eeeeergh Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Tom Willander, Nate Danielson & Colby Barlow. Report is these are 3 guys the Canucks have taken to dinner in Buffalo. Apparently didn't take ASP. Willander seems to be getting more buzz as the guy for us. Oof thats 3 pretty safe picks. Gimme more of that chaotic boom or bust energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Brett Pesce isn't a guy that gets a ton of fanfare, but you need reliable players like that. I'd have to look more in to Willander but in the times I've seen him he just looks like a responsible minute eater with good puck & passing skills. Said a few times, our picks just need to hit. Regardless of how they progress. Whether it be to HOF status or just quality night in night out players that take away the needs to bargain shop or hit the free agency frenzy. A player that can come in from the draft play responsibly and do the right things while not being a liability that we can get 7-10 good seasons out of is always a hit on a draft pick 1 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Third Round Draft pick targets: (Based on Horn's Top 100 for May) https://thehockeywriters.com/2023-nhl-draft-rankings-horn-may/ Junior Awesome name team member: Matthew Mania, RHD, Sudbury Wolves, 6'1" 180 lbs, 67 games, 38 points, 42 PIMs, +21 Local Product: Mazden "Don't call me Miata" Leslie: RHD, 6'0" 193 lbs, Vancouver Giants, 66 games, 50 points, 64 PIM's, -1 Anton Wahlberg, C, 6'3" 194 lbs, Malmo Redhawks. 4 points in 17 games, and 27 Points in 32 games for Malmo Jr. 53 PIM's + 4 (Long term Project) Cam Allen, RHD, 6'0", 194 lbs, Guelph Storm, 62 games, 25 points, 72 PIMs, however -22 (yikes) Owen Beckner, C, Salmon Arm Silverbacks, 6'2" 175 lbs, 53 games and 50 points, 10 points in 14 games in the playoffs. (not sure if he's committed to college) Noel Nordh: LW, 6'2" 196 lbs. Brynas Jr. and Brynas IF, Jr. numbers: 27 points in 32 games, -1, Swedish League numbers 10 games only 1 goal, -4 All should be available from the 3rd to 4th round range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Mariska has the best attributes of both her parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: 48 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Following up VC's original post for those who don't have the Athletic: this was in Harman Dayal's article Edited June 12, 2023 by Off_The_Schneid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) I always wait for the dinner tidbit every year. Those three players would each compliment our core extremely well. I have my reservations about there being other guys with more upside, but I like all three players. On one hand, you have a right-handed centre with a projectable frame who has great range in his game, a left-winger who brings physicality and has an elite shot (and leadership intangibles), and a right D who has many projectable attributes (size, skating, physicality, etc.). They're all more on the 'safe' side, but that doesn't make them bad prospects/potential picks. Edited June 12, 2023 by Herberts Vasiljevs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Willander and Danielson make alot of sense based on the needs of the Canucks. Not sure they would be my first choices but they are guys that some scouts believe have more to give if put in better situations. Skill set outweighs their production. Not sold on Barlow due to his puck distribution skills, think he is a high floor low ceiling pick. His PK skills would be welcomed but Canucks need a homerun at 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Following up VC's original post for those who don't have the Athletic: this was in Harman Dayal's article What happen if Benson is available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Tom Willander, Nate Danielson & Colby Barlow. Report is these are 3 guys the Canucks have taken to dinner in Buffalo. Apparently didn't take ASP. Willander seems to be getting more buzz as the guy for us. The more i look at these picks, the more im convinced that IF these are the targets, the Canucks are trading down 2 of these 3 will be available at spot #19, these are not the kind of picks you make at #11 Would be ok with the trade down to spot #19 if it nets us an additional 2nd and we can unload a contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckLuck19 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) Hi all! First post here and excited for the draft and what should be an interesting off season across the league! I went to this site https://draftprospectshockey.com/draftsim/#/ Others have posted their drafts here from that site too, and created my draft. Alot of the players I liked were gone at 11, so I traded own only 2 spots to Buffalo to gather more picks. The sim creates "value per pick" that has to match on each side so you can't say trade 11 and a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders for first overall. Its actually quite neat, worth trying. Given the uncertainty in this draft after the top 3 I selected high randomness (about 75% of the way to the top of the scale, perhaps a bit aggressive but so be it, I do think this draft could be all over the place given the differences in scouting lists I've seen). Anyways, here was my trade. We move down 2 spots to get a high second, then move down on other picks later. We have a trade to announce! Vancouver trades picks 11. 75, 89, and 119, 171 to Buffalo For picks 13, 45, 109 On the board when I chose at 13 was Dvorksy, Reinbacher, Ritchie, Stenberg, Willander If the Canucks could make a trade like that and come up with the players below, it would be a HUGE win. The players I selected, all can skate, have size (and use it) and fill the holes in our prospect pool. 13. Dvorsky (our potential 2c, with he and Raty coming, future at C looks pretty good, both with size and hands). I didn't take Reinbacher because he's overrated in my view, and I was tempted for Willander but felt Dvorsky has too much upside to pass on. And given we have a second now, grabbing a physical RD would be possible. 