PetterssonOrPeterson Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Devron said: Sign Bo Horvat right now. I’m gonna crack skulls here soon get rid of miller first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: OEL $8.25 million. lol @ all the armchair gm's here on CDC who kept saying we should add him when he showed interest because "if you have a good chance to sign a player like this, you do it". clowns Edited November 9, 2022 by PetterssonOrPeterson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: Just on my own observations it seemed like Myers played well coming back from injury while OEL really struggled and the last few games OEL has looked better but Myers has been brutal. Just the eye test at a glance, though. Overall I think the defence is a team issue rather than one or two guys - even if those two haven’t had good overall seasons thus far. The problem is, our team defence is not strong enough on the puck. We don't assert ourselves on the ice. When we have the puck along our own endboards, the defence is too weak in their puck movement. I think the 2nd or 3rd goal tonight was due to a weak Myers clear. Maybe it's the lack of confidence. I dunno what it is but basically we play soft when the going gets tough. Bieksa nailed it last year when he said we're a fun team to play against. Adding Dakota has not done anything. We're still a fun team to play against. What's even worse is that we now have a reputation for being soft. Teams aren't worried when they are down a couple of goals against us. I'm sure their coach and the bench is saying just press hard and the Canucks will fold. Not a good reputation to have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: $8.25 million. lol @ all the armchair gm's here on CDC who kept saying we should add him when he showed interest because "if you have a good chance to sign a player like this, you do it". clowns I don't understand this. He's a much smarter player than this. I have no idea why he and Myers decided to collectively stink it up this year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, CanucksJay said: I don't understand this. He's a much smarter player than this. I have no idea why he and Myers decided to collectively stink it up this year. he was a much smarter player than this. signed that retirement contract, top 14 highest paid defenceman in the league, makes more money than the likes of victor hedman, then decided to not give a f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Suddenly we're 1 win from a playoff spot, crazy year so far...that is an easy team to play against right now to be fair. Another strong game by Bo but Garland really played well tonight, great hustle to create chances. Podkolzin looked good too despite generating anything. Petey was great again, his line has great chemistry and that was a vintage Mikheyev goal, something we've lacked for years. Worth the 5M there and he quietly has 8pts in 10 games despite a slow start. Miller looked good at center again but don't think this is a long term solution, I think Bruce was wise to put him at center against a weaker team but offensive stars will eat him up defensively. Brock looked good first game back too. Finally our 4th line looked good again, special mention to Studnicka on a huge goal but Petey deserves credit there for the smart defensive stick otherwise you know this game gets tied up. Defensively, what a mess. We were getting out shot 30 to 10 in the middle of the game...OEL and Myers were a mess on that first goal, I thought Bear and Rathbone looked good though zipping pucks around and passing nicely. The PP didn't do great for once but are still top 5 in the league, meanwhile the PK nearly blows us the game, what a terrible job picking up Stuztle to let him walk in. Finally goaltending has been the story of the season. Martin lets in two stinkers from the point without much traffic but then makes some huge saves to keep us in the game. 4 goals against but a >.900% is now considered a good game for us. Meanwhile Demko has just 1 win... On the whole another stinky game but this offence can outscore a lot of teams right now. We're going to have to be much better against Montreal and wait for Demko to arrive. Surely the message has to be win and we're finally in a playoff spot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 31 shots against with 6 minutes left in the 2nd. Geeeeez. We desperately need help on D. And we gotta get Myers outta here. I was a big defender of his, but it's hard when it seems like everyone he plays with struggles. I really don't wanna see another year of that guy on our blueline. Thankfully Stillman was watching from the press box. Keep him outta the lineup. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ilduce39 said: Just on my own observations it seemed like Myers played well coming back from injury while OEL really struggled and the last few games OEL has looked better but Myers has been brutal. Just the eye test at a glance, though. Overall I think the defence is a team issue rather than one or two guys - even if those two haven’t had good overall seasons thus far. well the issue is obvious. the personnel on our defence isn't good enough. not even close. there's a huge gap in terms of talent levels. We have Hughes, who is a 1/2 without a legit top 4 level defensive shut down guy (i miss tanev) and plays with Schenn who, let's face it, is a 6/7 defenceman on any elite defensive squad. As for Myers/OEL: Myers used to play on a pretty solid Winnipeg D-core during his time there. He was kind of an offensive D in his early years at buffalo but obviously his game changed since then. However, even though he's a big guy, he's never really been quite a defensive specialist and he had lots of support playing on a pretty stacked Winnipeg defence before joining the canucks. He's a subpar two-way defenceman, simply put. OEL was an offensive d man for phx/az and had his best years there already. You can see that he still does have a some of that offensive awareness on defence but he doesn't have a good enough partner (a LEGIT right handed defensive top 4 partner) to cover up for his blunders at times because he overcommits or doesn't mark his man properly. This is why a player like John Marino would've been a big help. He's kind of like a younger version of Tanev with more offence. Only 25, he could've played with either Hughes or OEL and cover up for them on the defensive side of things (doing really well in NJ). This is a recent quote from Lindy Ruff, their coach on him: “How steady he’s been. He makes the right plays, keeps the game real simple” <- that's something we desperately need currently. Also, more analysis of his game so far in NJ: "Another thing that has been noticeable has been Marino’s hockey sense. Rarely is he out of position, in his own zone. Thus his ability to cut down the opposition from capitalizing on scoring chances. He makes the proper reads not only in his own zone but in the neutral zone as well". the rest of the d-core like bear, stillman, burroughs, brisebois...etc none of them are LEGIT top 4 defencemen. In fact some of them are even fringe NHLers (ahem.. Stillman). Bear is a healthy scratch in Carolina. On a team with a very poor defence, like ours, they get roster spots. On elite teams, they are probably in the minors. Edited November 9, 2022 by PetterssonOrPeterson 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Alas, the games in hand tells the true story. 