUPERTKBD]

5 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Shes prepping for her 2024 presidency run 

Maybe.....but that assumes that Trump hasn't declared himself "Dictator for Life" by that time.....

[Chicken.]

Just now, RUPERTKBD said:

Maybe.....but that assumes that Trump hasn't declared himself "Dictator for Life" by that time.....

Safe assumption unless you have a tinfoil hat on 

[RUPERTKBD]

Just now, Chicken. said:

Safe assumption unless you have a tinfoil hat on 

'Struth. Trump would love to do it, but he's far too stupid to pull something like that off.

 

I'm sure he's been getting plenty of tips from Vlad, Erdogan, Xi and Lil Kim, but as the saying goes, "You can lead a Dotard to water......"

[Chicken.]

2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

'Struth. Trump would love to do it, but he's far too stupid to pull something like that off.

 

I'm sure he's been getting plenty of tips from Vlad, Erdogan, Xi and Lil Kim, but as the saying goes, "You can lead a Dotard to water......"

Stupid enough to accidentally win the presidency as a first time politician.. I should never say never, maybe he will get some ‘assistance’ again...

[RUPERTKBD]

1 minute ago, Chicken. said:

Stupid enough to accidentally win the presidency as a first time politician.. I should never say never, maybe he will get some ‘assistance’ again...

You think it was his intelligence that won him the presidency? Really?

 

I think he stumbled on a platform of racism, coupled with the angst of the American lower-middle class, that was spoon fed to him by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

 

I would have thought that the whole "4D chess" narrative died long ago after so may examples to the contrary, but I guess there are still a few of his supporters who won't let it go....

[4thLineGrinder]

21 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Breitbart.  HAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah *gasp* HAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaha

 

I absolutely dare you to read through these links before posting them ever again

 

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/breitbart/

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

 

 

 

[RUPERTKBD]

"Far left Facebook"....

[Chicken.]

2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

You think it was his intelligence that won him the presidency? Really?

 

I think he stumbled on a platform of racism, coupled with the angst of the American lower-middle class, that was spoon fed to him by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

 

I would have thought that the whole "4D chess" narrative died long ago after so may examples to the contrary, but I guess there are still a few of his supporters who won't let it go....

This has nothing to do with the corona but this has been discussed ad nauseam and we will see later this year if any worthy chess play existed to award him a 2nd term.. or his lousy opponent will be used to discredit the win again.. along with continually being underestimated  always fun to watch as a bystander

 

I need to get outside..

[Kushman]

 

[86Viking]

What time is Dr. Bonnie's update today?

[Gurn]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/government-opposition-parties-strike-deal-to-pass-massive-wage-subsidy-bill/ar-BB12tShQ?ocid=spartandhp

 

"

The Trudeau government has struck a deal with opposition parties to swiftly approve a massive $73-billion wage subsidy program aimed at helping businesses and workers survive the economic ravages of the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

Passage of legislation needed to implement the program was assured Saturday after Conservatives dropped their attempt to tie the bill to the longer-term question of how Parliament should function in the midst of a national health crisis.

At a morning news conference just hours before the House of Commons was to meet for a rare emergency sitting on the Easter long weekend, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said his party had agreed to support passage of the bill and to continue discussions on the future of Parliament later.

Under the bill, which is expected to pass the Commons and the Senate and receive royal assent later Saturday, the federal government will pay companies 75 per cent of the first $58,700 normally earned by employees, up to $847 per week for up to 12 weeks. The subsidy is retroactive to March 15 and will be available to companies that lost 15 per cent of their revenue in March or 30 per cent in April or May."

"

Finance Minister Bill Morneau said the money will begin to flow within two to five weeks, with the government working to get it started in the shortest possible time.

Scheer said that Conservatives had won some improvements to the bill over the past week of negotiations and that their support for the wage subsidy was never dependent on settling the matter of how or when Parliament should sit going forward.

That said, Scheer argued that the work of opposition parties to improve the legislation demonstrates how important it is to have the Commons sitting regularly so that the government can be held to account.

