Popular Post HKSR Posted July 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) To NYR: Pierre Luc-Dubois To WPG: Conor Garland Kaapo Kaako 2023 2nd Round Pick (VAN) To VAN: Braden Schneider NYR get their replacement for Copp and Strome. A fantastic young centreman to complement Lafreniere. They reluctantly give up Schneider and Kaako for him. WPG get a great cost and club controlled winger in Garland. Seems they're having trouble retaining talent, so acquiring Garland makes a lot of sense. Kaako is a great piece with a lot of potential. Copp returns home to WPG via UFA to fill the vacancy by PLD. VAN gets their top pairing RHD for Hughes, and without having to give up Miller too! Provides much more flexibility for where Miller lands. I'll add a Miller trade here in a bit... EDIT: And here is my Miller trade after hearing about how Malkin is likely to walk from Pittsburgh. To PIT: JT Miller Tucker Poolman To VAN: John Marino Kasperi Kapanen Samuel Poulin Filip Hallander PIT gets their replacement piece for Malkin in a prime JT Miller. They also get a serviceable RHD to replace some of the minutes lost from moving Marino. Canucks get a very solid and consistent defensive defenceman in Marino locked up to a good contract. They also acquire a feisty and speedy 3rd line winger in Kapanen. The 2 prospects acquired bring depth to the prospect pool. Although not top tier prospects, they will likely be good to excellent NHLers one day. Notice how I like both of them in the fact they are both known to attack the net with the puck... something the Canucks are lacking for the most part (other than Podz). Samuel Poulin: "Poulin is a very all-round player. He plays a good two-way game and has very few weaknesses to his game. Furthermore, he competes hard, has leadership qualities and is a decent point producer." "A creative offensive player with high-end offensive upside. He can put the puck in the back of the net and distribute it to his teammates," "He plays a smart game, is strong on the puck along the wall and doesn’t mind going to the net with it" "He is very good at handling the puck with speed and is a complete power forward," Filip Hallander: "Two-way forward and a capable skater. Works hard and forechecks and backchecks impressively. Shoots and passes the puck equally well. Smart in all three zones and a good team player." "his competitiveness and the way he attacks the net make him a dangerous player in the offensive zone," Edited July 5, 2022 by HKSR 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 This is excellent for all teams involved. Nicely done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Winnipeg comes away looking like bandits here, Dubois already said he wants to test free agency in a season's time; if this move happens due to them not being able to retain him, I doubt he gets so much (certainly won't get that much just for his RFA rights, maybe him for Kakko's rights plus either Garland [who's young, top-6 and signed with term] or the pick). Even if they're flipping our assets to Winnipeg, a PLD who's threatening to leave can't command that much IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I want to dislike this, but I can't find a good reason to. WPG gets a couple of good offensive players and a pick VAN gets a good RD partner for Hughes for the next 10+ years NYR get Dubois for next year's playoff run. Zibanejad-Dubois down the middle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I want to dislike this, but I can't find a good reason to. WPG gets a couple of good offensive players and a pick VAN gets a good RD partner for Hughes for the next 10+ years NYR get Dubois for next year's playoff run. Zibanejad-Dubois down the middle I was just thinking about the same. The Jets struggle to keep their guys (without overpaying) so getting Garland on his contract would mean more to them in value than many other teams. PLD has two years for the Rangers. And we get Schneider. Win/win/win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameci Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Did you realize that all of the rhd that we have been hoping for in a Miller/Garland trade were second round picks? No way in hell would I include a second round pick in ANY trade. That’s why our prospect pool sucks and we are left wishing that we had drafted guys like Iorio, Faber, Peeke, Grans, the Russian guy from New Jersey or Morrow. Even Erik Cernak was a second round pick. I like your creative trade proposal, but including a second round pick is a non starter for me. I am hoping that we trade down at the draft and try to recoup the second round pick that we are missing. There a lots of promising defensemen slated to go late in the first round or in the second. It’s time to stop wishing and time to start drafting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameci Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Add Brandon Carlo to my list of second round picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted July 4, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, nameci said: Did you realize that all of the rhd that we have been hoping for in a Miller/Garland trade were second round picks? No way in hell would I include a second round pick in ANY trade. That’s why our prospect pool sucks and we are left wishing that we had drafted guys like Iorio, Faber, Peeke, Grans, the Russian guy from New Jersey or Morrow. Even Erik Cernak was a second round pick. I like your creative trade proposal, but including a second round pick is a non starter for me. I am hoping that we trade down at the draft and try to recoup the second round pick that we are missing. There a lots of promising defensemen slated to go late in the first round or in the second. It’s time to stop wishing and time to start drafting. And how many 2nd round pick defencemen make little to no impact on the team that drafted them? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, HKSR said: And how many 2nd round pick defencemen make little to no impact on the team that drafted them? You mean like Jet Woo? I think your proposal is one that is fair for all three teams. It’s exactly what we should try and do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 We need picks not trade them so I don't think Schneider is worth a 2nd and Garland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, nameci said: Did you realize that all of the rhd that we have been hoping for in a Miller/Garland trade were second round picks? No way in hell would I include a second round pick in ANY trade. That’s why our prospect pool sucks and we are left wishing that we had drafted guys like Iorio, Faber, Peeke, Grans, the Russian guy from New Jersey or Morrow. Even Erik Cernak was a second round pick. I like your creative trade proposal, but including a second round pick is a non starter for me. I am hoping that we trade down at the draft and try to recoup the second round pick that we are missing. There a lots of promising defensemen slated to go late in the first round or in the second. It’s time to stop wishing and time to start drafting. I agree about losing a 2nd round pick. My problem with pics and prospects (RDs) is that they will take years to play on the 1st pairing (if ever). Even Schneider is a long ways from being Hughes' partner. I would love it if the Canucks could get this done...Garland for Matt Roy straight up. That way, Quinn gets a partner right away, which affords the management time to acquire and develop a young RD (or 2) that could replace Roy in a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I wouldn't call this a blockbuster by any means - that said, I don't dislike it. I think we bump ours down to a 3rd and I'm with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Hey, I like it. I wish I had thought of it myself really... Looking forward to your Miller proposal as well... Edited July 4, 2022 by Elias Pettersson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smithers joe Posted July 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, BureBurrito said: We need picks not trade them so I don't think Schneider is worth a 2nd and Garland. i disagree. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, smithers joe said: i disagree. Yup. Totally agree Joe. When we can get a top four young D, and the cost is only Garland + a 2nd, that’s an easy yes. That second is the player we hope will turn into Schneider. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, nameci said: Did you realize that all of the rhd that we have been hoping for in a Miller/Garland trade were second round picks? No way in hell would I include a second round pick in ANY trade. That’s why our prospect pool sucks and we are left wishing that we had drafted guys like Iorio, Faber, Peeke, Grans, the Russian guy from New Jersey or Morrow. Even Erik Cernak was a second round pick. I like your creative trade proposal, but including a second round pick is a non starter for me. I am hoping that we trade down at the draft and try to recoup the second round pick that we are missing. There a lots of promising defensemen slated to go late in the first round or in the second. It’s time to stop wishing and time to start drafting. You know, who is a second round pick? Woo.... Not all trees grows into heaven. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Wouldn't ya know it? CDC's in love with 2nd round picks and we don't got none. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 @HKSR interesting one.... This would definitely give us something to build on... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Wouldn't ya know it? CDC's in love with 2nd round picks and we don't got none. Well, we haven't had a 1st in a while, so at least we have one for this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, HKSR said: And how many 2nd round pick defencemen make little to no impact on the team that drafted them? You've been a Canuck fan too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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