Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Dazzle said: Why does it have to be about political left or right? It's not about that at all. Furthermore, by summarizing people in spectrums, you run into situations where people on the left could very much agree with you, but you'll assume they'll hold the same notions because YOU put them there. becuase their is no happy medium Dazzle... i could offend someone for using the word "woke: or "pc" or "SJW" the fact that you are getting upset kinda proves how ridiculous this is... PC thinking is widely accepted as left leaning.. if your upset with that fine... if others are upset with that fine... the fact is i cannot explain my point without offending someone is the issue here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: And using the word "gay" as a synonym for "bad" used to be normal when I was growing up. Blaming women for being raped was the norm when I was growing up. What's your point? Society changes. Get over it already. Some people are just mad because they now have fewer socially acceptable words available for them to express their hate. I'm not targeting you specifically, Hef, but people in general who have this mindset. Especially the "I was just joking" crowd. They can all fck right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: imagine you are a ref and you are called cocksucker. You would consider this as a compliment, surely. Great. I think you ethic values need to change. Lmao are u kidding me? Thats not even a homophobic slur, have you ever worked on a construction site ? Hell .. in Portugal and Brazil one of the most common ways to greet a friend is saying Eh caralho which literally is a slang term for hey cock sucker This world is so incredibly soft. And it needs thicker skin Edited February 17, 2023 by BlakeQuinnAndEggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Well, if we are going to generalize, a lot of people on the right say there is fascism and a violation of the freedom of speech. What do you say about that? well if you want to discuss that we i will gladly take it up with you in private or if you prefer you can create a thread that asks for this discussion... but to briefly discuss it it i will say this... banning words that may or may not offend people depending on how liberal or conservative you are... and then acting out with shame hate and violence towards the use of some words could be considered as fascist... but im not accusing anyone here of fascism... but they exist on both sides of the spectrum I will fight for the word ****sucker and anyone that tries to stop me is violating my freedom to use it ... I often use it when i make a "screwup" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: becuase their is no happy medium Dazzle... i could offend someone for using the word "woke: or "pc" or "SJW" the fact that you are getting upset kinda proves how ridiculous this is... PC thinking is widely accepted as left leaning.. if your upset with that fine... if others are upset with that fine... the fact is i cannot explain my point without offending someone is the issue here This is the problem with your assumptions. I'm not upset at all. I'm really not. I actually understand your point, even agree with the fact that I don't think it's homophobic. Yet I'm easily not someone on the right. That's how stupid your point is about "left" and "right". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 lol, so sensitive those swiss. I don't even relate that word to homosexuality. I relate it more to those that are in someone's pocket just like a** licker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: well if you want to discuss that we i will gladly take it up with you in private or if you prefer you can create a thread that asks for this discussion... but to briefly discuss it it i will say this... banning words that may or may not offend people depending on how liberal or conservative you are... and then acting out with shame hate and violence towards the use of some words could be considered as fascist... but im not accusing anyone here of fascism... but they exist on both sides of the spectrum I will fight for the word ****sucker and anyone that tries to stop me is violating my freedom to use it ... I often use it when i make a "screwup" What a silly idea. Of course you have the freedom to say or do whatever you want. That does not mean there is a freedom from consequences. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: Lmao are u kidding me? Thats not even a homophobic slur, have you ever worked on a construction site ? Hell .. in Portugal and Brazil one of the most common ways to greet a friend is saying Eh caralho which literally is a slang term for hey cock sucker This world is so incredibly soft. And it needs thicker skin the fact that many have not experienced a very real form male friendship is very evident here... Throwing insults at each other and not being offended and throwing one back is a test in almost any trade... if you fail the test the insults will become more and more severe until you quit or you lighten up... they arent actually insulting you, they dont mean those words it is a test to see how well you can perform without losing your cool... losing your cool leads to incidents injuries and fights... FACTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Dazzle said: What a silly idea. Of course you have the freedom to say or do whatever you want. That does not mean there is a freedom from consequences. Your right no one did! anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: lol, so sensitive those swiss. I don't even relate that word to homosexuality. I relate it more to those that are in someone's pocket just like a** licker. i know right... the term ****sucker has so many different meanings and IMO is not used as a homophobic slur.. in my experiences when someone uses a slur they use different words... and commonly in trades homophobic slurs dont even happen... i have heard bigotry in trades and its very suggestive stuff... if crawford did this on a job site alot of people would be offended by his actions, not because of the words but how angry he got. he would probably be made fun of for stuttering, that maybe he had some anger issues and would have a rough lunch break... where he would either defend himself and be pushed harder back or laugh it off and then it would be forgotten Edited February 17, 2023 by Bad_BOI_pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, buddhahoodlum said: Blaming women for being raped was the norm when I was growing up. What's your point? Society changes. Get over it already. Some people are just mad because they now have fewer socially acceptable words available for them to express their hate. I'm not targeting you specifically, Hef, but people in general who have this mindset. Especially the "I was just joking" crowd. They can all fck right off. You and I are in complete agreement and I was using it as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Those offended should never go near a financial trading floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: it