"This shows that during times of crisis, Parliament needs to play its role," he said.

Scheer reiterated his party's contention that the Commons should sit — with reduced numbers — four days a week.

"

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has argued that in-person sittings present a health risk for Commons clerks, administrators, security and cleaners who'd have to come to work at a time when all Canadians are being urged to stay home to curb the spread of the deadly virus. He's also argued that small sittings — like today's sitting of just 32 MPs who are primarily within driving distance of the capital — would shut out MPs from all corners of the country.

Trudeau's Liberals have been promoting the idea of virtual sittings of Parliament. Commons Speaker Anthony Rota has instructed Commons administration to consult with experts about the logistics and technology required for virtual sittings, with the goal of having them up and running within four weeks.

But Scheer said: "We can't wait that long."

He suggested that in-person sittings should be held until virtual sittings can be implemented.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said he's open to discussing either virtual sittings or "limited" in-person sittings. But Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet said he would never agree to in-person sittings.

For the past couple of weeks, the Commons finance and health committees have been meeting weekly via teleconference. As part of the deal to speedily pass the wage subsidy bill, government House leader Pablo Rodriguez said more committees — industry, government operations, human resources and procedure and House affairs — will also begin virtual meetings.

The latter committee will be specifically tasked with exploring the best ways for the Commons to function in the weeks ahead.

"We have to be creative," Rodriguez said.

"On one hand, we can't tell Canadians, 'Stay home because that's the way to fight this (pandemic)' and then come here every day and meet."

Both Singh and Blanchet said their parties will support the speedy passage of the wage subsidy bill and claimed credit for making some improvements to it.

Singh, who has been pushing for a universal benefit for all Canadians, said the motion seeking unanimous consent for the wage subsidy will also include a guarantee that the government will close some of the gaps that have left some Canadians without any help from either the wage subsidy or the previously passed Canada Emergency Response Benefit.

And he said he still wants Trudeau to go further and drop all the eligibility criteria for the CERB. Singh said he's heard from many Canadians who don't qualify for the emergency benefit, which opened to applicants this week, including people who are still earning a small income, students and those who were unemployed before the pandemic began.

Blanchet said his party successfully negotiated some additions to the bill that will see businesses get help with some of their fixed costs.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will address Canadians from the Commons later Saturday, marking his first public appearance away from his home in 26 days.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published April 11, 2020."

[Gurn]

$73 billion for 37 million Canadians.

What does that work out to per person, and how is it going to be paid for?

Are all the governments of the world going to agree to just knock off a few zeros for the worldwide debt?

[Jester13]

2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

well, it wasn't an insult but OK. From our short exchange I did wonder, if you didn't realize that we have global leaders in many companies or point out gender as something Canada isn't leading on. 

 

 

Well, yes, you sure did imply that I'm uneducated, due to our school system, in having an opinion on our country. Just so you know, my undergraduate degree is in, guess what, political science, focusing on domestic politics. I'm well aware of political issues in Canada and our historical and current place in the world,as I had lots of focus on gender, race, Indigenous, the environment, and policy in Canadian politics. 

 

We do not have a history of taking the lead on big issues, such as gender. If you think Canada was the one to take the lead on gender rights before other countries in the world, do some more research, because we followed others. Granted, Canada does a lot in that area and has been getting better, and I'm not arguing against that, but we did not take the lead; just like we didn't take the lead on shutting down industry and our economy during this pandemic. We followed. This isn't something to get so upset over, it's just something to expect of a smaller country, and it's something to expect from our parliamentary system and social fabric. But this is a larger discussion I'm not quite interested in having and derailing his thread. If you'd like to create a separate thread and discuss it further then I'm happy to add my educated opinions in the matter.

[RUPERTKBD]

For those still desperately trying to make the case that Trump was ahead of the curve by instituting a travel ban from China, (which wasn't a total ban, BTW) here's an example of how his indecision and obfuscation, has had a tangible human cost:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-costly-toll-of-florida-not-shutting-down-spring-break-during-coronavirus/ar-BB12upnW?li=AAggFp4
 

Quote

 

MIAMI — You could find Beatriz Diaz at this spring’s Winter Party Festival in Miami Beach, giving out hand sanitizer.

