Popular Post HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 Anybody else hear the bit with JR on 650? A few points I picked up on. - He said his focus is on speed and skill, to get lots of shots on net, etc. No mention of size. - The offence comes from a select group of guys on this team, he wants to see that offence spread out among the forwards. - He mentioned he could work with this defence. - Also mentioned ideally they would keep enough of the good players on this team to remain competitive and bring in some young guys to transition in. So with that info, I'd say it's time to say goodbye to Boeser as he definitely doesn't have speed. Garland will stay. Doesn't sound like defence is his big priority, but rather balancing out our scoring is more important. What does that mean for Miller? Turn him into a couple players that can pot 15-20 goals and 50-60pts? Boeser could bring in the picks and prospect(s)? Interesting comments anyways... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Motte and Highmore will be staying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Do we have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: Do we have a link? I was listening to 650 on my way back to the office and Don and Dhali played a clip of it. I'm sure it's online somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 This guy on HFBoards did a better job than me summarizing the info lol https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/rutherford-lays-out-the-blueprint-of-what-the-canucks-are-looking-for-via-trade.2871474/ -- Rutherford just did a 30 minute interview on Sportsnet 650 Vancouver. Firstly, he made it abundantly clear... The Canucks will not be trading any major pieces ala Miller/Boeser as long as the Canucks are in the mix for the playoffs. It really sounds like the Canucks are leaning towards not doing their major roster surgery until the offseason. This is a smart move to me as I believe if they wait until summer, the auction for Miller would grow 2/3x more with interested teams. Canucks can also allow a potentail trading team to negotiate a new contract with Miller which will boost his value even more. Of course all this can change if and once: 1. The Canucks fall out of the race, if they havent yet already 2. They get an offer they cant refuse As for what the Canucks are looking for at the trade deadline or in the off-season Rutherford was very clear on what he wants the identity of the Canucks to be. Speed and Skill. He was asked why he prefers that over Size and Brute, he mentioned in a perfect world he would have it all but he believes that the game has trended towards speed and skill. He also mentioned he doesnt just want speed skaters on the team that cant actually think and play hockey which is why the skill part is important with the speed. Rutherford also mentioned something interesting: - He believes the forward group is an "Average Skating" group and relies on a couple of players to create offence. He mentioned this is not what he wants. He wants to get faster and more skilled and have a more balanced attack and use that speed t create puck pressure.It really sounds like he is going to shake the forward group up. - More surprisingly, he mentioned that he believes the D-core he has is something " he can work with" He mentioned building around Hughes and OEL. - It sounded like Rutherford believes the Canucks arent competing until 2024 and he will be making trades now that reflects that time frame. To Summarize - Miller/Boeser any big fish not getting moved until Canucks are out of playoff race -Rutherford does not like the skating abilities with the Canucks forward Group (uh oh Boeser) - In a trade Canucks want young players with Speed and Skill and or draft picks - In a big trade, Canucks might be prioritizing a young speed/skill Forward as the main return as Rutherford really sounded dejected by the Forward group where at least he said the Dcore is something he can work with Kinda funny when blatantly asked what Rutherford thought of the team after 2 months into the job. He mentioned something along of the lines of : " We are not good but our Franchise Goalie hides alot of our shortcomings" 4 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) So anyways, I think we're barking up the wrong tree here... after those comments, I think we see young forwards coming back more than young defencemen. Edited February 17, 2022 by HKSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: he made it abundantly clear... The Canucks will not be trading any major pieces ala Miller/Boeser as long as the Canucks are in the mix for the playoffs. First, this is the fatal mistake that Benning was guilty of (admittedly he had his orders from Aquillini) which kept us in perpetual mediocrity. Second, are we actually in contention - we've played more games than most any other team on the playoff bubble right now and yeah, we're winning a few but how many things have to happen for this club to make it? Third, even if this club makes the playoffs, what use is a first or second round exit - Benning used to say it was critical to get the young guys some experience, they have that now so....