used to mean happy or joyful in the 17 and 18th century.... by the 19th century it also became slang for a woman prostitute and a gay man was someone that had relations with these women. and if you said me and that lady were gay together you meant you had sex... around the 30's it started to also mean if you called a man gay it meant they had sex with not only prostitutes but also men... by 1955 it meant homosexual males and women prostitutes... by the 70's it no longer meant female prostitute and also included female homosexuals... the fact that you use this as some kind of gotcha moment is funny... people in the 70's 80's or 90's didn't understand why someone would be gay... they thought how stupid it must be to grow up without ever bearing many many children... because success meant having a large family... of course people thought it was stupid at the time.... some people still have those conservative views today... that success is measured by how many children you can bring into this world... but much less people think that now and understand why someone would be gay... so it has naturally fallen out of favor... the fact that anyone can be a ****sucker takes alot out of the merit that this is used as a word to slur in a homophobic manner.... many people will just curse and use that word in response to bad news... theyll just say ****sucker and regain their composure... in this fashion the intent is to show displeasure, and i don't know how you would construe this use with homophobia either. The left needs to stop banning words... it doesn't work... new words will take its place... How old are you? I was around in the 70's 80's and of course the 90's. Saying that we didn't understand why someone would be gay is wrong. Low IQ homophobes perhaps didn't understand. People hid the fact they were gay in the 70's for fear of getting the snot beat out of them by homophobic idiots. Things started to change more in the 80's. Lots of gay people at Uvic in the early 80's. We never gave a crap if you were gay or not. But then again University had a higher percentage of open minded young people. 90's was very accepting as I remember. Unfortunately some attudes are stuck and never evolved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Did he call him a bundle of sticks? not gonna lie...i had to look that one up to get the reference. well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: the fact that many have not experienced a very real form male friendship is very evident here... Throwing insults at each other and not being offended and throwing one back is a test in almost any trade... if you fail the test the insults will become more and more severe until you quit or you lighten up... they arent actually insulting you, they dont mean those words it is a test to see how well you can perform without losing your cool... losing your cool leads to incidents injuries and fights... FACTS It's not just on jobsites.... its the same at the rink.... hell listen to spitting chiclets ... its called chirping and I'm glad that you have some common sense unlike many here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 OK folks that are upset... obviously we need a list of all the words we are not allowed to use anymore... no one wants to be cancelled because we dont know the rules.... what offends everyone so we san just get this over and done with? i think a word that is offensive to me is cancer... when people use it to trivialize things that are very common and it just grinds my gears.... can we cancel this word? I also hate the word patriarchal, Patriarch... the fact that men are being demonized for masculine behavior and also being scrutinized for also being too sensitive is confusing I also want white to be banned too... too many people use it demonize people born with this color skin without their choice and its a very popular thing to do.... i want to be called translucent from now on... only 8.1 billion more inputs and finally we can have our perfect society back... obvious sarcasm but i am offended when i hear these terms used so loosely... but cancelling them on a side note... i would gladly agree with many people here in saying that crawford is a angry man... and the way he acted out in anger was in poor choice and if he were to be punished or at least made take some anger management courses and therapy i would welcome and support this outcome... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Crow doesn't have the balls to apologize for insulting the refs. I get that in the heat of the moment he got carried away by his emotions but at the same time you have to have the courage to approach the ref after the game and apologize for your awful behavior. Speaks volumes about crows personality. a quality person would have approached the refs and would have apologized. Unfortunately crow didn't show that kind of courage. If I were the GM of the ZSC Lions I would have fired him on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Let's do our best to keep this discussion away from politics everyone. Stick closer to the topic at hand. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: How old are you? I was around in the 70's 80's and of course the 90's. Saying that we didn't understand why someone would be gay is wrong. Low IQ homophobes perhaps didn't understand. People hid the fact they were gay in the 70's for fear of getting the snot beat out of them by homophobic idiots. Things started to change more in the 80's. Lots of gay people at Uvic in the early 80's. We never gave a crap if you were gay or not. But then again University had a higher percentage of open minded young people. 90's was very accepting as I remember. Unfortunately some attudes are stuck and never evolved. young kids popularized this term presumably the first that popularized it grew up in traditional and potentially even bigotted households... because any other use would not make any sense... this is the logical answer when i said this i was specifically speaking about traditional conservative families and how they might be even preached about homosexuality in their own homes,churches etc... during these times... they would be taught about traditional ways of lives and how other views would be considered "wrong", "sinful" or "immoral" and some kid thought he was funny by calling something gay and some kids laughed and the other kids said it too because they also maybe thought a similar way or at least were too scared to challenge their peers who used it. I know im right... there is no other logical answer to the popularization of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I think Bad_BOI_pete was just looking for an excuse to attack homosexuality, and with the Provorov thread locked (thanks in part to him), now he has a new hockey-related thing to rile everybody up about. Go back to your own echo chamber and keep up the good fight somewhere else. Most of what you write is surprisingly incomprehensible. It's like if a TrumpChatGPT was writing your posts or something. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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