It was early March. She knew the coronavirus was beginning to make its way around the world, but she figured if she kept her hands clean and avoided sweaty people, she would be safe.

 

“I was thinking, ‘OK, well, hold on, the government did not cancel it, so it should be fine,’” she said.

Within days, reports started popping up on Facebook about a D.J. and several partygoers who were suddenly terribly ill. By the end of the month, two people who attended the festival had died.

As of last week, 38 people had reported that they were symptomatic or had tested positive for the coronavirus in the weeks following the event, according to the organizer, the National L.G.B.T.Q. Task Force. Ms. Diaz was among them.

Weeks before Florida ordered people to stay at home, the coronavirus was well into its insidious spread in the state, infecting residents and visitors who days earlier had danced at beach parties and reveled in theme parks. Only now, as people have gotten sick and recovered from — or succumbed to — Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, has the costly toll of keeping Florida open during the spring break season started to become apparent.

Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, has blamed travelers from New York, Europe and other places for seeding the virus in the state. But the reverse was also true: People got sick in Florida and took the infection back home.

The exact number of people who returned from leisure trips to Florida with the coronavirus may never be known. Cases as far away as California and Massachusetts have been linked to the Winter Party Festival, a beachside dance party and fund-raiser for the L.G.B.T.Q. community held March 4-10. Another California man died after going to Orlando for a conference and then to a packed Disney World. Two people went to Disney and later got relatives sick in Florida and Georgia.

Slow action by Florida’s governor left local leaders scrambling to make their own closure decisions during one of the busiest and most profitable times of the year for a state with an $86 billion tourism economy. The result was that rules were often in conflict, with one city canceling a major event while a neighboring city allowed another event to continue.

The governor, who did not order people to stay home until April 1, has said the state supported local governments that ordered event cancellations and beach closures, but that it was not his role to step in first.

“Let’s have tailored approaches, surgical approaches, that are going to work best for those regions,” Mr. DeSantis said at a news conference on March 24. “These blunt measures — you wouldn’t want to do them on a community where the virus hasn’t spread.”

With little testing available, local officials made decisions blindly. Data that suggested looming trouble, such as rising fever readings from internet-connected thermometers, were ignored, a spokeswoman for Kinsa Health, the company that produces the thermometers, has said.

Only later did the effects become apparent.

Florida has confirmed more than 17,500 coronavirus cases and nearly 400 deaths, with the epidemic still expanding in the state.

A video by the data analytics and visualization company Tectonix showed how cellphones that were on one Fort Lauderdale beach at the beginning of March spread across the country — up the Eastern Seaboard and further West — over the next two weeks.

“At the time, there was still this debate: Should we close public beaches? Should we shut down these big public events?” said Mike DiMarco, the company’s chief marketing officer. “When you actually see it visually on a map like that, it brings a ton of awareness to what that really looks like.”

 

To be sure, Ron Desantis is the one deserving of most of the blame here, but the words and actions of the Trump administration were the foundation his lack of action was built on.

 

More in the link.

[Violator]

14 minutes ago, gurn said:

$73 billion for 37 million Canadians.

What does that work out to per person, and how is it going to be paid for?

Are all the governments of the world going to agree to just knock off a few zeros for the worldwide debt?

Its like a credit card you have to pay it eventually.So any tax cuts or new programs will be cancelled in order to pay for this.

[Me_]

Ok here’s a game.

 

In this next clip, replace the “Covid-19 memo from Peter Navarro” with one of: Russia, Russian meddling, Muller, the Muller Report, Michael Cohen payout time a pornstar, Stormy Daniels, 17 sexual harassments, the Comey memo, the Comey firing, the Roger Stone arrest, secret meeting with Putin, Ukraine, the Perfect Call, Guilani’s meddling in the Ukraine and you will find that Trump’s narrative is the same regardless of the subject.

 

Playing innocent, ignorant and sidestepping the facts is basically his schtick and an admission that he knows very well what’s going on.