MaxVerstappen33 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: So we get Bedard and the Yotes get a King’s ransom and win a cup 2 years later? When's the last time a exceptional status/#1 busted due to injuries like Lindros did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: When's the last time a exceptional status/#1 busted due to injuries like Lindros did Lindros busted? What? The guy is in the HHOF. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Lindros busted? What? The guy is in the HHOF. He never won a cup. And one of the players going the other way (Forsberg) did. I think that's what the other poster is snarking about Edited October 31, 2022 by MaxVerstappen33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: He never won a cup. And one of the players going the other way (Forsberg) did. I think that's what the other poster is snarking about Oh. I get it. Thanks. absolutely, it would be great if we got a haul, like the Nordique did for Lindros, for Bedard. But Lindros was still a great player, who did change how the game was played. I don’t think Bedard will accomplish that. He’s more like Marcel Dionne to me. A great point producer, but not a game who changes the game. The Big E was a very unique player. Yup nail he met ?Scott Stevens, of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: When's the last time a exceptional status/#1 busted due to injuries like Lindros did Lindros didn’t bust, but Colorado won the cup out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: So we get Bedard and the Yotes get a King’s ransom and win a cup 2 years later? They can have Miller , BB OEL , and Myers plus 2 1st. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanless Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 10:30 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: Only thing he'd be hated league wide by the other 31 other teams. Lindros was viewed like how Vancouver fans view Hodgson's Dad. In the end it was one of the more interesting hockey trades, and Forsberg was probably more valuable for Quebec/Colorado than Lindros did for Philly. My concern for Bedard, is not his talent, skill level and skating. Which are fantastic. I'm just concerned at 5'10" and 185 lbs. That doesn't help Vancouver compete against bigger more physical teams. I'm not saying Vancouver would or should turn him down. I would just like a team that's bigger, faster, skilled and have a bit of bite on the team. Crosby draft listing 5’11 195 lbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) On 10/30/2022 at 1:30 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: Only thing he'd be hated league wide by the other 31 other teams. Lindros was viewed like how Vancouver fans view Hodgson's Dad. In the end it was one of the more interesting hockey trades, and Forsberg was probably more valuable for Quebec/Colorado than Lindros did for Philly. My concern for Bedard, is not his talent, skill level and skating. Which are fantastic. I'm just concerned at 5'10" and 185 lbs. That doesn't help Vancouver compete against bigger more physical teams. I'm not saying Vancouver would or should turn him down. I would just like a team that's bigger, faster, skilled and have a bit of bite on the team. Lindros was a better player then Forsberg. Both those guys would eat the league alive today, but even more so Lindros. He'd be virtually unstoppable, could play his entire career now, with his head down and not worry about it. Back then every team had guys that could try and stop him, and it wasn't that easy. Lindros was every bit as special as Bure was. Unique. Had hands like Crosby...and a body like Tony Twist but 6'4". Just ridiculous really. My wife tutored him in math while he played for Oshawa (one year older)...was a total gentleman, polite and if anything a little shy. He never wanted to play in a fanbase where he would be a spectical "come play with us and you will be a god" was the Nords line. Of course it was made into an anti-french thing, which it never was. The supplementary guys included in that deal ... COL won that ... Ricci and Simon. Todd Bertuzzi was also part of that trade tree. Ron Hextall, Steve Duschene. For sure PHI would have done better doing something else with all those assets. PHI got swept in 97...it didn't take long for Lindros's team to reach their high water mark. In a different era, Lindros could have been so much more. Same with Forsberg really, both guys suffered playing that style of hockey. Edited November 1, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Wanless said: Crosby draft listing 5’11 195 lbs It's not like McDavid isn't a twig either. It's rare that a guy is big and skilled at the same level. Messier, Lindros, Jagr, Thorton.... Gretzky was a twig too, a ton of hockey guys were saying he'd be murdered as soon as he joined the league ... even after playing a year in the WHA (which wasn't much different then the NHL really...if anything a bit meaner)... at 165lbs and 17...scored over 50 goals too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, IBatch said: It's not like McDavid isn't a twig either. It's rare that a guy is big and skilled at the same level. Messier, Lindros, Jagr, Thorton.... Gretzky was a twig too, a ton of hockey guys were saying he'd be murdered as soon as he joined the league ... even after playing a year in the WHA (which wasn't much different then the NHL really...if anything a bit meaner)... at 165lbs and 17...scored over 50 goals too! Yup and really in the end its not about size, its having the right amount of snarl, discipline and competitiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, qwijibo said: What !!! Damn. He's just being polite ( missed this post. glad to see the word getting out) Edited November 1, 2022 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I'd love to draft him, watch him end up in San Jose or Anaheim Anywhere but Arizona, that'd be a colossal waste, he'd be fun to watch with that Ducks group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claiborne55 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 At 5ft 9 inches Would Conner Bedard be the shortest player ever selected first overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 11:19 AM, Pears said: Size is seriously overrated. Garland is around Bedard’s size and that hasn’t affected him one bit. Sure it has. Connor has top tier dangles, and one of the better motors in the league. Could you imagine how dominate of a winger he would be with Boesers frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 2:08 PM, qwijibo said: "I don't THINK I'd pull a Lindros" .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honourable Hughes Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 At this rate he might not have to pull a Lindros lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Claiborne55 said: At 5ft 9 inches Would Conner Bedard be the shortest player ever selected first overall? At 17yrs old, he's the same height and weighs more than Patrick Kane when he was drafted 1st overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, higgyfan said: At 17yrs old, he's the same height and weighs more than Patrick Kane when he was drafted 1st overall. All true, but I don’t see Bedard as becoming a franchise changing player like Kane. I’d rather we draft that Russian kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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