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Just now, Fanuck said: First, this is the fatal mistake that Benning was guilty of (admittedly he had his orders from Aquillini) which kept us in perpetual mediocrity. Second, are we actually in contention - we've played more games than most any other team on the playoff bubble right now and yeah, we're winning a few but how many things have to happen for this club to make it? Third, even if this club makes the playoffs, what use is a first or second round exit - Benning used to say it was critical to get the young guys some experience, they have that now so....... To be fair, that's not EXACTLY what JR said... he said more along the lines of what I iterated in my OP. The HFBoards guy interpreted it a bit differently. I think it's more along the lines of keeping enough of the good players on this team to remain competitive and bring in some young guys to transition in. Doesn't mean Boeser and Miller won't be traded. Wish I could find a link to the whole interview. It'd be a lot more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: To be fair, that's not EXACTLY what JR said... he said more along the lines of what I iterated in my OP. The HFBoards guy interpreted it a bit differently. I think it's more along the lines of keeping enough of the good players on this team to remain competitive and bring in some young guys to transition in. Doesn't mean Boeser and Miller won't be traded. Wish I could find a link to the whole interview. It'd be a lot more clear. Even if he does intend on trading Miller... you don't annonuce the plan to the public... it creates a media circus. If teams know we are fine to keep Miller, they will need to up the ante if they want to pry him away... I take anything said with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I'm okay with holding onto our best players/trade chips until it's clear we're out of the playoffs. If we don't trade Miller, I think there's a good chance we sneak in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanuck Posted February 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, HKSR said: Kinda funny when blatantly asked what Rutherford thought of the team after 2 months into the job. He mentioned something along of the lines of : " We are not good but our Franchise Goalie hides alot of our shortcomings" This is why the standings, and our 'playoff bubble status' are very misleading - statistically speaking we shouldn't really be anywhere near the playoffs given the sheer magnitude of quality scoring chances we give up on a nightly basis - our goaltenders have been playing out of their minds, this is not sustainable long-term. Further to this, it makes me surprised that he's keying in on the forward group and not specifically identifying the d-core - I know some will say the best defence is a good offence but myself, I have serious doubts that 'working with this defence' (if that quote is accurate) equals a legitimate playoff competitive level defensive group. I know some will say to take everything with a grain of salt, he's not going to hand his d-core out to dry, he's not going to give up his 'real' TDL intentions, he's not going to single any one player out, he's not going to put pressure on guys by announcing big changes in the coming weeks, yadayadayada.... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, HKSR said: So anyways, I think we're barking up the wrong tree here... after those comments, I think we see young forwards coming back more than young defencemen. Perhaps he targets young D who need time/seasoning? Thus he's okay with the current D, yet as their contracts elapse, he blends in the newly acquired(over 2-3 yrs) ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 What I dont get about the previous regime is you have 2 smallish sized forwards in the lineup - maybe 3 - Highmore, Garland and Hoglander. You won't win championships without a balacne of skill, speed and snarl/size! I get Boeser going, and if there's a haul for Miller/Horvat, do that too...but is JR and Co following the same Benning drum now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 So, where do people think Brock will go? NJ? WAS? BOS? MIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 All I can think of is that JR is using some kind of diversionary tactics by pointing to the forward group because this defense is NOT playoff winning caliber, it just isn't and 'working with them' isn't gonna change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Ah so i guess he's shipping out Pearson (again) and probably Dickinson. Looks like Garland isn't going anywhere. Maybe Boeser goes? Tinkering on Blue line, no overhaul, going to build around OEL. Hopefully ships out Pool guy and gets a decent stay at home shutdown guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 "Working with" this defence group probably means working with Hughes, OEL, and Myers. Everybody else is up for debate. Sounds like his focus is on the forwards though. The slower guys are gonna be moved... Boeser, Pearson, etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, BureBurrito said: What I dont get about the previous regime is you have 2 smallish sized forwards in the lineup - maybe 3 - Highmore, Garland and Hoglander. You won't win championships without a balacne of skill, speed and snarl/size! I get Boeser going, and if there's a haul for Miller/Horvat, do that too...but is JR and Co following the same Benning drum now? Horvat has both speed and skill. Plus he's our captain, he's great on faceoffs, plays in all situations and is 210 pounds and can drop them on occasion. He would be one of the last players to be traded along with Demko, Hughes and Petey... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, HKSR said: "Working with" this defence group probably means working with Hughes, OEL, and Myers. Everybody else is up for debate. Sounds like his focus is on the forwards though. The slower guys are gonna be moved... Boeser, Pearson, etc. He can also work with Hamonic, Schenn and Poolman. The problem is not actually the defence, it's the lack of speed that doesn't allow us to play puck possession and pressure the other defencemen. Look at Florida's defence. They don't have Norris trophy candidates on there other than Ekblad. Heck they have 2 of our leftovers playing in their top 6. But their forward group has tons of speed and skill which is how they dominate. Same with Carolina. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Boeser for Luke Hughes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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