stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Explain to me how a "thought" by Friedman is some type of credible source and should be the basis of continuing on with a rumour thread that only has trade proposals inside of it? I asked what you consider a credible source and what makes it credible to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: He said other GM’s are thinking and wondering what it would take to get him. How is that a rumour based on anything? Seriously He said there are GM's inquiring about his availability, no? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: He said other GM’s are thinking and wondering what it would take to get him. How is that a rumour based on anything? Seriously And that he believes they have phoned OUR GM in regards to this. It was newsworthy enough to be on HNIC lol. Or you missed that possibly? idk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: TMZ usually breaks stories before the actual news channels... Fair but they also sensationalize and miss a lot as well. They kinda have a shotgun approach. Anyhoo THEY aren't really my point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Baratheon said: All reports are simply that some "what if" phone calls most likely took place. It's not "nothing" and it's also not really anything huge. Is it mandatory to have an extreme opinion on everything here? lol You've met 2023, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Can we all just agree, we miss Bob McKenzie?? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I still don’t think it’ll happen, but Leafs, Bruins and Rangers loading up has to light a fire under Carolina, no? They certainly have the cap space($10m) and if JK($4.8x7yr after this season) is included, they would be getting Miller for $3.2mx7yrs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Plaguez Posted February 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Explain to me how a "thought" by Friedman is some type of credible source and should be the basis of continuing on with a rumour thread that only has trade proposals inside of it? If only there was some way you could not see these posts, like a way to not go into a thread. Like imagine if you didn't click on it and continuously post in this "useless" thread. Hmm, going to need some computer guys to figure out how to make that function a reality. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, higgyfan said: They certainly have the cap space($10m) and if JK($4.8x7yr after this season) is included, they would be getting Miller for $3.2mx7yrs. Car makes the most sense, for both sides 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, stawns said: I asked what you consider a credible source and what makes it credible to you? A credible source is a rumour based on actual discussions with other parties. A "thought" is not a rumour. Thinking that a GM may be calling the Canucks about Miller is not a rumour. It's a thought. We all have thoughts. Until those thoughts are backed up by some type of evidence that a discussion has taken place, then it is only a thought and not an actual source for discussion... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: A credible source is a rumour based on actual discussions with other parties. A "thought" is not a rumour. Thinking that a GM may be calling the Canucks about Miller is not a rumour. It's a thought. We all have thoughts. Until those thoughts are backed up by some type of evidence that a discussion has taken place, then it is only a thought and not an actual source for discussion... So what reporters do you consider credible? Who do you think have inside access? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: A credible source is a rumour based on actual discussions with other parties. A "thought" is not a rumour. Thinking that a GM may be calling the Canucks about Miller is not a rumour. It's a thought. We all have thoughts. Until those thoughts are backed up by some type of evidence that a discussion has taken place, then it is only a thought and not an actual source for discussion... What kind of evidence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, stawns said: So what reporters do you consider credible? Who do you think have inside access? I never said Friedman wasn't credible. What I said was his "thoughts" about Miller are not rumours, they are just thoughts, like making up a trade proposal. If he actually had a rumour on a Miller trade, I would be all ears. He doesn't though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, stawns said: What kind of evidence? If you don't know the difference between a thought and an actual rumour with a source or some evidence to back it up, then I can't really help you... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: I never said Friedman wasn't credible. What I said was his "thoughts" about Miller are not rumours, they are just thoughts, like making up a trade proposal. If he actually had a rumour on a Miller trade, I would be all ears. He doesn't though... I don't understand your take on this, teams are in fact calling and asking about JT, as they should that is part of their job. How serious talks have got and who could be involved is irrelevant at this point but there is enough chatter discussion is worth it. Don't like it, don't go in the thread. This isn't rocket surgery. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: If you don't know the difference between a thought and an actual rumour with a source or some evidence to back it up, then I can't really help you... What kind of evidence though? When EF says he thinks GM's are contacting Van about whether Miller is available, isn't that what a rumour is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Baratheon said: And that he believes they have phoned OUR GM in regards to this. It was newsworthy enough to be on HNIC lol. Or you missed that possibly? idk He said he thinks they called inquiring. He was not firm on that. There is a big difference. He never said calls were in fact made. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: I don't understand your take on this, teams are in fact calling and asking about JT, as they should that is part of their job. How serious talks have got and who could be involved is irrelevant at this point but there is enough chatter discussion is worth it. Don't like it, don't go in the thread. This isn't rocket surgery. Friedman just posted a trade rumour, it wasn't a thought. So there you go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, stawns said: What kind of evidence though? When EF says he thinks GM's are contacting Van about whether Miller is available, isn't that what a rumour is? Friedman just posted a trade rumour. I suggest you go into that thread for some actual evidence... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Look. Y'all can calm down. You're splitting hairs and arguing about the most petty garbage. Freidman NEEDS his 32 thoughts. Most of his rumours are unsubstantiated but have to be there. He will ask any number of NHL execs or agents if they've heard of anything and will casually pass it on. Her will use the biggest ticket names on NHL teams and create scenarios regarding trade availability because he has to and is no different than us. Case in point. Freid asks NHL 3rd tier exec if there's anything interesting going on. NHL exec will say we have player X under contract but extension Y is not going well. Freid will then ask if anyone has enquired about said player and N3rd tier exec will say no or yes. Depending on the answer Freid will then go talk to player X's agent and agent will make some sort of nothing comment or will say something in passing and Freid will then say the following I have heard some rumblings that Player X on team Y is not having successful negotiations for a contract extension. Agent Z was very non commital but it makes you wonder if [insert team here with need for player X] might have interest. That's it, that is all. He HAS to do this because without it he has no show. He has contacts we don't but he HAS to create a narrative of some sort because in a day and age of social media anything less than constant information is a failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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