CBH1926 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Saw this story earlier.https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/former-b-c-child-star-had-plans-to-kill-justin-trudeau-after-killing-his-mother-documents/ar-AAYtfHv?cvid=ef59a8a069494563802541c1036c8cf7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 WARNING: Some readers may find details in this story disturbing. Discretion is advised. A former B.C. child star had plans to drive to Ottawa and kill Prime Minister Justin Trudeau after he killed his mother in April 2020. Details were revealed in court Monday during the first day of the sentencing hearing for 24-year-old former actor Ryan Grantham. In March, Grantham pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the killing of his mother. Barbara Waite was found dead in her Squamish home on April 1, 2020. Police had attended the home on Government Road to perform a welfare check. In court Monday, the Crown read out the agreed statement of facts that said Grantham shot his mother in the back of her head while she was playing the piano. next day he then loaded his car with guns, ammunition, Molotov cocktails, camping supplies and a map to Rideau Cottage in Ottawa, where Trudeau lives. The documents said Grantham talked about killing Trudeau to police when he was arrested and he wrote about it in his journal. In the days leading up to his mother’s death, Grantham recorded himself on camera appearing to walk through the killing and in another one he described what happened. The video was shown in court. to murdering mother Riverdale actor pleads guilty to murdering mother – Mar 10, 2022 The court heard Grantham started driving east but only made it to Hope. He then turned around and considered killing people randomly on the Lions Gate Bridge or at Simon Fraser University. Grantham then drove into Vancouver but turned himself in to police. READ MORE: 21-year-old man charged with murder in mother’s death in Squamish, B.C. Grantham most recently appeared in the B.C.-shot CW television show Riverdale, and has a long list of credits including The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnasus, Supernatural and iZombie. Second-degree murder carries an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for at least 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 how is it second degree, when he make a preparatory video? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, lmm said: how is it second degree, when he make a preparatory video? Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, kurtis said: Canada. you really want to compare Brasil's crime rate to ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, lmm said: how is it second degree, when he make a preparatory video? Good question. I dont know enough but my guess would be they might have better chance for the charges to stick if it's 2nd degree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Good question. I dont know enough but my guess would be they might have better chance for the charges to stick if it's 2nd degree? maybe because he turned himself in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIMO88 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, JM_ said: you really want to compare Brasil's crime rate to ours? ??? Hes comparing how laxxed the laws are. Not the crime rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, PRIMO88 said: ??? Hes comparing how laxxed the laws are. Not the crime rate. uh huh. I don't think we need any lessons from Brasil on how to handle crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, lmm said: maybe because he turned himself in? Well, I was just thinking about not being able to be charged for the same crime twice. Think it is called double jeopardy. So if there are any holes in making 1st degree charges stick they might go after the lesser 2nd degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, bishopshodan said: Well, I was just thinking about not being able to be charged for the same crime twice. Think it is called double jeopardy. So if there are any holes in making 1st degree charges stick they might go after the lesser 2nd degree. The little prick shot his mother in the head while she was playing the piano. He should friggin’ fry. Hang his ass. The f not, then HE DIES IN PRISON. Our consequences for these horrible crimes are way too lenient. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: The little prick shot his mother in the head while she was playing the piano. He should friggin’ fry. Hang his ass. The f not, then HE DIES IN PRISON. Our consequences for these horrible crimes are way too lenient. Not arguing any of that. Though I am against the death penalty. Would rather have him rot and feel the pain of a worthless existence in jail for the rest of his life. Being killed and put out of his misery is too nice for him. I am suggesting why they might not be throwing the book at him. If they 'go for it' and fail he could walk. Perhaps they are making sure that he get life in prison plus extra charges.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-s-the-difference-between-1st-degree-murder-2nd-degree-murder-and-manslaughter-1.5068520 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, JM_ said: you really want to compare Brasil's crime rate to ours? That is pretty left fieldish How did Brasil get in this conversation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Not arguing any of that. Though I am against the death penalty. Would rather have him rot and feel the pain of a worthless existence in jail for the rest of his life. Being killed and put out of his misery is too nice for him. I am suggesting why they might not be throwing the book at him. If they 'go for it' and fail he could walk. Perhaps they are making sure that he get life in prison plus extra charges.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-s-the-difference-between-1st-degree-murder-2nd-degree-murder-and-manslaughter-1.5068520 well that explains it quite well maybe I have been watching too much TV from that definition it sound like 2nd degree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Kills his own mother so she doesn’t see the rampage he was set on committing. Makes videos of what he plans to do. Then turns himself in. What a waste of life. This is the type of guy that makes me not want kids at all. How could you even think about killing your own loving mother? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 5 hours ago, lmm said: how is it second degree, when he make a preparatory video? When I was in jury duty, the defendant murdered his Mom as well. The crown went with 2nd degree murder. It's easier to prove and it's pretty much a slam dunk. I thought the Crown had a good case for 1st degree as well. The defence lawyer was an idiot. They didn't even deny his client murdered his Mom. They should have just had a trial by judge. It would have saved a lot of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: The little prick shot his mother in the head while she was playing the piano. He should friggin’ fry. Hang his ass. The f not, then HE DIES IN PRISON. Our consequences for these horrible crimes are way too lenient. Basically if you go into jury selection. And you state that, you will be rejected. I guess that's one way of getting out of it. "Hanging's too good for him, burnin's too good for him! He should be chopped up into little bitty pieces and buried alive!!!!!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Basically if you go into jury selection. And you state that, you will be rejected. I guess that's one way of getting out of it. "Hanging's too good for him, burnin's too good for him! He should be chopped up into little bitty pieces and buried alive!!!!!" Hanged, drawn, and quartered when he wakes up from the hanging to see his guts all over just before the horses rip him apart. Or, of course, we put him into prison with really nasty people with a sign that says, “I murdered my mother”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Hanged, drawn, and quartered when he wakes up from the hanging to see his guts all over just before the horses rip him apart. Or, of course, we put him into prison with really nasty people with a sign that says, “I murdered my mother”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Odd. said: Kills his own mother so she doesn’t see the rampage he was set on committing. Makes videos of what he plans to do. Then turns himself in. What a waste of life. This is the type of guy that makes me not want kids at all. How could you even think about killing your own loving mother? There are all sorts of good reasons not to have kids, like the planet is over-crowded or you don't want to pass on some congenital defect. There are also lots of good reasons to have kids One weirdo should not sway your choice one way or another I have 2 kids and they are both awesome and I have 1 grandchild I can tell you that being a parent is just paying your dues for the awesomeness of becoming a grand parent what makes you so sure this kid had a "Loving Mother"? Edited June 19, 2022 by lmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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