5-6-3 is a great improvement (if we were to win tomorrow), but the true playoff line sits just above .500, we we still need another three wins in a row including tomorrow to seriously enter that conversation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 To those Canuck fans in Ottawa ... "Bruce there it is!" Team just needs to score 5 goals and we win! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, -AJ- said: Alas, the games in hand tells the true story. 5-6-3 is a great improvement (if we were to win tomorrow), but the true playoff line sits just above .500, we we still need another three wins in a row including tomorrow to seriously enter that conversation. This is true. But we have to start somewhere. Stay out of the box for one thing lol. Although i do like our fighting majors this year, being a little grumpy is good right now. Schenn, what a leader. Least paid guy is showing the others, and that is infectious. Bieksa's talk ... sure would be great if that was the turning point of the season. If each player is doing exactly what he said - working extra over time every day on their craft, whether they are a tip in net guy, energy guy (gym work), star, grit or whatever. Culture change takes time but it doesn't need to take that long if everyone is on the same page. At least Rathbone is getting some looks now. Dermott, we need him, and Burroughs hasn't been terrible either. Demko needs to use his degree on himself and pretend Ian Clarke is working with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, -AJ- said: Alas, the games in hand tells the true story. 5-6-3 is a great improvement (if we were to win tomorrow), but the true playoff line sits just above .500, we we still need another three wins in a row including tomorrow to seriously enter that conversation. Y, the hole is deeper than it seems. Need to manage the losses and keep getting pts each game. However, psychologically, it will be a boost to get up there for a change, giving them so hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, King Heffy said: He also said the defencemen don't matter. He's constantly throwing Boudreau under the bus, and is directly responsible for the structure issues by hiring a known scumbag like Yeo specifically to bring more structure. JR needs to act like a professional and hold himself accountable instead of pulling the garbage he's pulling here. His conduct is simply not acceptable and is grounds for immediate termination of employment. Bruce under the bus! will be the new chant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I love how the crowd turned in our favor. Was pretty cool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: I love how the crowd turned in our favor. Was pretty cool. Yea that was unexpected. Lots of nuck fans in attendance i guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: get rid of miller first Get rid of boeser before you think about Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 What a game, we could have been blown out of the water after 2 if Martin didn't make some really good saves...even with the softy that he let in Martin held the team in the game and they erupted in the 3rd period to take the victory! Still have to work on playing a complete 60 min game but they got the 2 points and that is what matters at the end of the day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, IBatch said: This is true. But we have to start somewhere. Stay out of the box for one thing lol. Although i do like our fighting majors this year, being a little grumpy is good right now. Schenn, what a leader. Least paid guy is showing the others, and that is infectious. Bieksa's talk ... sure would be great if that was the turning point of the season. If each player is doing exactly what he said - working extra over time every day on their craft, whether they are a tip in net guy, energy guy (gym work), star, grit or whatever. Culture change takes time but it doesn't need to take that long if everyone is on the same page. At least Rathbone is getting some looks now. Dermott, we need him, and Burroughs hasn't been terrible either. Demko needs to use his degree on himself and pretend Ian Clarke is working with him. A fun game to watch even if some weak goals. Bottom line: Our Martin outplayed their guy. When the inevitable scramble starts in the Canuck d-zone how is either Martin or Demko supposed to react? They have the same pressures as their other team mates. They will gamble just like them. If the Sens had hit the net (de BrinCat) they would have won that game. - Much of Rutherford's critic is legit. However Boudreau's job is to win and his d-side won't do that for him unless the goalies play lights out. Canucks need another top 4 d-man that can provide reliable play. - Defense: Considering the number of games YTD I thought Bear had another good game. Rathbone got caught a few times but his puck handling and passing are obviously superior. I hope he plays again in Montreal. He has not got enough games to establish himself and he needs them whether he plays well or not. Canucks have to no what he is capable of. Dermott returning to the lineup might cost Rathbone his opportunity. Sorry but OEL and Meyers are no where close to good enough to be a top PK pairing. - Offence: Canucks have enough fire power to overwhelm defenses if given the opportunity. EP40's hit (can't remember on who) in the 3rd was a beaut. IMHO I consider him the best 2 way player on the team. The 4th line is getting much better. Wow, Garland's ability to stick handle in tight and his puck retrieval is outstanding. * Still think that Miller and Boeser can be moved for d-side upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 hours ago, King Heffy said: Exactly, not to mention the complete lack of professionalism. If I'm Aquilini, I'm hauling that piece of **** into my office and informing him that if he ever disgraces the franchise by pulling a stunt like that again. he will be fired on the spot. Right....because Aquilini has never, and would never do anything to disgrace this franchise..................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 hours ago, King Heffy said: He also said the defencemen don't matter. He's constantly throwing Boudreau under the bus, and is directly responsible for the structure issues by hiring a known scumbag like Yeo specifically to bring more structure. JR needs to act like a professional and hold himself accountable instead of pulling the garbage he's pulling here. His conduct is simply not acceptable and is grounds for immediate termination of employment. Can you elaborate and provide some context to when and where he said "defenseman don't matter". And what information you are using to refer to Yeo as a "scumbag"? Just curious that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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