45. Strback (get a big physical RD) - 6'2 205. Two way Dman, fearless shot blocker, smooth skater, excellent hockey iq. 105. Brady Cleveland - 6'5" 211. Big, physical LD. Said to be tough as nails, a solid skater and always looking to punish players. 107, Tomas Suchanek - 6'2 Czech goalie, WJC goalie for Czechia. 20 years old but has the tools and size for Clark to work with 109. Samuel Barcik - 6'2 RD, Big defense first dman Edited June 12, 2023 by NuckLuck19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Jonathan Castagna would be a great late round pick, big center (6'2.25" 195lbs) would performed very well in the combine especially the agility he has for his size. Set to play in the BCHL next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: I didn't mention size. he's actually grown considerably since the beginning of the season judging by the combine. It's the other things about his play that give me pause. his defensive play in jr is great, but he does a ton of things on a nightly basis that would get him pushed off or buried by an NHL pro. His offense is great, but again; those nifty moves would get him Holmqvisted against the boards 9 out of 10 times. There's something about him (to a lesser extent sale) that give me a wait a moment feeling But if he was bigger and he did those moves you’d see him being more likely to be successful. So I still read your opinion / view of Benson like it’s a size issue? i get the feeling though. As I’m nervous about him too. If he’s on the board at 11 I’m not confident he’s the BPA for us or in general too. So I guess I have a wait a moment feeling around him too but I do really like him. If he struggles in the NHL it’s going to change the way I look at prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: The more i look at these picks, the more im convinced that IF these are the targets, the Canucks are trading down 2 of these 3 will be available at spot #19, these are not the kind of picks you make at #11 Would be ok with the trade down to spot #19 if it nets us an additional 2nd and we can unload a contract How do you know? Quite possibly non of those players will be there at 19. Then what? Everyone had their own lists. If those are the players they ranked in their range (unless someone ranked higher on their list falls) then that’s who they will choose. It’s really as simple as that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I'd be thrilled with a RHD out of this 1st round: The hype was all around Reinbacher, but then ASP made his case as well. Now sounds like Willander is making waves too. I don't think we can go wrong with any of these 3. The likelihood is 1 of them will be available at #11. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Tom Willander, Nate Danielson & Colby Barlow. Report is these are 3 guys the Canucks have taken to dinner in Buffalo. Apparently didn't take ASP. Willander seems to be getting more buzz as the guy for us. Thanks for the recap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 So many guys in range with size and the ability to use it Drafting another small guy who lacks physicality would be a huge mistake. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckLuck19 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: The more i look at these picks, the more im convinced that IF these are the targets, the Canucks are trading down 2 of these 3 will be available at spot #19, these are not the kind of picks you make at #11 Would be ok with the trade down to spot #19 if it nets us an additional 2nd and we can unload a contract Willander is moving up hard, particularly after his interviews. The kid sounds like a 25 year old NHL player in his professionalism, maturity and mentality, and he has all the tools. It would not surprise me one bit if he goes ahead of either ASP or Reinbacher. I don't see Danielson falling that far either given his toolbox and the fact he's a center with size. If the Canucks want to move down, their best bet is to trade down a couple of spots with say Buffalo to gather more picks (hoping Buf really wants a player at 11 who may go right after). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: So many guys in range with size and the ability to use it Drafting another small guy who lacks physicality would be a huge mistake. Well I can confidently say that these are 3 guys you would have taken for dinner too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, NuckLuck19 said: Willander is moving up hard, particularly after his interviews. The kid sounds like a 25 year old NHL player in his professionalism, maturity and mentality, and he has all the tools. It would not surprise me one bit if he goes ahead of either ASP or Reinbacher. I don't see Danielson falling that far either given his toolbox and the fact he's a center with size. If the Canucks want to move down, their best bet is to trade down a couple of spots with say Buffalo to gather more picks (hoping Buf really wants a player at 11 who may go right after). But then Barlow could easily go to Arizona at 12. If these are the three guys they like, they may as well make their pick at 11. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Camel Toe Drag Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: This is would be the best thing for the franchise. He’s maybe a couple years away. Great development path. Stop with the boom or bust talk. Take the the prospect who plays a premium position and that holds value if you decide to trade them. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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