HKSR Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 To NYI: JT Miller Podkolzin Myers To VAN: Dobson Wahlstrom Johnston Sign Tierney or Rask @ $2M AAV Gotta pay to play. You want Dobson? You give up a serious blue chip prospect to get him -- Podkolzin. A LOT of value going back and forth in this deal. You have 99pt man Miller, top tier prospect in Podkolzin. A big top 4 RHD in Myers. The NYI give up a bonafide top pairing RHD in Dobson. A top tier prospect of their own in Wahlstrom. Johnston is the oddball here, but he brings a ton of toughness to the Canucks. Again, it's gotta hurt to acquire somebody like Dobson. This deal hurts, but would be very beneficial in the long run. The top pairing for the Canucks would be set for years. Miller << Dobson Podkolzin > Wahlstrom Myers > Johnston Mikheyev-Petey-Boeser Kuzmenko-Bo-Wahlstrom/Hoglander Pearson-Tierney-Garland Dickinson-Lazar-Johnston/Lockwood (Johnston or Lockwood in depending on the opponent) Hughes-Dobson OEL-Schenn Rathbone-Dermott Poolman Burroughs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Awesome! Get ‘er done JR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 damn this is a hard one for me to give up on Podz, but thats a heck of a line-up, I think we'd have to be favourites in the Pacific with that group. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Why do people keep thinking we can land Dobson? It's about as likely as us trading Hughes or Pettersson. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Tierney already signed with a team https://www.tsn.ca/florida-panthers-chris-tierney-one-year-two-way-contract-1.1827278 Edited July 21, 2022 by Shekky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Why do people keep thinking we can land Dobson? It's about as likely as us trading Hughes or Pettersson. No one is untradeable 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Why do people keep thinking we can land Dobson? It's about as likely as us trading Hughes or Pettersson. True. Not likely. But not impossible. NYI believe they are in their window now. Why else would they be interested in Miller? They're in the opposite position of the Canucks: 1. Their forwards are the weak spot. They have plenty of defensive depth. Even on the RHD. 2. Their team is primarily in their late 20s and early 30s. 3. Their window to win is now. The Canucks situation: 1. Their defence is the weak spot. They have plenty of forward depth, but no depth on D. Especially RHD. 2. The Canucks are primarily in their early to mid 20s. 3. The window to win is in a few years. If the Canucks were in their window right now, and Miller is his current 99pt centre, with Petey as 2C and Bo as 3C, and assuming most of the team were in their late 20s or early 30s, you gotta believe Petey would be dangled for a guy like Seth Jones if it meant the odds of winning now are increased. It's not like Dobson is gonna be on an ELC this year. He's likely gonna be $7M+ AAV once he's re-signed. They have Pulock, Mayfield, Dobson, Romanov (can play RHD), and Wilde coming up the pipeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shekky said: Tierney already signed with a team https://www.tsn.ca/florida-panthers-chris-tierney-one-year-two-way-contract-1.1827278 My bad... Viktor Rask is my preference anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just now, Sbriggs said: No one is untradeable How often do you see a young star player traded unless they've specifically stated they want out? It virtually never happens, and considering Dobson is a top pairing RD (probably the hardest position in the NHL to fill), they'd be absolutely nuts to trade him unless it was a huge overpayment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: How often do you see a young star player traded unless they've specifically stated they want out? It virtually never happens, and considering Dobson is a top pairing RD (probably the hardest position in the NHL to fill), they'd be absolutely nuts to trade him unless it was a huge overpayment. They will fork over their best player, and they will like it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Swap Myers with Hughes. New York has to also give a 1st and 2nd round pick. I don't see the Islanders trading Dobson without overpaying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rawkdrummer Posted July 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2022 I think the Canucks resign Miller 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: How often do you see a young star player traded unless they've specifically stated they want out? It virtually never happens, and considering Dobson is a top pairing RD (probably the hardest position in the NHL to fill), they'd be absolutely nuts to trade him unless it was a huge overpayment. More then not it does happen for whatever reason.us to maker your team better you pay a heavy price more then not.They said they would not move him,but reality is he is just another player that could get you a Miller type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: How often do you see a young star player traded unless they've specifically stated they want out? It virtually never happens, and considering Dobson is a top pairing RD (probably the hardest position in the NHL to fill), they'd be absolutely nuts to trade him unless it was a huge overpayment. Ya so? It still doesn't mean he's untradeable it just means it would be tough but not impossible. With the situation that happened at the draft if I was Vancouver I'd feel we have the upper hand and make them pay if they want Miller, if not we have plenty of other suitors Edited July 21, 2022 by Sbriggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, rawkdrummer said: I think the Canucks resign Miller Unless we can package Garland with something to bring us a top 4 RHD to play with Hughes, Miller is the ticket for us. I cannot see us starting the season with him unless he's signed to an extension because after that his value starts going down Edited July 21, 2022 by Sbriggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: Ya so? It still doesn't mean he's untradeable it just means it would be tough but not impossible. With the situation that happened at the draft if I was Vancouver I'd feel we have the upper hand and make them pay if they want Miller, if not we have plenty of other suitors If Jersey or the Rangers Get Tkatchuk then Lou Lam will be under the gun to match up. Miller is the only guy out there for him st that point. Pay up or get rolled by those other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: If Jersey or the Rangers Get Tkatchuk then Lou Lam will be under the gun to match up. Miller is the only guy out there for him st that point. Pay up or get rolled by those other teams. Tarasanko is out there and they could probably get him cheaper then Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, Alflives said: If Jersey or the Rangers Get Tkatchuk then Lou Lam will be under the gun to match up. Miller is the only guy out there for him st that point. Pay up or get rolled by those other teams. No way Rangers can afford JTm much less Tkachuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I can't do it, all these guys names sound like names from 80's detective shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, rawkdrummer said: I think the Canucks resign Miller tough luck for him, forcing him into retirement. I though JR and Alvin liked Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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