2023 NHL Entry Draft

[hammertime]

3 hours ago, Angry Goose said:

Like Stan Smyl pronouncing another legendary pick. 

The Vancouver Canucks are proud to select.

 

Dabilmore Desmoreski

 

 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, hammertime said:

The Vancouver Canucks are proud to select.

 

Dabilmore Desmoreski

 

 

Could be “Alex Sandman Pelican” too. 

[YearoftheNuck]

9 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

Dvorsky or Reinbacher  (#1-2 defensive RD)

Moore or Danielson  (#2C, with lots of speed)

Wood or Benson  (#1LW, one day)

Sale or Barlow  (#2RW, with grit/tenacity)

ASP or Willander (#1-2 mobile RD, a very valuable trade chip if needed)

 

I agree with all of these. However Dvorsky and Reinbacher are basically a tie for me. I know that’s a total cop out lol, but I see so much upside in both players and they both address our biggest needs. 
 

I really, really like Willander too, but I just think ASP has that star factor, whereas Willander will likely be solid as hell, but probably not quite the star that ASP will be.  

[Pure961089]

Who else sees a little of Rasmus Dahlin?

Edited June 2, 2023 by Pure961089

[R3aL]

56 minutes ago, Pure961089 said:

Who else sees a little of Rasmus Dahlin?

I don’t see that at all. But he’s a great skater for his height.

 

Be interesting if he’s on say Stevie Ys number 1 d spot and the BPA at 9 for them. Or to the NYI pick if he ma available ther

 

Simashev-Seider

Edvinsson-

 

could be a very large, young, mobile and impressive d core to build around 

 

*I’ve also only watched highlights and heard / read scouting reports

 

so my opinion on the Russians aren’t very strong 

Edited June 2, 2023 by R3aL

[R3aL]

10 hours ago, spook007 said:

Well you may be right, but not too sure...

He doesn't engage enough physically to score greasy goals, as per scouting reports, if his skating doesn't improve, and he wants to be efficient bottom 6 player, he needs to get more physical... ? 

The scouting reports do agree though, that he tends to make something out of nothing. 

As the youngest kid in the ncaa he’s also learning a power game in. Harder environment.

 

he may not be like Ryan Leonard in how he uses his size or plays with an edge like that.

 

but he does use his size to overpower players, he does win puck battles and he’s super strong as a net front presence.

 

I see a kid that will continue to learn to use his size effectively and also get a lot stronger on the gym. Even though he’s big he’s still not that strong. He’s just learning in the gym right now too and the next couple years he’s gonna get a lot stronger.

 

i love the potential of this kid.

 

he’s also a fierce competitor and wants to be the guy. 
 

i like his skating too in the way I think it did improve this year and I think as his legs get stronger and if he does skating summers he’s going to really move well. 
 

if woods On the Board when we go up I want to select him. 

[spook007]

1 hour ago, R3aL said:

As the youngest kid in the ncaa he’s also learning a power game in. Harder environment.

 

he may not be like Ryan Leonard in how he uses his size or plays with an edge like that.

 

but he does use his size to overpower players, he does win puck battles and he’s super strong as a net front presence.

 

I see a kid that will continue to learn to use his size effectively and also get a lot stronger on the gym. Even though he’s big he’s still not that strong. He’s just learning in the gym right now too and the next couple years he’s gonna get a lot stronger.

 

i love the potential of this kid.

 

he’s also a fierce competitor and wants to be the guy. 
 

i like his skating too in the way I think it did improve this year and I think as his legs get stronger and if he does skating summers he’s going to really move well. 
 

if woods On the Board when we go up I want to select him. 

He would be worth the gamble. The things I mentioned came from scouting reports, 

They seem to think they are question marks as well. 
If he was a sure thing with his size, he'd be top 5-6 even in this draft. 6'4+ big power forward with best goal scoring record in the NCAA as a 17 year old since Toews...

 

I'm on the Wood train as well. There are likely players with higher floors than Wood at 11, but the potential to be playing at 6'4-6'5 well over 200lbs they don't have...

To be honest, I find it very hard to decide, who to go for this year. 
 

Do we go for skill?

speed?

Dman or Forward?

Center? RHD?

Size?

highest floor or biggest potential?

Are they prepared to wait, or do they need someone to join the team soonest (cap). 
Boom/Bust?

Normally a few stands out, but there are so many this year, and they all look like can't miss... 

History tells us differently though...

Edited June 2, 2023 by spook007

[Ilunga]

In this article it is being reported that none of the Russian players who played overseas this season will be attending the combine 

 

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/06/snapshots-vancouver-pettersson-combine.html#ref=home

 

 

 

[hammertime]

1 hour ago, Ilunga said:

In this article it is being reported that none of the Russian players who played overseas this season will be attending the combine 

 

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/06/snapshots-vancouver-pettersson-combine.html#ref=home

 

 

 

This is a real bummer. Understandable but a bummer none the less. I'm really high on Michkov, But, Simashev and have them all in my top 10 on merit. I think there is a good chance Simashev and But fall to the 2nd. 

 

If we do indeed trade down if Chibisov is trusted by Alvin and has a good read on these kids. This could be a franchise altering draft or it could blow up completely in Alvins face. Aside from Reinbacher who I think goes before our pick. The players that when I watch I think would be the absolute best guys to complement our core it's Simashev, But or Danielson. When I think about it though even if Danielson is on the board who I have at 6 (I doubt he will be). I would 100% trade that pick for both Simashev, But. 

 

 

[Shcott]

15 hours ago, Angry Goose said:

Like Stan Smyl pronouncing another legendary pick. 

Almost choked on my breakfast on that one 

[shiznak]

On 5/30/2023 at 4:39 PM, HighOnHockey said:

Seems almost fated if you ask me. Washington probably takes Michkov, and if Philly is still trying to build a "John Torterella team" that would mean Barlow or Leonard for them, so Reinbacher should be there. I said in my mock draft a couple years ago that I was convinced Lucas Raymond was a stud and Hakan Andersson would see that, so Detroit would pick him at 4. This year I'm saying Sandin-Pellikka is not all that, and I think Hakan Andersson will see that and they go Reinbacher at 9.

 

1. Chicago - Connor Bedard - Obviously

2. Anaheim - Adam Fantilli - Bruce Franklin has a long history drafting out of USHL and NTDP. Will Smith could make sense here, but Fantilli seems consensus BPA.

3. Columbus - Leo Carlsson - If there is one GM who does not have a rich and storied history drafting NTDP, it is Kekkalainen. Michkov is a strong possibility here, but Carlsson seems the most logical choice.

4. San Jose - Dalibor Dvorsky - Mike Grier is a rookie GM, but head scouting director Chris Morehouse has some history to go off. Morehouse was Kekalainen's head scout when they picked Tarasov, Marchenko, Chinakhov so Michkov could be possible here too, but given the difficulties Grier has already had signing Chmelevski, I'm betting he steers clear of the Russian here. Not much history for Morehouse out of the NTDP either.

5. Montreal - Will Smith

6. Arizona - Nate Danielson - Tampa picked out of CHL with almost every single first round pick of Plandowski's tenure there. I was thinking Barlow initially, but Danielson seems like the guy here.

7. Philadelphia - Ryan Leonard - Brent Flahr played a role in building the heavy Minnesota Wild we see today. He also has a long and successful history with the NTDP.

8. Washington - Matvei Michkov

9. Detroit - David Reinbacher

10. St Louis - Matthew Wood - Head scout Tony Feltrin is a Vancouver Island native, so I'd be surprised if Wood falls any further than this.

11. Vancouver - Samuel Honzek - Todd Harvey is the head scout, but when the GM has a background in amateur scouting, they'll tend to have a major say in early draft picks. Allvin never had a lot of early picks in Pittsburgh, and didn't have great success with the picks he had. Europeans via the CHL seems to be his specialty.

 

Montreal is pretty set down the middle with Suzuki and Dach. Unless they move Dach to the wing, due to his poor FO%, but St.Louis said it wasn’t a concern for the team. I’ll be surprised if they don’t go with a defensemen in the 5 slot. That’s their biggest weakness in their system.

[smithers joe]

6 hours ago, spook007 said:

He would be worth the gamble. The things I mentioned came from scouting reports, 

They seem to think they are question marks as well. 
If he was a sure thing with his size, he'd be top 5-6 even in this draft. 6'4+ big power forward with best goal scoring record in the NCAA as a 17 year old since Toews...

 

I'm on the Wood train as well. There are likely players with higher floors than Wood at 11, but the potential to be playing at 6'4-6'5 well over 200lbs they don't have...

To be honest, I find it very hard to decide, who to go for this year. 
 

Do we go for skill?

speed?

Dman or Forward?

Center? RHD?

Size?

highest floor or biggest potential?

Are they prepared to wait, or do they need someone to join the team soonest (cap). 
Boom/Bust?

Normally a few stands out, but there are so many this year, and they all look like can't miss... 

History tells us differently though...

there is another direction they could go. trade boeser to chicago for switch of 1st bround picks and a second rounder, then trade that pick and the second for a player closer to their prime, at the position they need help in. owners are looking for a win now team.

[HighOnHockey]

15 minutes ago, shiznak said:

Montreal is pretty set down the middle with Suzuki and Dach. Unless they move Dach to the wing, due to his poor FO%, but St.Louis said it wasn’t a concern for the team. I’ll be surprised if they don’t go with a defensemen in the 5 slot. That’s their biggest weakness in their system.

Would be a huge shock if anyone took at defenseman at 5. There just aren't any defensemen in this draft as good as the top few forwards.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, HighOnHockey said:

Would be a huge shock if anyone took at defenseman at 5. There just aren't any defensemen in this draft as good as the top few forwards.

I'm hoping the Habs are the club who gets Michkov. He would be great in Montreal. Plus, the fans there would love him. Perfect landing spot for him, I think.

[Nucker 67]

23 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said:

Would be a huge shock if anyone took at defenseman at 5. There just aren't any defensemen in this draft as good as the top few forwards.

Taking a D that high is a forward heavy draft like this might not be the best idea, but I can see someone doing it. Wouldn't be shocked to see Reinbacher and Sandin Pellikka both go in the Top 10. RDs are valuable. 

 

My guess is Benson and Moore will drop. 

[Seannnp]

On 5/31/2023 at 10:44 PM, Pure961089 said:

Who should the Canucks pick if both were available?  Dvorsky or Reinbacher.

This would be the hardest decision the Canucks could end up making. 

 

Dvorsky

Reinbacher 

Wood

 

I would be ecstatic with either of these 3. Hopefully 2 of 3 are available at 11. I think I lean towards Dvorsky over Reinbacher here, simply because we could add a top 4 defenseman via trade or free agency over the next two seasons. Also, isnt next years draft supposed to be filled with an excellent defense class?  

 

With that being said and after flip-flopping almost every hour I believe I have my final list of 5 players Id like to draft ranked. Who the hell knows though, this could be different in an hour

 

Wood (swing for the fences type that could be a force in the NHL with improved skating, not to say its bad now

Dvorsky (size, skill, high motor, high floor, likely tops out as a 2C but thats what we need) 

Reinbacher (what weve been missing)

Moore (Potential 2c but high end 3c with great speed)

Danielsson (Does alot of things well) 

 

coming around on Barlow as well who i previously had under DND

Edited June 2, 2023 by Seannnp

[Wolfgang Durst]

1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said:

Would be a huge shock if anyone took at defenseman at 5. There just aren't any defensemen in this draft as good as the top few forwards.

entirely possible that Habs select Reinbacher at #5. I guess you have already read this piece of information below. If not you heard it here first. If Bedard, Fantili, Smith and Carlsson are gone when Habs pick you can make a case for selecting Reinbacher at #5. I will share some information why I think Reinbacher at #5 is not a reach.

 

He had a stand-out draft season in NL

- Headcoach Jeff Tomlinson, a canadian said about Reinbacher "he's our best option"

- won rookie of the year, won most improved player in NL, ranked third in the top 10 D-Man in the NL

- played on a first pairing

 

There is no denying that Reinbacher had a way better season in his draft year than Dalibor Dvorsky.

 

He projects as a No. 2 Defenceman in the NHL

Freimüller, an austrian scout with more than 25 years of scouting experience and a former europrean scout for the Atlanta Thrashers said about Reinbacher that he has the potential to become a no. 2 D-Man in the NHL. according to him Reinbacher belongs to the same tier as Simon Nemec and Jiricek (selected six overall in the draft 2022)

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by Wolfgang Durst

[Seannnp]

On 6/1/2023 at 8:56 AM, eeeeergh said:

this is exactly right

if you have a pick at #11 in this stacked of a draft

and you have a very below average prospect pool

 

you MUST swing for the fences

 

take the most boom and bust guy, the one that could become a franchise player if all the stars align and his development goes right

 

thats zach benson if he falls

I dont think Benson falls that far. I think he goes top 10 for sure despite his size. Too much skill to pass up there. However, between him and Dvorsky, I still go with Dvorsky. We need size in our lineup. 

[Seannnp]

21 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:

 

I would probably go:

 

Dvorsky or Reinbacher (very close) Potential for top pair RD partner for Hughes too great to pass up.

Moore or Danielson - Probably best skater in draft and super athletic most recently listed at 188lbs

Wood or Benson - Size and skill combo + very high ceiling 

Sale or Barlow - Pro style game + high offensive ceiling

ASP or Willander - Puck moving specialist and plays a smooth calm game from the back end.

 

Sale is a great skater and owns a toolbox full of tools that you need to succeed in the pros.

I go all on the left. Change Reinbacher to Dvorsky. Go hard after Graves or Gavrikov in FA with the intention of moving Myers through any means necessary. 

[HighOnHockey]

8 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

 

There is no denying that Reinbacher had a way better season in his draft year than Dalibor Dvorsky.

 

Lol if you say so.